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      • bitmap
        we probably don't need a standalone pool at this point, i.e. it could be coded into LB
      • 2017-04-18 10811, 2017

      • ruaok
        k
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      • bitmap
        but I imagine it's possible to write a standalone pool that returns channel #s, I see a few examples on github
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      • ruaok
        got link?
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      • bitmap
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      • bitmap
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      • ruaok
        and flask-pika...
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      • agentsim
        Sophist-UK: I just saw your replies to my question in chat history. Yes, I think the second URL should work, since both URLs are fetching release info. And the purpose of recording= in the second URL is for handling cases where there are more than 50 releases associated to a recording
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      • bitmap
        pika-pool seems to be actual connection pooling
      • 2017-04-18 10840, 2017

      • bitmap
        but I guess you really only need one connection per LB process
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      • bitmap
        so maybe not helpful
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      • ruaok
        yeah, doesn't look like a good fit.
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      • ruaok
        especially the blocking on a publish. odd.
      • 2017-04-18 10806, 2017

      • alastairp
        agentsim: hi, I don't think your second query is correct
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      • alastairp
        that is, /ws/2/release/<mbid>?recording=<othermbid>
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      • ruaok
        my impression is to create a connection on the main server process and then have clients create channels from the connection as needed, closing the channel when done.
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      • alastairp
        is (as far as I know) not a valid query
      • 2017-04-18 10808, 2017

      • alastairp
        you need either one (/release/<mbid>) or the other (/release/?recording=<mbid>)
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      • bitmap
        yeah, my impression is that it'll be easy to manage channels yourself like that
      • 2017-04-18 10822, 2017

      • alastairp
        it's true that the second type (called a "browse" query) is the only way of getting all releases which a recording appears on if there are more than 25
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      • agentsim
        alastairp: thanks, that was a dumb mistake, but unfortunately even the correctly formatted URL has the same issue
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      • agentsim
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      • alastairp
        it's also true that the additional data that you can ask for with ?inc is different for browse queries
      • 2017-04-18 10852, 2017

      • ruaok
        I'm going to be watching carefully for scalability issues in any case. and honestly connection pooling to rabbit is going to be much further down the list than a lot of other things.
      • 2017-04-18 10801, 2017

      • alastairp
        right. inc parameters are not equal for both types of queries
      • 2017-04-18 10822, 2017

      • agentsim
        ahh, I guess I missed that one in the docs
      • 2017-04-18 10829, 2017

      • alastairp
        in the worst case, you will have to do a browse query to get all release mbids, and then do a lookup query with the correct inc values for each release
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      • Guest57214
        [metabrainz.org] gentlecat opened pull request #264: [WIP] MEB-90: Add support for donating in EUR using PayPal (master...eur) https://git.io/vSNV7
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      • BrainzBot
        MEB-90: Support donations in EUR https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MEB-90
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      • CatQuest
        pika-pool?
      • 2017-04-18 10812, 2017

      • CatQuest is imagining a swimming pool full of pikachu playing :P
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      • ruaok
        Quesito: about that one customer...
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      • ruaok
        anyone who has a lyrics site, needs to be treated with care.
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      • ruaok
        lyrics are the #1 ground for suing someone in this industry.
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      • Quesito
        yeah...I read up on lyrics....very interesting.
      • 2017-04-18 10849, 2017

      • Quesito
        ^ditto Freso! :P
      • 2017-04-18 10852, 2017

      • ruaok
        Freso: thank you. please do not remind me again in the future.
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      • Quesito
        It was interesting who currently maintains the rights for lyrics/the ability to 'give' rights...
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      • ruaok
        don't even get me started on all that. it is super complicated.
      • 2017-04-18 10807, 2017

      • ruaok
        and ugly.
      • 2017-04-18 10830, 2017

      • ruaok
        the basic thing to know: if someone approaches us and wants uses lyrics, you need to proceed with great caution.
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      • Quesito
        seems so. at least a solid latino daytime telenovela worth of complicated....
      • 2017-04-18 10833, 2017

      • ruaok
        with a dash of murder thrown in.
      • 2017-04-18 10820, 2017

      • ruaok
        so, the first thing to as in any conversation is: do you have a license for lyrics and through whom is it? May we verify this information?
      • 2017-04-18 10832, 2017

      • Quesito
        ok
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      • ruaok
        and anyone who gives a dodgy answer or flat out says no, let them walk away.
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      • ruaok
        now, the flowery tone of the email puts me off.
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      • ruaok
        anyone who is coming with genuine desire for a partnership comes with a more cautious tone.
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      • ruaok
        and they proposed a link exchange? those were pretty hip in... 1996?
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      • ruaok
        reading between the lines, they have no license and are looking to generate traffic.
      • 2017-04-18 10835, 2017

      • ruaok
        so, go and ask them about their license. if they do have a license, tell them that we don't really do link exchanges.
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      • Quesito
        it seemed a bit 'faux professional'/'not legit'
      • 2017-04-18 10813, 2017

      • Quesito
        sounds good
      • 2017-04-18 10853, 2017

      • ruaok nods
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      • ruaok
        at Gentlecat just submitted the PR or the EU paypal support.
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      • Leftmost
        ruaok, I'll put a link to your website on mine if you'll link some beer to my liver.
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      • Quesito
        ruaok: just emailed you good news!
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      • ruaok
        I'll go shopping and then review it. see if we can deploy that today.
      • 2017-04-18 10801, 2017

      • ruaok
        YESSS! That is in fact good news. :)
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      • Quesito
        Leftmost: if that works i want the same deal!
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      • ruaok
        Leftmost: fuck the link, but I'd be happy to link beer to your liver!
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      • ruaok notes that beer is due to leftmost and Quesito
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      • Leftmost
        Score.
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      • ruaok
        Airfare alert: BCN Mumbai return: €350. Hmmm. Too many trips already lined up.
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      • samj1912
        ruaok: woah, thats cheap!
      • 2017-04-18 10857, 2017

      • ruaok
        Yeah. :-) some on Emirates, even.
      • 2017-04-18 10821, 2017

      • samj1912
        cool
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      • samj1912
        Mumbai to my place is about 3k kms though :P
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      • samj1912 finally finished his college ns3 assignment
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      • ruaok
        And €200 probably. :-(
      • 2017-04-18 10841, 2017

      • ruaok
        ( the 3k km)
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      • samj1912
        about 15k rs round
      • 2017-04-18 10804, 2017

      • ruaok needs to start tracking the rupee too
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      • samj1912
        1 E = ~70 Rs
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      • ruaok
        wow, damn. half the cost of getting to the EU. crazy
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      • samj1912
        10k in september though
      • 2017-04-18 10829, 2017

      • ruaok
        still.
      • 2017-04-18 10834, 2017

      • samj1912
        yeah :P
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      • CatQuest
        samj1912: have you seen a soap that is called Medimix in india? (I got it from a store here)
      • 2017-04-18 10847, 2017

      • samj1912
        CatQuest: yes XD
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      • CatQuest
        :D
      • 2017-04-18 10852, 2017

      • CatQuest
        i love the smell of it :D
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      • bochecha
        hi, I've been playing with a Flatpak build of Picard for some time, and today I added it to Flathub; is that something that upstream Picard would be interested in? :)
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      • samj1912
        its crazy cheap here :P
      • 2017-04-18 10813, 2017

      • samj1912
        that soap :
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      • CatQuest
        samj1912: the sopa or the plane tickets? :P
      • 2017-04-18 10831, 2017

      • CatQuest
        soap*
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      • ruaok
        zas, samj1912 ^^
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      • samj1912
        bochecha: screenshots please :D
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      • samj1912
        definitely yes, we are thinking of transitioning to a flatter look with 2.0, but we need CC stuff and svgs :P
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      • bochecha
        for those who don't know, Flatpak is a new way to build/distribute desktop apps on Linux, with bundling, sandboxing, deduplication and static deltas
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      • CatQuest
        when i read "Flatpak build of Picard" my mind conjures up some kind of IKEA deal o_O
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      • bochecha
        samj1912: it looks exactly like the regular Picard
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      • CatQuest
        wait wat no
      • 2017-04-18 10849, 2017

      • CatQuest
        nooo
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      • ruaok
        bochecha: ohhh, sounds promising.
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      • Leftmost
        flatpak++
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      • bochecha
        samj1912: oh, you thought I made a new theme for it?
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      • ruaok had images of ikea come to mind
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      • samj1912
        oh, I thought you were talking about flatpak the theme :P
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      • bochecha
        right, the name flatpak is a wordplay on flat packing, used among others by Ikea (because it's packaging :P)
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      • Leftmost
        It could even bundle in the fpcalc stuff, which (currently) is not distributed by default in Fedora.
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      • bochecha
        Leftmost: and it fact, my build already does :-°
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      • Leftmost
        <3
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      • samj1912
        ohhh, let me read about it
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      • CatQuest
        ohh, yes, that that ound good :D
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      • bochecha
        that's why I started looking into flatpak for picard, I use Fedora, the fpcalc stuff was missing
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      • bochecha
        it's currently still building in flathub, I'll send a link as soon as it's done :)
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      • Leftmost
        bochecha, I like the cut of your jib, and probably a couple other sails for that matter. :)
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      • bochecha
        Leftmost: I'm not sure I understand what you mean
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      • CatQuest
        yea, it's kinda pita to keep that also up-to-date, in fact my fpcalc is horribyl out of date :D
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      • Leftmost
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      • CatQuest
        but I wouldn'tm ind "themes" for picard, asl long as we can keep a "classic" looking one as well :D
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      • bochecha
        CatQuest: well, here's how it gets built with flatpak: https://github.com/flathub/org.musicbrainz.Picard…
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      • samj1912
        bochecha: cool
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      • bochecha
        a json file which describes what to build and how, then `flatpak-builder` does its job
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      • CatQuest
        bochecha: sorry, non-coder here, I need ti a bit more.. uh.. visual , not code-ual
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      • bochecha
        Leftmost: heh, today I learned something :)
      • 2017-04-18 10839, 2017

      • bochecha
        CatQuest: flatpak is definitely not a visual thing
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      • CatQuest
        jajajajaja
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      • bochecha
        basically it's a way to build a bundle, and then a way for your users to install that bundle
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      • CatQuest
        but that means I was ironically right about the ikea reference :D
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      • bochecha
        with a lot of sugar on top ;)
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      • bochecha
        CatQuest: you absolutely were
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      • CatQuest
        haha
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      • bochecha
        basically, a flatpak build of picard could replace the whole « Picard for Linux » section here: https://picard.musicbrainz.org/downloads/
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      • CatQuest
        Leftmost: thanks for linking that, now I know where that comes fro mand also understand your refrence :D
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      • bochecha
        including the FAQ entry for Fedora
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      • CatQuest
        bochecha: like the shape of your jib :D