Wooo, roaming fees in the EU are going away June 15. Calls everywhere are a max 3.2 cents and SMS max 1 cent. data is capped at max €7.70GB, which is quite cheap and goes down to €2.50 in 2022.
2017-04-06 09613, 2017
ruaok
nice.
2017-04-06 09621, 2017
ruaok
oh, I see. these are not consumer rates, but rates that telcos can charge to each other.
2017-04-06 09629, 2017
samj1912
ruaok, we recently had a telecom revolution too
2017-04-06 09643, 2017
samj1912
Unlimited local and std calls for 4 euros
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ruaok
oh yeah. did that lead to lower consumer prices?
2017-04-06 09652, 2017
ruaok
nice
2017-04-06 09600, 2017
samj1912
That also includes 1gb 4g data per day
2017-04-06 09642, 2017
samj1912
I think we have the cheapest mobile prices in the world right now :p
2017-04-06 09656, 2017
samj1912
A company basically pulled a kingsmen
2017-04-06 09650, 2017
samj1912
Which lead to approx 30 times cheaper data :p
2017-04-06 09659, 2017
samj1912
*led
2017-04-06 09647, 2017
ruaok
anyone have any thoughts on Ultimate Guitar?
2017-04-06 09641, 2017
justharshal
iliekcomputers: Hey, about that Google play music plan. I was excited too. But it has no english music. Only regional. That's a disappointment.
2017-04-06 09637, 2017
reosarevok
iliekcomputers: I use VLC for the small amount of music I have ripped, because library players are just full of features I don't need (I mostly stream though)
2017-04-06 09608, 2017
justharshal
iliekcomputers: I'd recommend Apple Music, the Android app was recently updated and it's only 60 Rs/month if you're a student. And nobody can beat Apple's catalogue.
2017-04-06 09657, 2017
reosarevok
I used to use Amarok years ago but I got tired of the whole thing
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iliekcomputers
justharshal: huh, did not know that apple music was that cheap
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hibiscuskazeneko
iliekcomputers: It's not cheap stateside. It's something like $20/month, from what I remember.
2017-04-06 09628, 2017
justharshal
hibiscuskazeneko: It's 10$ in US. That's not exactly costly on an american salary.
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ruaok
Leftmost: we have enough money for whiskey and chocolate.
justharshal: That can be extraordinarily expensive depending on where in the US you live.
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Leftmost
Mmm, beer.
2017-04-06 09610, 2017
justharshal
hibiscuskazeneko: That is true. So even in india, most people can't afford 120 Rs/month. But i think that's kind of the point. It needs to feel premium.
2017-04-06 09617, 2017
hibiscuskazeneko
ruaok: You guys gonna be serving Jäger bombs?
2017-04-06 09627, 2017
ruaok
What, at the summit? Most people don't drink.
2017-04-06 09642, 2017
hibiscuskazeneko
I only brought that up because you mentioned whiskey and beer
2017-04-06 09657, 2017
ruaok
Yeah... A gelato hangover is the most likely thing we're going to suffer.
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hibiscuskazeneko
Brain freeze?
2017-04-06 09635, 2017
ruaok
Just too much.
2017-04-06 09613, 2017
ruaok
You should see the look on the staff's faces when we walk in for the 8th time in three days.
2017-04-06 09646, 2017
CallerNo6
Like they've never seen gelato enthusiasts before?
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CatQuest
lol 100 AUD
2017-04-06 09624, 2017
ruaok
CallerNo6: a group of 15 enthusiasts who DDOS their shop for half an hour?
2017-04-06 09610, 2017
CallerNo6
^ this is the future liberals want
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hibiscuskazeneko
I wouldn't call it a DDoS if they're rolling in dough because of all the business you give them.
2017-04-06 09637, 2017
CatQuest
Freso: did you touch the "stay logged in time coolie settigs when you updated the OTHER-290 ? since i've had to log-in several tiems since then and usually this isn't necessary at all for months and months :/
[listenbrainz-server] paramsingh opened pull request #162: [WIP] Test influx with large data (master...influx-test) https://git.io/vSaaT
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samj1912
Sophist-UK: no idea
2017-04-06 09643, 2017
samj1912
also, the py3 port is working now, you can try it and update your dev env for py3/pyqt5 :)
2017-04-06 09614, 2017
ruaok
>My computer was being a little too slow to send 1B listens, I don't think that is a problem with the code. 1B HTTP requests to a local LB instance seemed to be a bit too much to handle for my computer.
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ruaok
lol. :)
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iliekcomputers
ha
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ruaok
we'll see what the beta server thinks of it.
2017-04-06 09624, 2017
ruaok
64GB if ram and SSDs should do the trick.
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ruaok
if not we've identified a problem
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Freso
CatQuest: I don't think there is such a setting, no.
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bitmap
I'm frequently logged out of jira, but that's since before those changes
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bitmap
in fact, I'm logged out right now
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ruaok
me too
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Gentlecat
might be something wrong with the settings
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Gentlecat
we adjusted them a couple of months ago to make the timeout much longer, maybe something else is wrong
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Gentlecat
all cookies I have expire in 2018
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samj1912
zas: ping
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bitmap
I have a 'seraph.rememberme.cookie' that expires in 2018
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bitmap
all the other cookies expire 'When the browsing session ends' according to chrome
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Gentlecat
doesn't seem like removing those affects anything
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Gentlecat
I stay logged in as long as 'seraph.rememberme.cookie' is there
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bitmap
I'll see what happens to that next time I'm logged out
Sophist-UK: When will the MBS counterpart be needed?
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Sophist-UK
I will add support as and when the MBS bit is added - subject to review, this is ready for merge now.
2017-04-06 09612, 2017
yvanzo
Sorry, it is still unclear to me, you will add support for PICARD or/and MBS?
2017-04-06 09632, 2017
yvanzo
I can probably handle the MBS part if needed, just wanted to know if it would be useful for next server update or not.
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bitmap
what exactly is needed?
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bitmap
there is something about "Work is part no x of y parts" mentioned, and then later something about containing works
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yvanzo
I guess it is just the total number of relationships of given type to an entity
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bitmap
ah
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bitmap
well, that sounds useful for orderable types, not sure it's useful for all types
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zas
Sophist-UK: i will review once i'm done with py3/qt5 testing
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yvanzo
I thought about orderable types as well, but it would still make sense for “member of” rel.
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bitmap
hmm, do you have an example?
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bitmap
when you would need the total number of members, but not what the members are
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yvanzo
Whenever you like :)
2017-04-06 09633, 2017
bitmap
not very convincing :P
2017-04-06 09656, 2017
yvanzo
agreed :D
2017-04-06 09632, 2017
bitmap
I'm only worried it'll make our ws slower for info that people don't need
2017-04-06 09620, 2017
yvanzo
me too, would it be worth to make materialized views for this?
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bitmap
hmm, probably not
2017-04-06 09617, 2017
bitmap
I'm fine with outputting it for orderable types, I was just wondering about other types
2017-04-06 09645, 2017
yvanzo
Ok, no worry then, I just incidentally missed to add the “orderable” word at first.
2017-04-06 09610, 2017
Sophist-UK
yvanzo: No - I am only doing the Picard bit - which now works except for providing the total number of parts. As and when the MS bit is developed and merged, I will add support for total number of parts as a separate PR.
2017-04-06 09602, 2017
yvanzo
Sophist-UK: Ok, that makes two PRs from you to Picard, zero to MBS. Got it, thanks :)
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yvanzo
(and good night)
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Sophist-UK
bitmap: There is nothing in the XML for work-is-part-of-work relationship which says how many parts are in the higher-level work. So, when MBS WS generates XML for these relationships i.e. type="parts", then next to the ordering-key tag we need a total-keys tag so we can say it is "part 3 of 5".
2017-04-06 09625, 2017
Sophist-UK
We only need it for orderable types.
2017-04-06 09629, 2017
bitmap
understood
2017-04-06 09644, 2017
Sophist-UK
Because ordering-key is only for orderable types.
2017-04-06 09626, 2017
Sophist-UK
Where work-x is part of work-y and work-y is part of work-z, XML only includes the relationship for work-x is part of work-y, however I am not suggesting that we include the nested relationship because of performance issues. But it would be nice to have a /ws/2/work/mbid?inc-all-parts which gives the whole iterative set of relationships for when a plugin makes further calls to get the
2017-04-06 09626, 2017
Sophist-UK
missing info.
2017-04-06 09603, 2017
Sophist-UK
And thanks yvanzo/bitmap.
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Sophist-UK
I am off to bed too now.
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Sophist-UK
Goodnight all.
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github
[picard] mineo opened pull request #681: PICARD-1056: Don't crash when opening file info dialogs (master...picard-1056) https://git.io/vSVOe
