CallerNo6: only client I know of so far is the android 'simple last.fm scrobbler' app
2017-03-25 08430, 2017
kepstin
but if you're also using other apps and importing from last.fm, that'll probably give you dups :/
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github
[listenbrainz-server] paramsingh opened pull request #155: LB-143: Make alpha_importer work for users with spaces in their ids (master...alpha-importer/split-bug) https://git.io/vSkM2
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alastairp
kepstin: we've fixed that!
2017-03-25 08405, 2017
alastairp
CallerNo6: no, no dedicated client. Our hope is that open source clients will add support to send to us
2017-03-25 08418, 2017
alastairp
we're still working out how to hack other clients to send as well
2017-03-25 08414, 2017
samj1912
zas: ping
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CatQuest
alastairp: my only wish is that some sort of ppc client will surface :8
2017-03-25 08441, 2017
CatQuest
(although I know its unlikly :C)
2017-03-25 08429, 2017
zas
samj1912: pong
2017-03-25 08427, 2017
samj1912
zas trying to port to py3
2017-03-25 08437, 2017
samj1912
Facing some problems with astrcmp
2017-03-25 08432, 2017
samj1912
I have 0 experience with cython :P
2017-03-25 08444, 2017
samj1912
any idea who wrote it?
2017-03-25 08438, 2017
zas
luks perhaps
2017-03-25 08420, 2017
Mineo
you could just tell us what problems you're having :)
STYLE-752: Allow indicating the language(s) of a release's liner notes
2017-03-25 08428, 2017
reosarevok
That's still changing soon, right? :)
2017-03-25 08440, 2017
reosarevok doesn't want to change it too soon
2017-03-25 08428, 2017
reosarevok
Oh, whatevs, renaming it already, because some MBS tickets about attributes should be moved to style anyway and marked with it
2017-03-25 08425, 2017
reosarevok wonders if it would make sense to convert barcodes to be stored as release attributes (since that would automatically solve the issue with not being able to add multiple ones)
2017-03-25 08434, 2017
CatQuest
[11:48] * reosarevok wishes the BBC fucking gave people some useful info before sending them our way so that they would stop making artists hate us
2017-03-25 08435, 2017
CatQuest
[11:48] <reosarevok> ruaok: is it too early to complain to them again?
2017-03-25 08435, 2017
CatQuest
we definitely should nip that in the butt as soon as possible, we *don't* want artists ot hate us
2017-03-25 08435, 2017
CatQuest
they are right though we _are_ *literally* not made for them. we're made for their data
If people know of more stuff that sounds like it should be an entity attribute, please consider moving it to style and setting it as a dependency of https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-8393
2017-03-25 08401, 2017
BrainzBot
MBS-8393: Extend dynamic attributes to all entities
2017-03-25 08404, 2017
CatQuest
reosarevok: short explaation what dynamic attributes are?
ok.. how are different than things like "ipi" code?
2017-03-25 08436, 2017
reosarevok
They aren't necessarily really
2017-03-25 08442, 2017
CatQuest
artist has ipi codes and isni codes
2017-03-25 08453, 2017
reosarevok
For identifiers like that, it's a bit like having your own rel vs. otherdbs
2017-03-25 08405, 2017
CatQuest
recording has isrc
2017-03-25 08419, 2017
CatQuest
lable has.. label code?
2017-03-25 08419, 2017
reosarevok
Work has ISWC, despite having work attributes, because we consider that important enough
2017-03-25 08437, 2017
CatQuest
yea.. i'm.. confused by differences
2017-03-25 08441, 2017
reosarevok
tbh, I'm not sure I'd consider ISNI important enough not to move it to an attribute, but
2017-03-25 08459, 2017
CatQuest
but I mean, what is the difference "database" wize? scema whise?
2017-03-25 08412, 2017
CatQuest
they are ll bits of text that has a form you can fill in with an identifier
2017-03-25 08418, 2017
reosarevok
No, not all
2017-03-25 08423, 2017
CatQuest
some might have explicit format needs
2017-03-25 08457, 2017
CatQuest
so you can't have a "date" that looks like "WRRKGLUG" for instance
2017-03-25 08458, 2017
reosarevok
I mean, we already have "musical key" as an attribute for works, which isn't really an identifier
2017-03-25 08419, 2017
CatQuest
ok sorry, I'm unclear the use of "identifier" I mean.. "fill in form data"
2017-03-25 08421, 2017
reosarevok
And we have requests like BPM for recordings
2017-03-25 08426, 2017
reosarevok
Oh, yeah
2017-03-25 08450, 2017
reosarevok
So, I'd say they're data that might be interesting to store, but it doesn't apply generally enough to deserve being in the main form
2017-03-25 08403, 2017
CatQuest
oh ok
2017-03-25 08418, 2017
reosarevok
(for example, ISWC is a global work identifier, so it's in the main work form. JASRAC or whatever applies to only a subset of works, so it isn't)
2017-03-25 08446, 2017
reosarevok
(I guess key theoretically applies widely, but it's only actually *used* generally for classical, so attribute)
2017-03-25 08451, 2017
CatQuest
but that logic will vary from thing to thing. I mean some classical stuff will have this very detailed list of various data, but "just some kids writing a diff song over an old melody" is porbably a differnt scenario
2017-03-25 08433, 2017
reosarevok
Sure :) That's why we put it in attributes, where you can just choose if you want to add it or not. So I could have a release or work or something with 10 extra attributes, and one with one, or none
2017-03-25 08454, 2017
CatQuest
I mean I've added a few works but I've never come across iswc, (not been looking either tho, ffiw)
2017-03-25 08441, 2017
CatQuest
but what I mean is. how are "dynamic" attributes different than various forms that we have for say, artist?
it has "name" "ipi codes" "isni codes", the name is a different thing than the codes... it can (for now anyway) have only one and must have one, ipi and isni are unmandatory and you cna add several. as afiak yo ucna the "dynamic" attributes
2017-03-25 08405, 2017
CatQuest
so if we add "dynamic" atributes ot an artist (not something I'm against, mind, the more stuff we can add, the better) but how is it "dynamic"? that it's in a drop down list? :P
2017-03-25 08450, 2017
CatQuest
or do you mean that these code will be added (together with maybe other things) to the artists "dynamic" attributes?
2017-03-25 08422, 2017
reosarevok
I think the reason it was originally called "dynamic" is that they can be changed and added to more easily (they don't need schema changes to add new ones, just style decisions=)
2017-03-25 08424, 2017
CatQuest
that wil ldefinitly look better and be more ubersichlich
2017-03-25 08443, 2017
CatQuest
well in that case I +100 this idea then!
2017-03-25 08401, 2017
reosarevok
As you can see, we don't actually use the "dynamic" word anywhere in the work form, we just have "EntityName Attributes" :)
2017-03-25 08416, 2017
reosarevok
So I'd expect this to be the same everywhere
2017-03-25 08419, 2017
CatQuest
nd +10 to moving other such atributes to the "dynmi" ones
2017-03-25 08424, 2017
CatQuest
+
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CatQuest
(cna i vote twice?)
2017-03-25 08432, 2017
CatQuest
:P
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reosarevok
haha
2017-03-25 08446, 2017
reosarevok
Well, that'd need to be done later as a separate ticket, if desired
2017-03-25 08401, 2017
CatQuest
the two voting? :P
2017-03-25 08413, 2017
reosarevok
Moving existing stuff to the attribute list
2017-03-25 08415, 2017
reosarevok
Although I do think it might make sense to move stuff like ISNI
