samj1912: I think we can all agree that if the repository is broken such that you can't even start picard, you can go ahead and just push the reverted commit
2017-03-08 06738, 2017
samj1912
Mineo: fixed :)
2017-03-08 06752, 2017
samj1912
sorry
2017-03-08 06711, 2017
samj1912
my mistake
2017-03-08 06726, 2017
samj1912
will definitely be more careful in the future
2017-03-08 06749, 2017
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travis-ci
metabrainz/picard#2112 (revert-647-dndcover - 538cdcc : Sambhav Kothari): The build passed.
what .. "minutes"?? minutes are time measurement.. what?
2017-03-08 06758, 2017
CatQuest
"These particular minutes have been approved at its following board meeting,"
2017-03-08 06758, 2017
CatQuest
makes NO sence
2017-03-08 06701, 2017
Leftmost
Minutes are also the record of a meeting.
2017-03-08 06709, 2017
CatQuest
seriously?
2017-03-08 06713, 2017
Leftmost
Yes.
2017-03-08 06715, 2017
CatQuest
arg
2017-03-08 06718, 2017
CatQuest
english is stupid
2017-03-08 06731, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
I think the whole thing is called "meeting minutes" but it confused me too
2017-03-08 06754, 2017
CatQuest
what is wrong wit saying "MetaBrainz Foundation Board Meeting Notes 2016-09-15" instead ffs?
2017-03-08 06728, 2017
Leftmost
Because "minutes" is the term typically used.
2017-03-08 06749, 2017
CatQuest
that's dumb. an unintuitive. and .. uh never seen that before
2017-03-08 06754, 2017
CatQuest
and.. dumb
2017-03-08 06710, 2017
CatQuest
sorry. i havent eated at all today so it's not like i cna brain very well either
2017-03-08 06750, 2017
CatQuest
just.. seems like a really unnecessary confusing temrinology for no reason but to confuse
2017-03-08 06754, 2017
CatQuest
term*
2017-03-08 06711, 2017
CatQuest
and be annoyng
2017-03-08 06722, 2017
CatQuest
and sounds posh
2017-03-08 06722, 2017
CatQuest
or something
2017-03-08 06725, 2017
Leftmost
Language overloads terminology. It happens in Norwegian too, I can guarantee it.
2017-03-08 06701, 2017
CatQuest
ffs we try not to be annoyingly obtuse on purpose though,
2017-03-08 06710, 2017
CatQuest
>/
2017-03-08 06755, 2017
Leftmost
That's not a fair assessment of the situation.
2017-03-08 06758, 2017
loominol has quit
2017-03-08 06727, 2017
CatQuest
to be fair, I'm not trying to be fair
2017-03-08 06733, 2017
zas
minutes exist in french too, for example, "les minutes d'un procès" = report of a trial
2017-03-08 06747, 2017
CatQuest
yes, but french is like.. french :P
2017-03-08 06722, 2017
CatQuest
we *definitely* don'tsay "møte minutter" and mean "written report or notes about meeting or what happened in the meeting
2017-03-08 06751, 2017
CatQuest
or is this one of those things where it makes sense aurally
2017-03-08 06708, 2017
CatQuest
it's minute as in small not minute as in time
2017-03-08 06720, 2017
CatQuest
they are pronounced differently
2017-03-08 06722, 2017
Leftmost
It's pronounced as the unit of time.
2017-03-08 06734, 2017
CatQuest shakes head inhouse style
2017-03-08 06739, 2017
CatQuest
that's even more dumb
2017-03-08 06750, 2017
CatQuest
why minutes?
2017-03-08 06754, 2017
CatQuest
why not hours or seconds?
2017-03-08 06755, 2017
CatQuest
wtf
2017-03-08 06700, 2017
CallerNo6
minutia
2017-03-08 06715, 2017
kepstin
I wouldn't be surprised if it was borrowed from the french, tbh
2017-03-08 06721, 2017
CatQuest
say what? CallerNo6 can ecxplain this insanity?
2017-03-08 06748, 2017
CatQuest
it's almost like everything confusing and stupid about english is often borrowed fro mfrench, honestly :P
2017-03-08 06758, 2017
CatQuest
island vs iland
2017-03-08 06700, 2017
Leftmost
You're making a much bigger deal of a word having two senses than is really necessary.
2017-03-08 06749, 2017
kepstin
looks like "minutes" meaning "record of proceedings" maybe came from Latin minuta scriptura "rough notes," literally "small writing;"
2017-03-08 06732, 2017
CatQuest
Leftmost: I am tired, I haven't eaten, I am trying to read a set of Notes, where efor some reason in my addeled state it's proven (for the first time i experience in my 35 yr old life, no less) to learn that some word that means some thing completely unrelated to this, als omeans "notes" like actual physical notes or the action as taking notes and that it is *common* to use that terminology instead of something a little more non-ambiguious
2017-03-08 06732, 2017
CatQuest
and i'm not angry, shouting, or trying ot be. I am incredulus as to why english does this crap so many times and I *still* didn't know about it
2017-03-08 06756, 2017
CatQuest
kepstin: aha! so it *does* come from "minute as in small"
2017-03-08 06707, 2017
CatQuest
well it's much better now with some terminology of it
2017-03-08 06720, 2017
CatQuest
some context
2017-03-08 06755, 2017
CatQuest
not saying norwegians aren't stupid
2017-03-08 06755, 2017
CatQuest
heavens know we are. we lit have two different written languages cause.. well won't go into that because WE dumb basiclaly
2017-03-08 06714, 2017
Leftmost
Because language is a big, complex thing and literally every natural language in existence has done something like this hundreds of times over.
2017-03-08 06734, 2017
CatQuest
oh but also: what does "fam" mean? like not familiy?
2017-03-08 06734, 2017
CatQuest
like "thanks fam" ?
2017-03-08 06736, 2017
zas
minute (for writings) comes from latin "minuta scriptura" = small writing, according to Littré dictionnary, because those kind of notes were usually written with small characters
2017-03-08 06737, 2017
kepstin
I suspect most english speakers have no idea about why they're called "minutes" and probably associate it with time
2017-03-08 06758, 2017
kepstin
it's just a noun that means "meeting notes" :/
2017-03-08 06717, 2017
CatQuest
kepstin: yea, my consternation is basically "why do we chose to use this termiinology when there re other, more obvious less confusing ones"
2017-03-08 06728, 2017
Leftmost
To be fair, the unit of time undoubtedly also comes from a use of the Latin "small".
2017-03-08 06745, 2017
Leftmost
CatQuest, because it's precise and, for the vast majority of native speakers, unambiguous.
2017-03-08 06756, 2017
zas
in french "minutes" are related to legal acts only
2017-03-08 06705, 2017
CatQuest
it's actually odd that minutes aren't called primuta. as secnods are.. well fro msecunda? :P
2017-03-08 06719, 2017
zas
at least now, but in the past they were used for "notes"
2017-03-08 06757, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
CatQuest: minuta is also a thing in latin :P
2017-03-08 06706, 2017
CatQuest
Leftmost: and I am allowed to think that is absolutel rubbish :)
2017-03-08 06710, 2017
CallerNo6
It's not an obscure term in English. I'd rather change "release group". :-P
2017-03-08 06723, 2017
CatQuest
CallerNo6: srsly?
2017-03-08 06725, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
so even the Romans had minuta for minute and minutus for small but in their case the different genders made it quite clear
2017-03-08 06736, 2017
CatQuest
gtfo, i thought I was almost fluent in english.
2017-03-08 06759, 2017
CallerNo6
CatQuest, well, it's not an everday word unless you go to meetings.
2017-03-08 06722, 2017
kepstin
CatQuest: very standard for any business or other setting with procedural meetings to have minutes. outside of business, it's sometimes seen in structured clubs, church groups, etc.
2017-03-08 06743, 2017
CatQuest
CallerNo6: ah, see thqat's where it is, i try to avoid those as much as possible
2017-03-08 06748, 2017
CatQuest
wretched things
2017-03-08 06753, 2017
CallerNo6
totally
2017-03-08 06706, 2017
CatQuest high fives CallerNo6
2017-03-08 06708, 2017
Leftmost
I grew up attending meetings of the Montana Association of the Blind, where each meeting began with a summary of the minutes from the previous.
2017-03-08 06716, 2017
CatQuest
aha
2017-03-08 06731, 2017
CatQuest loathes meetings
2017-03-08 06723, 2017
CatQuest
but well usually there where occasions of "we nee to inform you of how impossible yo uare as a human being so there are going to be sanctions" or just "you're in trouble, lets talk for 2 hours about why"
2017-03-08 06732, 2017
CatQuest
they were*
2017-03-08 06741, 2017
gcilou
CatQuest: yes, fam = family
2017-03-08 06742, 2017
alastairp
loujine: can you give me an example of a full GET request which fails to get a query on the AB endpoint
2017-03-08 06714, 2017
CatQuest
Leo_Verto[m]: I was jokingly referring to the "primula" and "sekunda"
2017-03-08 06720, 2017
CatQuest
first and second
2017-03-08 06727, 2017
CatQuest
it's not important
2017-03-08 06736, 2017
CatQuest
gcilou: ahh. \o/
2017-03-08 06742, 2017
CatQuest
what does it come for mtho, i mean, wtf?
2017-03-08 06744, 2017
CatQuest
:D
2017-03-08 06739, 2017
CatQuest
never mind i must go to bed beore i die
2017-03-08 06749, 2017
CatQuest
i shouldn't have read a stephen king book all day
2017-03-08 06752, 2017
gcilou
ok natta :)
2017-03-08 06703, 2017
CatQuest
that man is much better in small doses really
2017-03-08 06703, 2017
gcilou
but fam is just slang
2017-03-08 06708, 2017
CatQuest
now i'm al ljacked up
2017-03-08 06718, 2017
CatQuest
ah!
2017-03-08 06719, 2017
CatQuest
Y?
2017-03-08 06749, 2017
CatQuest
never mind I'm stupid right now
2017-03-08 06702, 2017
CatQuest
I don't think my brain can even.. no grape sugar
2017-03-08 06709, 2017
gcilou
it's just a casual way of saying family. In my usage, I call my friend group my "fam" to say they're like family to me
2017-03-08 06712, 2017
CatQuest
natta <3
2017-03-08 06731, 2017
CatQuest
gcilou: aww we are fam to you? thats hella awesome. you are awesome
