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      • ruaok
        wtf?
      • 2017-07-10 19148, 2017

      • Freso
        My mom used to use them a lot when I was a kid, 20-ish years ago.
      • 2017-07-10 19102, 2017

      • Freso
        I've received a couple myself in the last 10 years.
      • 2017-07-10 19111, 2017

      • ruaok
        20 years ago -- that vaguely makes sense. they are still a daily thing in the US>
      • 2017-07-10 19116, 2017

      • samj1912
        paper checks are still used in india :P
      • 2017-07-10 19119, 2017

      • ruaok
        anyways.
      • 2017-07-10 19149, 2017

      • ruaok
        Quesito and I did a bonzai run accounting bit, pretty much finishing our transition to synchronized quarterly billing.
      • 2017-07-10 19104, 2017

      • ruaok
        and we're nearly caught up with getting all current invoices out.
      • 2017-07-10 19110, 2017

      • ruaok
        we find ourselves in a curious situation.
      • 2017-07-10 19115, 2017

      • ruaok
        we have money in the bank.
      • 2017-07-10 19128, 2017

      • ruaok
        and supporters owe us the same amount again.
      • 2017-07-10 19136, 2017

      • Freso
        (Still up: bitmap, Gentlecat, zas, Quesito, yvanzo, psolanki, ListMyCDs; maybe up (please confirm: KassOtsimine, LordSputnik, Leftmost, Leo_Verto, alastairp; anyone else?)
      • 2017-07-10 19154, 2017

      • ruaok
        once we get the next invoice in, we'll get a final tally, but we have enough money to run for a year at the current burn rate.
      • 2017-07-10 19102, 2017

      • ruaok
        which is incredible.
      • 2017-07-10 19115, 2017

      • samj1912
        \o/
      • 2017-07-10 19116, 2017

      • Freso
        !m ruaok
      • 2017-07-10 19116, 2017

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, ruaok!
      • 2017-07-10 19117, 2017

      • ruaok
        clearly, we're doing something right. congrats to everyone.
      • 2017-07-10 19149, 2017

      • ruaok
        then on the LB front, we keep pushing out pre-betas and asking people to do imports and people keep breaking it. which is good.
      • 2017-07-10 19104, 2017

      • Freso
        !m people who break stuff
      • 2017-07-10 19104, 2017

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, people who break stuff!
      • 2017-07-10 19116, 2017

      • ruaok
        but a wee bit frustrating. we'd had hope to push out the beta today, but due to a bug over the weekend, we had to postpone that.
      • 2017-07-10 19131, 2017

      • ruaok
        today was all meta stuff for me, tomorrow I hope to get back into LB stuffs.
      • 2017-07-10 19136, 2017

      • ruaok
        fin. Quesito ?
      • 2017-07-10 19145, 2017

      • Quesito
        Hola!
      • 2017-07-10 19159, 2017

      • Quesito
        awww no Leftmost again :(
      • 2017-07-10 19111, 2017

      • Quesito
        Lets see - ruaok talk the accounting part of last week
      • 2017-07-10 19136, 2017

      • Quesito
        nice to see the quarterly system in place and working--and in one day we really rocked it!
      • 2017-07-10 19159, 2017

      • Leo_Verto is here
      • 2017-07-10 19123, 2017

      • Quesito
        I helped org the roll out of the survey with Freso Leo_Verto and reosarevok and we have a bunch of graphics for the reminders I'll tend to in the upcoming month
      • 2017-07-10 19128, 2017

      • Quesito
        I'm excited for results
      • 2017-07-10 19155, 2017

      • Quesito
        and dealing with some other ORG stuff with ruaok
      • 2017-07-10 19157, 2017

      • Quesito
        fin!
      • 2017-07-10 19102, 2017

      • Quesito
        Leo_Verto: GO! :)
      • 2017-07-10 19117, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        Thanks!
      • 2017-07-10 19132, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        Well, we launched the user survey last wednesday and so far it's been a great success
      • 2017-07-10 19140, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        we have 438 responses already
      • 2017-07-10 19146, 2017

      • ruaok
        wow
      • 2017-07-10 19154, 2017

      • Quesito
        WOW!!!!!
      • 2017-07-10 19100, 2017

      • Freso
        Nice.
      • 2017-07-10 19109, 2017

      • Quesito
        !m Leo_Verto
      • 2017-07-10 19109, 2017

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, Leo_Verto!
      • 2017-07-10 19141, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        There are already a bunch of really interesting results, for example a lot of people apparently weren't aware of some more niche entity types and the other MeB projects, so hopefully they've learned something new
      • 2017-07-10 19142, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        thanks :D
      • 2017-07-10 19154, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        We've also gotten tons of feedback from the free-form text questions
      • 2017-07-10 19128, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        The general consensus seems to be that MB is at a 4 out of 5 right now but getting started can be quite difficult (so nothing new there)
      • 2017-07-10 19130, 2017

      • zas
        how many of those 438 are from spammers ? ;)
      • 2017-07-10 19102, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        If there are any then there's not a lot
      • 2017-07-10 19120, 2017

      • Freso
        Leo_Verto: Darn. Spammers make up the vast majority of our users. :(
      • 2017-07-10 19129, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        I pretty much left all the questions optional but the first one is mandatory to prevent spam
      • 2017-07-10 19143, 2017

      • zas
        Freso: exactly ;)
      • 2017-07-10 19143, 2017

      • LordSputnik checking in
      • 2017-07-10 19144, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        heh
      • 2017-07-10 19131, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        Anyway, we've also found out a whole lot about our user demographics, for example that the median age seems to be somewhere in the thirties
      • 2017-07-10 19155, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        With quite a lot of users being in their fourtiers and fifties
      • 2017-07-10 19127, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        But I'm planning to write two blog posts on the survey, one on the general feedback and one on the demographics
      • 2017-07-10 19143, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        fin.
      • 2017-07-10 19147, 2017

      • Freso
        Leo_Verto: 🙌
      • 2017-07-10 19157, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        Gentlecat: go!
      • 2017-07-10 19107, 2017

      • Gentlecat
        alright
      • 2017-07-10 19148, 2017

      • CallerNo6 has quit
      • 2017-07-10 19105, 2017

      • Gentlecat
        most of the work was on the CB again. helping gsoc students, fixing, and deploying stuff
      • 2017-07-10 19109, 2017

      • CallerNo6 joined the channel
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      • Gentlecat
        discussed some issues in SIR with mineo, hope to make some progress there soon
      • 2017-07-10 19155, 2017

      • ladyfriday is now known as mrmonday
      • 2017-07-10 19103, 2017

      • mrmonday is now known as ladyfriday
      • 2017-07-10 19117, 2017

      • Gentlecat
        overall didn't get much done since I've been sick all week (and still am)
      • 2017-07-10 19124, 2017

      • Gentlecat
        psolanki: ?
      • 2017-07-10 19148, 2017

      • psolanki
        Hello
      • 2017-07-10 19157, 2017

      • Freso
        Get better soon Gentlecat!
      • 2017-07-10 19123, 2017

      • psolanki
        I continued my work on data access modules to accumulate rating system
      • 2017-07-10 19139, 2017

      • psolanki
        Also, wrote tests for them
      • 2017-07-10 19140, 2017

      • psolanki
        And finally merged the schema changes
      • 2017-07-10 19111, 2017

      • psolanki
        Fin.
      • 2017-07-10 19115, 2017

      • psolanki
        ListMyCDs: go
      • 2017-07-10 19119, 2017

      • ListMyCDs
        k
      • 2017-07-10 19138, 2017

      • ListMyCDs
        On tuesday I got huge headache and body temperature started rising. Influenza. 4 days in bed. During the weekend I improved UI and wrote code constructing and making queries to search server. Today I started to include components (by bitmap & ruchiranga) to actually show results for these queries. I'm behind the schedule so this will be extremely busy week.
      • 2017-07-10 19153, 2017

      • ListMyCDs
        go bitmap
      • 2017-07-10 19133, 2017

      • bitmap
        hey. I was moving/unpacking and took the week off for the most part. nothing really to report (sorry). back to normal this week.
      • 2017-07-10 19100, 2017

      • bitmap
        yvanzo?
      • 2017-07-10 19107, 2017

      • Mineo joined the channel
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      • Freso
        Guess not... zas: Go!
      • 2017-07-10 19122, 2017

      • ruaok
        I'm kinda worried about yvanzo. no word, no invoice. nada. :(
      • 2017-07-10 19141, 2017

      • zas
        Nothing much to say, mainly usual maintenance, upgrades, minor fixes
      • 2017-07-10 19102, 2017

      • zas
        and samj1912's PR review
      • 2017-07-10 19106, 2017

      • Gentlecat
        ListMyCDs: team sick 🙌
      • 2017-07-10 19113, 2017

      • Freso
        (Still up: yvanzo, LordSputnik; maybe up (please confirm): KassOtsimine, alastairp; anyone else?)
      • 2017-07-10 19138, 2017

      • zas
        i also restarted variours services and reported related issues
      • 2017-07-10 19152, 2017

      • ListMyCDs
        yey, what a team! xD
      • 2017-07-10 19109, 2017

      • zas
        fin.
      • 2017-07-10 19132, 2017

      • zas
        ListMyCDs: go
      • 2017-07-10 19142, 2017

      • zas
        oh you did
      • 2017-07-10 19148, 2017

      • ListMyCDs
        np
      • 2017-07-10 19151, 2017

      • zas
        who's next ?
      • 2017-07-10 19143, 2017

      • Quesito
        LordSputnik: ?
      • 2017-07-10 19151, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        ok
      • 2017-07-10 19110, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        So I started this week by switching bookbrainz-site from using npm to using yarn
      • 2017-07-10 19116, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        Two days later I switched back the other way
      • 2017-07-10 19141, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        Turns out that neither have great lockfiles at the moment (for exact dependency versions between environments)
      • 2017-07-10 19108, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        Anyway, after that, I got some useful work done and upgraded a couple of dependencies, which pretty much finishes the dependency upgrade work for another few months
      • 2017-07-10 19132, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        Then I reverted the change that enabled the new entity editor for creator entities, and made the first BB release for about 10 months :D
      • 2017-07-10 19158, 2017

      • Freso
        ( yvanzo, KassOtsimine, alastairp: ping? )
      • 2017-07-10 19103, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        In the process I ditched Docker for BookBrainz in production because it adds a ton of unnecessary complexity for no real benefit in our situation
      • 2017-07-10 19127, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        And at the same time I also added https://bookbrainz.org/monitor/
      • 2017-07-10 19145, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        so BookBrainz is now logging requests and the response times in InfluxDB
      • 2017-07-10 19108, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        I'd like to work with zas to set up something integrated with the other MeB projects on the shared Grafana, so this is just a prototype really :)
      • 2017-07-10 19122, 2017

      • Freso
        I feel like ditching Docker is the wrong way to go, if we're using Docker for literally everything else.
      • 2017-07-10 19136, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        Everything else is a lot more complicated to deploy without Docker
      • 2017-07-10 19146, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        BookBrainz is about 5 steps
      • 2017-07-10 19125, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        It was a ticky decision but one that can always be unmade when we decide another way
      • 2017-07-10 19127, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        *tricky
      • 2017-07-10 19146, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        Anyway next I'll be looking at improving our select inputs across our editing pages
      • 2017-07-10 19147, 2017

      • LordSputnik
        fin. :)
      • 2017-07-10 19131, 2017

      • lazka joined the channel
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      • LordSputnik
        yvanzo, alastairp - one of you go :)
      • 2017-07-10 19131, 2017

      • Freso
        I don't think either is around.
      • 2017-07-10 19139, 2017

      • Freso
        ruaok: OpenSCORE dedication!
      • 2017-07-10 19113, 2017

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MetaBrainz meeting agenda: reviews, OpenSCORE dedication (ruaok), Changing the default font for MeB websites (samj1912) [next week: pruning old account privs (Freso)]
      • 2017-07-10 19114, 2017

      • ruaok
        right, so we need to provide some text as to to whom we wish to dedicate our sponsoring of the openScoring of Beethoven's fifth.
      • 2017-07-10 19139, 2017

      • ruaok
        given that we're quirky and a bit troublemakers, I wanted to get a quick feel for how y'all feel about this:
      • 2017-07-10 19106, 2017

      • ruaok
        "MetaBrainz will never give you up, never let your data down. We will never run around and desert your privacy. Our UX will assuredly make you cry, but we're never gonna say goodbye!"
      • 2017-07-10 19115, 2017

      • ruaok
        :-D
      • 2017-07-10 19131, 2017

      • ruaok
        Too much? about right? I think we can all work on the exact wording to be better, but...
      • 2017-07-10 19158, 2017

      • ruaok
        hmm, ok.
      • 2017-07-10 19109, 2017

      • Freso feels it's a bit too much :/
      • 2017-07-10 19112, 2017

      • ruaok
        if you feel this is really STUPID and CHILDISH. Say TACOCHIPS.
      • 2017-07-10 19121, 2017

      • darwin has left the channel
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      • ruaok
        if you think this is fun and we should do something like this say: APPLEFRITTER
      • 2017-07-10 19131, 2017

      • ruaok
        go!
      • 2017-07-10 19142, 2017

      • ruaok
        APPLEFRITTER
      • 2017-07-10 19157, 2017

      • ruaok
        if you are not paying attention say nothing.
      • 2017-07-10 19103, 2017

      • Quesito
        i think it's brilliant but....feel we need to up our game....TACOCHIPS
      • 2017-07-10 19109, 2017

      • ruaok
        if you want to abstain, say CHEESECAKE.
      • 2017-07-10 19114, 2017

      • Freso
        CHEESECAKE
      • 2017-07-10 19135, 2017

      • ruaok
        very little feedback. ok.
      • 2017-07-10 19140, 2017

      • ruaok
        Quesito and I will take it from here.
      • 2017-07-10 19146, 2017

      • ruaok cackles and evil laugh
      • 2017-07-10 19149, 2017

      • ruaok
        -d
      • 2017-07-10 19152, 2017

      • ruaok
        Freso: back to you
      • 2017-07-10 19110, 2017

      • Freso
        samj1912: Changing the default font for MeB websites
      • 2017-07-10 19133, 2017

      • agentsim
        bonus points if you can fit an EEE-C alliteration in there :)
      • 2017-07-10 19136, 2017

      • samj1912
        So, our current font render weirdly on linux screens
      • 2017-07-10 19123, 2017

      • samj1912
      • 2017-07-10 19101, 2017

      • Freso
        Is anything wrong/off in the font other than lowercase i's?
      • 2017-07-10 19123, 2017

      • samj1912
      • 2017-07-10 19127, 2017

      • samj1912
        Freso: nope nothing else
      • 2017-07-10 19158, 2017

      • ruaok
        samj1912: this is a really touchy subject and we had professional help to get this taken care of.
      • 2017-07-10 19120, 2017

      • ruaok
        if you want to make a chance, you'll need to figure out what to go and ensure it looks better.
      • 2017-07-10 19129, 2017

      • ruaok
        and you better own a fire retardant suit.
      • 2017-07-10 19135, 2017

      • Freso
        samj1912: Do you have a replacement ready that looks about the same but has the i's fixed?