Hmm.. The begin field, of the life-span field on musicbrainz. Can it be any format? I've so far seen just a year, and YYYY-MM-DD. Wanna know how many different cases I'm working with here :)
2017-05-17 13755, 2017
kuno
Ether_Man: I _think_ all parts are optional, so for example if you know an artist's birthday is july 23rd, but you don't know their birth year, you'd be able to enter that into MusicBrainz.
2017-05-17 13731, 2017
Ether_Man
Right, but it'll never be in like dd/mm/yyyy? or mm/dd/yyyy?
2017-05-17 13705, 2017
kuno
Ether_Man: the webservice should return it in a standard format
2017-05-17 13720, 2017
Ether_Man
Cheers :)
2017-05-17 13735, 2017
kuno
np :)
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2017-05-17 13721, 2017
ferbncode
alastairp, Gentlecat: Hi :), I wanted some suggestion on the design of the module dealing with the mb related code.
It might be good to include Hornbostel-Sachs in the name there, I think it might make it much clearer for some people
2017-05-17 13708, 2017
reosarevok
Something like MIMO ID (Hornbostel-Sachs) ?
2017-05-17 13710, 2017
reosarevok
Dunno
2017-05-17 13719, 2017
yvanzo
CatQuest may enlight this.
2017-05-17 13742, 2017
reosarevok
(are we validating that free text field in any way right now? Might be good to check it fits the schema, so numbers, or numbers separated by dots or hyphens
2017-05-17 13754, 2017
yvanzo
The PDF link from that ticket description is broken
reosarevok: No. But I wouldn't object to making a new ticket for "Runout" and then closing that ticket. Or you can rename it once the admin interface it live (I hope).
2017-05-17 13719, 2017
yvanzo afk 5m
2017-05-17 13749, 2017
reosarevok
what is runout anyway?
2017-05-17 13756, 2017
reosarevok
I've heard matrix before, but not that
2017-05-17 13700, 2017
reosarevok
Hmm
2017-05-17 13717, 2017
reosarevok
"The mould SID code identifies the plant where the CD was pressed" - but we don't generally bother keeping pressings separate
2017-05-17 13706, 2017
Freso
I'm honestly not 100% sure of the distinction between the two. :)
2017-05-17 13710, 2017
reosarevok
I guess as long as we support multiple it might be ok, but
I usually add matrix information for CDs I have physically. I really should link them with Disc IDs though.
2017-05-17 13720, 2017
zas
matrix runouts (or whatever they are called) are very useful to identify "releases", they can differ even for the same "release" (MB definition)
2017-05-17 13735, 2017
reosarevok
I guess matrix is the same?
2017-05-17 13736, 2017
reosarevok
Yeah
2017-05-17 13744, 2017
reosarevok
"One edition of a release may have many different matrix numbers on individual copies - especially for major label releases. These are considered manufacturing variations for the purposes of cataloguing on Discogs, and not unique releases, so one Discogs 'release' may contain multiple variations in matrix numbers etc."
2017-05-17 13747, 2017
zas
for example, some widely available releases can be pressed in more than one factory
2017-05-17 13755, 2017
reosarevok
Guess it's the same for us then
2017-05-17 13708, 2017
reosarevok
(... we probably should have some documentation for this, huh)
2017-05-17 13753, 2017
Gentlecat
ferbncode: one problem is that it might be difficult to maintain both ways of getting MB data
2017-05-17 13718, 2017
reosarevok
yvanzo: can you rename "Matrix code" to "Matrix/Runout" or should I do it from the admin interface eventually? They seem similar enough there's no real reason to keep them separate IMO
2017-05-17 13735, 2017
Gentlecat
and the ways in which they are used might end up looking differently too
2017-05-17 13727, 2017
zas
BTW, i used to scan the "matrix runout" side of CDs, but there is no CAA type for those (apart "medium" + a comment), perhaps this is something to improve in the future, especially if one release can have multiple matrix runouts associated with.
2017-05-17 13725, 2017
reosarevok
Ticket!
2017-05-17 13712, 2017
reosarevok
(not sure what kind though... is that style or CAA? no idea...)
2017-05-17 13719, 2017
reosarevok
Ok, I think that's it for closing tickets :)
2017-05-17 13738, 2017
ferbncode
Gentlecat: The wrappers can be modified to call functions with different arguments, returning data in a similar manner (from both the db and the ws).
yvanzo: They are, I was just wondering re: having multiple per MB release since we don't want to start separating pressings
2017-05-17 13750, 2017
reosarevok
But that should be fine :)
2017-05-17 13710, 2017
yvanzo
I renamed Matrix/Runout attribute.
2017-05-17 13738, 2017
reosarevok
Thanks! :)
2017-05-17 13745, 2017
yvanzo
We skipped SPARS code.
2017-05-17 13746, 2017
ferbncode
Gentlecat: so we import only the mbdump.tar.bz2 and the mbdump-derived.tar.bz2(if necessary) as they cover most of the data leaving edits history etc
2017-05-17 13713, 2017
reosarevok
Nah I closed it anyway :)
2017-05-17 13718, 2017
reosarevok
(I think?)
2017-05-17 13724, 2017
reosarevok
Yeah
2017-05-17 13702, 2017
yvanzo
There are a few changes regarding initial request: it will be attached to medium rather than release, there are far more allowed values than requested (but most frequent values will be at the top of the list).
2017-05-17 13708, 2017
reosarevok
Medium sounds definitely good
2017-05-17 13751, 2017
yvanzo
We do not have SPARS code at track level for now, but this is a rare case.
