I jumped back into some graphic design this week and realized how much my style has grown in the past 1.5 years..partially due to the constant GCI-mentoring improvement lol
2017-05-05 12504, 2017
Quesito
do you want to make a social media banner? we will be having a contest in June gcilou_!
2017-05-05 12530, 2017
gcilou_
oh cool I'd love to!
2017-05-05 12550, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
hey gcilou_, how's your job going?
2017-05-05 12534, 2017
gcilou_
Leo_Verto[m]: it's really great!! I'm learning so much and having a blast. It takes up more time than I was expecting though
2017-05-05 12528, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
it's a lot more exhausting than school, isn't it?
2017-05-05 12516, 2017
gcilou_
Leo_Verto[m]: Yeah definitely since my school is like sitting at home on my laptop lol. But it's only part time so I do get freedom. Except when they put me on important stuff like now and I work unlogged hours lol
2017-05-05 12535, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
That sounds illegal
2017-05-05 12519, 2017
gcilou_
nah it's honestly my choice and since I'm a bit of an over-achiever...I have to force myself to stop working
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Quesito
hey you two Leo_Verto[m] and gcilou_ any further thoughts on UX q's for the survey?
2017-05-05 12512, 2017
gcilou_
Quesito: I'm down with what we have..they seem pretty good to me. I can't remember if we have this already or not but could we leave a space for them to write an optional thoughts/comments on our UX?
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Quesito
4 out of the 6 questions are write-ins, so we do have quite a bit of space for folks to write in any thoughts, but perhaps an open ended 'thoughts/comments' would give us more insight.
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gcilou_
yeah I think it's better to give them space than not have enough room to express their thoughts
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Quesito
👍
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Leo_Verto[m]
What's your take on making questions optional vs required?
2017-05-05 12522, 2017
Quesito
how much of the survey is required?
2017-05-05 12528, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
Right now? Next to nothing (for testing purposes)
2017-05-05 12528, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
My previous plan was to make pretty much everything but the last section required
2017-05-05 12556, 2017
Quesito
honestly I don't like making anything required when asking people to volunteer their time and opinions...but at the same time we really need information!
2017-05-05 12509, 2017
Quesito
ok
2017-05-05 12521, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
yeah, if questions can be difficult to answer it might be good to allow people to just not to so they can submit the rest of the survey instead of not submitting it at all
2017-05-05 12532, 2017
Quesito
It's rather important for anyone taking the survey to know we really need this information and are appreciative of their time
2017-05-05 12538, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
but I don't want to encourage extremely low-effort answers
2017-05-05 12556, 2017
Quesito
yeah, some information is better then none--but yeah
2017-05-05 12559, 2017
Quesito
exactly
2017-05-05 12537, 2017
Quesito
one word answers might be less information....:/
2017-05-05 12528, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
well, I'm not just thinking about the writing questions, some people might just not remember how difficult getting started with MB was because it's been ages ago
2017-05-05 12543, 2017
Quesito
yeah
2017-05-05 12521, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
I also just realized that this might mean the difficulties from back then could have been resolved, hm
2017-05-05 12523, 2017
Quesito
maybe make the write-in Q's optional. it's really the UX and last 2 q's that are write ins.
2017-05-05 12533, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
yeah
2017-05-05 12534, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
we can instead write in the prefeace "we've made all the questions optional, but we really, really want as much opinions as possible, so please fill in as many questions as possible" or some such
2017-05-05 12553, 2017
Quesito
and maybe we make more of the UX q's multiple choice to even out some data.
2017-05-05 12505, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
mhm
2017-05-05 12523, 2017
Quesito
+1 ZaphodBeeblebrox
2017-05-05 12541, 2017
Quesito
something that shows earnest appreciation
2017-05-05 12548, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
for any mandatoryquestion there reallsy needs to be a "I don't know/care/understand the question option.
2017-05-05 12549, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
ZaphodBeeblebrox: call me a cynist but I don't believe that would change anything
2017-05-05 12502, 2017
rdswift
Sorry for jumping into your conversation, but I'm part of a team that responds to surveys (somewhere around 100 per year). The format that I appreciate the most is when there's a number of "potential" answers to select from (as many as apply), plus a "none of the above", plus a field to enter your own / additional responses. It makes it fairly quick and the responses can easily be summarized and
2017-05-05 12517, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
Leo_Verto[m]: be cynist, but not a defeatist. insert it anyway
2017-05-05 12540, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
+1 rdswift
2017-05-05 12547, 2017
rdswift
... and analyzed.
2017-05-05 12513, 2017
rdswift
Because they are in a standard format.
2017-05-05 12541, 2017
Leo_Verto[m]
thank you for jumping in, getting some additional input is great!
2017-05-05 12548, 2017
Quesito
rdswift: thank you for jumping in! that is a very good suggestion!
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
basically what I've been saying, too :D
2017-05-05 12534, 2017
rdswift
Great minds think alike. [grin]
2017-05-05 12547, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
multiple choice, "no option/don't know/nonne of the above" option and self in sert text
you really don't need to but I'd really appreciate some feedback
2017-05-05 12503, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
indeed
2017-05-05 12514, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
tsk, "metal" is still not part of the regular genre list leo ಠ_ಠ
2017-05-05 12537, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
also blues should be
2017-05-05 12514, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
if you differenciate between hiphop and r&b :O rock and metal cna be so very different
2017-05-05 12522, 2017
Quesito
how are blues and metal not in the genre list? dare I dabble in the genre discussion....
2017-05-05 12532, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
haha Quesito z3
2017-05-05 12536, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
erh <3
2017-05-05 12509, 2017
Quesito
:)
2017-05-05 12544, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
also, How familiar are you with the majority of artists you enter? still idon't understand this question: i know freso personally, but i know bang all about the music he plays (ok, a little, but not at all enough to edit it)
2017-05-05 12548, 2017
rdswift
For the first question, you might also want to add an option for "Don't remember / not sure", because that applies to me. [grin] The rest of the first page looks good.
2017-05-05 12539, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
I have found artists online which I know a lot about, also even moe than anything else, also things like chiptunes = win which only excists online
2017-05-05 12532, 2017
rdswift
On question 3, you might want to consider another response or two. (1) something about keeping track of my music collection. (2) share information useful to others for tagging their files.
2017-05-05 12545, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
oh those are good ones!
2017-05-05 12556, 2017
ZaphodBeeblebrox
oh also that question could have a "I don't edit artists" option :o
2017-05-05 12509, 2017
rdswift
Page 2 looks okay, although there are a couple that I've heard of but not sure what they are. I guess I would answer "heard of but don't use", but the reason I don't use is because I'm not sure how to use.
2017-05-05 12549, 2017
rdswift
Improvement ideas page looks okay. I know it says "MusicBrainz", but I suspect you might get some "Picard" responses as well.
2017-05-05 12559, 2017
Sophist-UK
Leo_Verto[m]:Interested in feedback on the survey from me?
2017-05-05 12545, 2017
rdswift
I'm also struggling a little with the question about being familiar with the artists. Some I've entered I've exchanged email with them, but have never met them in person. Some my niece's husband knows personally, but I've never met them. I guess both of those would be somewhere in the middle?
2017-05-05 12540, 2017
rdswift
How would that compare with The Beatles or The Who? I didn't hear about them through the Internet, and I don't know them personally. Would they also be somewhere in the middle? That's a pretty wide spread of circumstances gettin the same rating.
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rdswift
As for data sources, I *think* I understand the difference that you mean between "physical release" and "first hand", but I suspect that it may not be interpreted the same way by everyone.
2017-05-05 12536, 2017
rdswift
No comment on the question about Othe MetaBrainz projects. Looks fine to me.
2017-05-05 12511, 2017
rdswift
Same with the question about taggers.
2017-05-05 12526, 2017
rdswift
My only comment about the demographics questions is that much of the raw data will need to be processed manually. If you're interested in things like age ranges, make that a radio button collection. Most countries could be selected from a pull-down list, with the ability to select multiples, and a text box for ones not listed.
2017-05-05 12524, 2017
rdswift
Submit page looks good.
2017-05-05 12546, 2017
rdswift
Leo_Vento[m] I hope that helps. I look forward to filling it out for real once it's finalized.
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SothoTalker_
for an astronomer, metal is anything above helium :D
2017-05-05 12549, 2017
hibiscuskazeneko
Even oxygen?
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SothoTalker_
Leo_Verto[m]: you could always add an "i dont want to/cant answer this question" thingy.
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SothoTalker_
hibiscuskazeneko: even oxygen.
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Leo_Verto[m]
rdswift: thank you very much, you've raised some great points!
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Leo_Verto[m]
the age range is verified using Google Form's verficiation feature
