Yeah, I got it wasn't MB but I didn't know what you're working on :)
2017-05-25 14517, 2017
reosarevok
"A drone made with a disfuncional coffee pot."
2017-05-25 14520, 2017
CatQuest had no idea sorry
2017-05-25 14521, 2017
reosarevok approves of the site already
2017-05-25 14540, 2017
alastairp
yeah, we need to be more careful about our random sounds
2017-05-25 14511, 2017
reosarevok
Eh, that literally sounds awesome :p
2017-05-25 14518, 2017
reosarevok
(well, ok, not literally, I haven't listened yet)
2017-05-25 14530, 2017
reosarevok
"As you can imagine, the cost of maintaining Freesound has been increasing as the site has grown" can't you just throw all the stuff in the IA and just be an index?
2017-05-25 14542, 2017
CatQuest
:D
2017-05-25 14507, 2017
alastairp
storage and network costs are free for us
2017-05-25 14510, 2017
alastairp
because of the university
2017-05-25 14511, 2017
reosarevok
Oh
2017-05-25 14516, 2017
alastairp
development costs
2017-05-25 14517, 2017
reosarevok
So what's the cost, maintenance?
2017-05-25 14519, 2017
reosarevok
Ok
2017-05-25 14545, 2017
alastairp
also, FS has always been a tool to collect secret data for research
2017-05-25 14500, 2017
alastairp
so we keep track of downloads, clicks, etc
2017-05-25 14511, 2017
alastairp
which would be more difficult if we move downloads offsite
2017-05-25 14545, 2017
reosarevok
Oh you evil spies
2017-05-25 14547, 2017
reosarevok
Ok, gotcha
2017-05-25 14507, 2017
reosarevok
But yeah, no point anyway if you don't pay for them :D
2017-05-25 14523, 2017
reosarevok
The patreon thing someone suggested sounds interesting
2017-05-25 14536, 2017
reosarevok
(I wonder if MB has ever looked into that)
2017-05-25 14546, 2017
alastairp
although, if there's anything that newhost move has shown me, hetzner is really cheap and we could probably host it on only 2 or 3 servers :D
2017-05-25 14504, 2017
alastairp
yeah, patreon is interesting
2017-05-25 14517, 2017
reosarevok
I mean I've seen it for other things but not often for dev work
2017-05-25 14518, 2017
alastairp
we got a 500% increase in donations just by posting that, though
and many people posting their first comment on our forum in this thread, so it sounds like for the most part it's just a matter of telling people that they can do it
2017-05-25 14502, 2017
alastairp
send them a nag email once every 6 months
2017-05-25 14504, 2017
reosarevok
(that is the only dev patreon I've seen)
2017-05-25 14509, 2017
reosarevok
Yeah, that sounds reasonable too
2017-05-25 14527, 2017
reosarevok
Of course, 500% increase usefulness depends on how much the start point is :p
2017-05-25 14534, 2017
alastairp
the download/everyone else ratio is incredible
2017-05-25 14539, 2017
alastairp
we shift about 600gb of sounds a day
2017-05-25 14508, 2017
alastairp
if 1/10 of downloaders donated $2 every time they downloaded, we would be self-sufficient)
2017-05-25 14513, 2017
alastairp
including hosting costs
2017-05-25 14559, 2017
reosarevok
Well sure, and if every active MB editor donated $2 per month we'd have at least one extra dev, but eh
2017-05-25 14523, 2017
reosarevok
(that's why Patreon and the like are kinda neat, because they automatically are repeating IIRC so it makes it more likely they donate again and again)
2017-05-25 14537, 2017
reosarevok
(even if they forget about it :D)
2017-05-25 14505, 2017
alastairp
yep
2017-05-25 14518, 2017
Sophist-UK joined the channel
2017-05-25 14519, 2017
reosarevok
(and once you set a recurring payment it's easy to forget you have... as my paying my ISP for like 9 months after closing my contract proves *sigh*)
2017-05-25 14530, 2017
alastairp
we have paypal, we could always tell them to set up a recurring payment
2017-05-25 14504, 2017
CatQuest
reosarevok: you got that bakc thoguh, :O??
2017-05-25 14523, 2017
reosarevok
Yeah, but that feels different somehow. Dunno. Somehow "hey maybe make a recurring payment" sounds more like begging than "hey maybe use this site which happens to make recurring payments" :D
2017-05-25 14546, 2017
reosarevok
CatQuest: I didn't, but it got stored as "pre-payment" for my account
2017-05-25 14557, 2017
CatQuest
.. wich you never used anymore? ¬¬
2017-05-25 14507, 2017
reosarevok
So once I reopen a contract I'll just not pay for it for a while
2017-05-25 14529, 2017
alastairp
reosarevok: yeah :D
2017-05-25 14540, 2017
reosarevok
I mean, I might be able to get it back if I ask, but eh, effort
2017-05-25 14546, 2017
alastairp
it'd be nice to hook in to patreon to let people fund their favourite sound uploaders, too
2017-05-25 14551, 2017
reosarevok is even lazier than usual lately
2017-05-25 14556, 2017
CatQuest
btw, does anyone know of a neat way to incorporate the sort of grap like
[listenbrainz-server] paramsingh opened pull request #179: LB-138: Create a listenbrainz module so we don't change sys.path anymore (master...absolute-imports) https://git.io/vHskT
