Anyone know if there is a good crowd-sourced database of track genres anywhere? I see ListenBrainz is taking over scrobbling from Last.fm, is there anything that can replace their tag folksonomy?
2017-04-19 10952, 2017
Leo_Verto
naught101, Genres are a feature that MB is planning to tackle at some point in the future
2017-04-19 10931, 2017
naught101
Leo_Verto: Awesome. I'm super impressed with this project.
2017-04-19 10947, 2017
naught101
the power of music nerds, eh? :D
2017-04-19 10959, 2017
Leo_Verto
yeah :D
2017-04-19 10935, 2017
Leo_Verto
there are some really obscure releases in MB
2017-04-19 10902, 2017
naught101
Leo_Verto: yep, I've added a few ;)
2017-04-19 10928, 2017
naught101
Leo_Verto: do you know if there's any info on what work has been done so far on the Genre stuff?
MBS-8600: Decide on an initial list of genres to hardcode
2017-04-19 10935, 2017
Leo_Verto
the main problem with genres is that they're not really factual data
2017-04-19 10950, 2017
naught101
Leo_Verto: No, that's why last.FM's tag data is so useful: it's per track AND per user, and track data is an agglomeration of user-track data.
2017-04-19 10931, 2017
naught101
So each genre kind of has a certainty associated with it - if more users have used a particular tag than any other tag, then that's a good tag for that track (assuming enough users)
2017-04-19 10931, 2017
Leo_Verto
hmm, MB has tags, have you looked into those?
2017-04-19 10958, 2017
Leo_Verto
though they're pretty unreliable as people use them for all kinds of stuff
2017-04-19 10959, 2017
naught101
Leo_Verto: yeah, but they're not a folksonomy, so far more subjective and less useful, to my mind at least.
2017-04-19 10911, 2017
Leo_Verto
mhm
2017-04-19 10926, 2017
naught101
Leo_Verto: yeah.. most software that uses them just ignores things like "favourite", or "seen live"
2017-04-19 10915, 2017
naught101
But if you can post-facto identify specific tags as genres, or moods, or what ever, then they become really useful.
2017-04-19 10913, 2017
naught101
Oh, acoustibrainz has genre tags somehow? is that algorithmically decided?
but you should probably ask someone who knows AB better than I do if you want to know more about that :P
2017-04-19 10905, 2017
naught101
ok
2017-04-19 10909, 2017
Leo_Verto
most of the team lives in or around UTC+1
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Leo_Verto
+2 now because DST
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Freso
I don't see how MB tags are not folksonomy... in fact, we specifically call them that. And they're both per-entity and per-user.
2017-04-19 10959, 2017
CallerNo6
Maybe it was meant more like "a (consistent? useful?) folksonomy hasn't yet emerged from the tags"?
2017-04-19 10930, 2017
Freso
Possibly. I would argue that for many cases the same would be true for last.fm though. But then, I guess I don't deal much with mainstream music where it might be true. :)
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[picard-website] samj1912 closed pull request #79: PW-51: Fix run.py when py3 also installed. (master...Fix-run.py-when-py3-also-installed) https://git.io/vSAiG
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it is grey, overcast and generally gloomy here in BCN.
2017-04-19 10913, 2017
ruaok
I give it an hour and it will either rain or be sunny. :)
2017-04-19 10938, 2017
zas
Moin ruaok
2017-04-19 10909, 2017
ruaok
moin!
2017-04-19 10947, 2017
ruaok
hey, in grafana, I've got two timelines and I want to link them by having the same red line that follows the cursor on all lines on that dashboard. How do I make that happen, zas?
2017-04-19 10955, 2017
zas
i don't know, they changed it in last release, not sure why. It was an option in Settings, let me have a look, it bothered me too
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ruaok
thx
2017-04-19 10949, 2017
yvanzo
reosarevok: I am just trying to get rid of these @%§*💣# attributes first. :D
2017-04-19 10924, 2017
zas
ruaok: in Dashboard > Settings > General > Panel Options > Shared crosshairs (or new Shared Tooltips)
it really takes a while to get used to grafana, but man, its great stuff.
2017-04-19 10924, 2017
ruaok
ohh, we can add a listens/time dashboard for LB this way too.
2017-04-19 10939, 2017
ruaok
also, zas, did you catch how I want to do the total number of listens count in influx?
2017-04-19 10912, 2017
ruaok is finally learning to think in non relational ways
2017-04-19 10940, 2017
zas
ruaok: not really, i don't know much about LB in fact ;)
2017-04-19 10957, 2017
ruaok
well, the primary listenstore is influx, right?
2017-04-19 10934, 2017
ruaok
and keeping track of how many listens there are can be tricky since users = measurements and you can't do a count across all measurements.
2017-04-19 10941, 2017
ruaok
(stupid idea)
2017-04-19 10903, 2017
ruaok
but, using continous queries, I can have it make a new timeline with number of listens added in the past time window.
2017-04-19 10923, 2017
ruaok
add that value to the previously last item in that timeline and save it.
2017-04-19 10948, 2017
ruaok
the we just need to look at the most recent item in the timeline to get a really good idea of the number of listens AND it creates a historical timeline all at the same time.
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ruaok
with 2 or 3 queries and nothing elss.
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ruaok
else
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zas
can you point me at influxdb queries you do ?
2017-04-19 10909, 2017
ruaok
for the continous stuff?
2017-04-19 10930, 2017
ruaok
I haven't gotten that to work yet, but I haven't really tried very hard yet. I have another PR to finish first.
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zas
nope, queries to store stuff in influxdb, what are your measurements and tags associated with them ?
