#metabrainz

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July 31st 2017

      • ruaok has an update to push to the LB server, but it keeps being busy.
      • ruaok
        good problem to have. :)
      • iliekcomputers
        :)
      • ruaok
        my export works. thanks iliekcomputers!
      • Quesito
        ruaok: still in metro, will be 5-7 minutes behind
      • ruaok
        aight. my blankie can wait that much longer.
      • Freso
        CatQuest: You need to use your MusicBrainz/MetaBrainz/ListenBrainz username and the special key provided on ListenBrainz as password.
      • CatQuest: If you go to https://listenbrainz.org/user/import at the bottom there's a "User token". That's what you should use as password for the Scrobble API (and generally when authenticating via user/pass against LB).
      • Quesito
        Lol. Elevatoring
      • CatQuest
        I'll try this freso!
      • Freso
        CatQuest: Also, is "user scripts" supposed to be an agenda item tonight?
      • CatQuest
        .. yes?
      • well
      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MetaBrainz meeting agenda: reviews, user scripts wikipage (CatQuest)
      • someting aobut it
      • wait what did you change?
      • Freso
        I changed | to , and added your name.
      • CatQuest
        hm
      • Freso
        | is used to separate sections in the topic and we use (name) to denote who is taking "the lead" on given items.
      • CatQuest
        ಠ_ಠ
      • Freso
        (Ie., "MetaBrainz Community and Development channel" (title) is a different section of the topic to "MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz" (additional info) which is a different section to "MetaBrainz meeting agenda: reviews, user scripts wikipage (CatQuest)" (meeting specific info).)
      • CatQuest
        well I didn't touch any | that wasn't there already, and I forgot (or didn't think) to put my name. you don't need to explai nthings that straightforward to me. i'll ask if i don't understand.
      • ok? :)
      • well anyway. 3 or so hours 'til the first meeting after summer! 😄
      • anyway I have missed you freso, and reosarevok too!
      • CatQuest ponders if hell be her at meeting too
      • he'll
      • Freso
        I'm around, just stressing over moving.
      • CatQuest
        aww, don't stress. lsiten to some panter mambo :D
      • (wich opefully i cna now show on my profile if the thing works)
      • Freso
        (Which I should be continuing packing for instead of sitting here.)
      • CatQuest
        try it with pomodoros?
      • well my special homebrews version: set it t o25 or 15 min or some interval that fits you,
      • then if it rings and you're in good work just keeo working.
      • if it rings and oyu're just goofing of or doing something else, take a "official" breka doing something else you like for 20 minutes or 10 or something. when *those* are up. then GO.Back..to:work
      • works for me :D
      • .. it may be based on kuno's idea of it too tho, orget
      • alas, no works
      • (the listening)
      • Freso: should i not use api.listenbrainz.org as url? :/
      • Freso
        CatQuest: No clue.
      • CatQuest tries restarting
      • CatQuest
        :(
      • woa lightning
      • shit i clicked the wrong import button. sorry :[
      • I'm going ot just use soem ad blcok to block that button in the future. since i don't need that
      • Gentlecat
        ferbncode: https://github.com/metabrainz/critiquebrainz/pu... doesn't depend on MB-related test updates anymore, right?
      • psolanki is now known as Guest90498
      • CatQuest
        ruaok: did i fuck up everything by accidentally alpha importing? :/
      • ruaok
        you were able to ?
      • CatQuest
        iwell i saw the button nad it said the message about "in a que"
      • after i refreshed it said it was sucsessfull
      • but i don't see any difference at all
      • ferbncode
        Gentlecat: yes, #122 does not depend on the test related code
      • Gentlecat
        ok, I marked one that does with a label
      • let me know if I missed anything
      • CatQuest
        kinda need help in spanish/catalan
      • ferbncode
        Gentlecat: okay, and that's the only one depending on the test related code.
      • CatQuest
        if I understand correctly this existed before Andreu Turon guy made changes..
      • however you could maybe argue that the changes person made where what basially made the isntrument wht it is so he "invented" in that
      • how there was pino-like instruments before cristofoldi "invented" the piano, which he was inspired by and made the piao upon, but he still invented it
      • or? is it not that?
      • reosarevok: halp
      • github
        [critiquebrainz] gentlecat opened pull request #139: Update JS dependencies (master...node) https://git.io/v74Lr
      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: it existed and he made updates
      • Whether that counts as a different instrument I can't tell
      • CatQuest
        sweet
      • ok cna i jsut run by yo uwhat i've written and cna you compait that with the aritcle (the spanish or catlonian or whatever) and tell me if i understood well enough or if there are osme glaring rrors
      • reosarevok
        Freso/ruaok: "I'm on a ship! I did support only this week since I was still in the Azores, getting home tonight very late and catching up with stuff during this week"
      • (I probably won't be around for the meeting since see above)
      • CatQuest
        just 2 minutes? 🙇
      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: I can take a quick look
      • CatQuest
        but yay for being on a ship! \o/
      • see pm
      • reosarevok
        While I wait for my ship :D
      • Ok
      • CatQuest
        yay :D
      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • The Spanish page credits Ventura
      • CatQuest
        ?
      • the catalan page uggests he commissioned it, if i understand correctly
      • (but that it isn't sure)
      • reosarevok
        Oh
      • Yeah
      • That bit is a bit confusing
      • CatQuest
        especially if you don't speak the language and use google translate :P
      • like me :P
      • reosarevok
        But from what I get from both pages, the current tenora is probably worth considering a different Instrument anyway
      • CatQuest
        hmmmm
      • there is no info on the original one thoguh?
      • reosarevok
        Developed from the xirimia or chirimia or whatever we have
      • CatQuest
        what i get is that the tenor swam was the original that was edited by the guys
      • tenor swam
      • chirimia is a mexiacna deriwant of the swam again (possibly evne *of* this spesific isntrument given mexico and this is spanish)
      • but the text in my pasted part on the pm (as to not flood here with unecessary stuff)
      • did you get my pm
      • or should i paste it her eafter all
      • reosarevok
        It owes its name to the instrument from which it evolved, the tenor shawm
      • CatQuest
        yes
      • reosarevok
        Got it
      • CatQuest
        is cobla and sadana music or dance
      • ruaok
        sadana is a dance. sardana?
      • CatQuest
        sardana yea
      • maybe i'll jsut scip that part about it used in traditional coba and sardana
      • reosarevok
        Sardana and cobla are dances and the music for the dances
      • IIRC
      • CatQuest
        grrreat
      • iliekcomputers
        ruaok: see LB-197
      • BrainzBot
        LB-197: Only importing latest 50 scrobbles https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/LB-197
      • iliekcomputers
        That person imported from one lastfm ID and then the incremental import stops for the second last.fm id. Should we support multiple last.fm id's? (or the ability to reset the latest import time)
      • CatQuest
        same person could have severla last.fm profiles so maybe?
      • iliekcomputers
        Adding another option to the imports just makes it more complicated, though.
      • CatQuest
        true.. but
      • we could like.. say that "ok you can import from these two profiles, but then you have to accept that they are forever linked" or something...
      • so then the database considers these the same last.fm profile but with alais names or something
      • alias*
      • which might be useful to if people had their names altered
      • alternativly it could be useful to support this in case peopel in the future want to import from other palces like librefm or spotify
      • or even itunes or ipod listen things
      • eventually streamings also
      • where people could consivably have different names after all
      • would be cool if there was a way to make my sansa clip auto scrobble to listenbrainz :D
      • Freso
        It'd have to have internet connectivity to be able to do that. :/
      • CatQuest
        yea probably :/
      • Freso
        Are you using the native Sansa OS?
      • CatQuest
        yes
      • is ther e a way to root the sanas? wow
      • Freso
        Does that support scrobbling at all?
      • CatQuest
        no :(
      • Freso
        Well, I used Rockbox on mine: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaClip
      • CatQuest
        o yea it probably not works
      • holy hell
      • Freso
        (And Rockbox does support it.)
      • CatQuest
        hmm i have and older one thoghu, maybe the newer ones do support scrobbling?
      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MetaBrainz meeting agenda: reviews, user scripts wikipage (CatQuest), Summit (Quesito, ruaok)
      • Freso
        Probably wouldn't be "too hard" to make a Rockbox extension (or whatever they call it) for LB submission.
      • CatQuest
        Freso: The Clip+ has a square directional-pad control and a microSDHC slot, but retains the monochrome OLED display and mini USB connector of the original Clip. that is mine I think :o
      • neat!
      • Freso
        CatQuest: I'm pretty sure your model is exactly the same that I used to have.
      • CatQuest
        that's.. cool :O
      • Freso
        I think we compared them at one of the summits, before mine broke.
      • CatQuest
        I have bought way too many of it too. i atleast 5 times :/
      • Freso
        Or maybe I just looked at yours after mine broke.
      • CatQuest
        1-2 tiems i could replace becasue it was within the 2 year grace period but
      • i tihkn they broke becase i litterally overloade the software with too many songs :/
      • one i lost at the beach
      • and it was fairly new too, that sucked
      • i sohuld maybe have kept one or two of the broken ones becasue i could have sone something liek this with them.. but i had no idea yo ucould :/
      • hmm I still might have the original sansa clip that was grey with a round control.. somewhere
      • ruaok
        iliekcomputers: I think we should allow re-setting the import timestamps.
      • that is super easy and will re-import everything.
      • CatQuest
        so you can discard what was already importedand reimport everything? yea I can deff see the point in that :)
      • ruaok
        no.
      • so that the import re-starts from the beginning
      • CatQuest
        yea? if it doesn't discard duplicates beign re-importet fro mwhat it already has, thne everything will be double imported tho?
      • ruaok
        no
      • CatQuest
        nei vel
      • so it'sok with duplicates?
      • ruaok
        we throw out duplicates, so yes is that is fine
      • CatQuest
        😮
      • so then most if not all the already listens would be duplicates if you use the same source, meaning that it will discard "everything and use it fro mscratch" evne if it's not what actually happens... i guess
      • i mena, if *i* did this i'd have to -reimport over one nad a half million scrobbs. that's ok
      • but I would except those i already imported to be duplicates of the ones i'm importing now
      • unless i chose a different last profile of course
      • oh, is that what you meant
      • that would.. merge the two last fm imports then. yea thats cool
      • ruaok
        it would
      • CatQuest
        :D
      • iliekcomputers
        sounds good to me
      • Guest90498 is now known as psolanki
      • ruaok: since this would be a new feature, should I branch off master?
      • ruaok
        this is small and could/should be released soon. I would branch off production.
      • iliekcomputers
        okay cool, so big features off master and bugfixes and small things off production.
      • ruaok
        well said.
      • iliekcomputers
        :)
      • ruaok
        I'm currently branching spotify import off production, which may or may not be a mistake.
      • but it is largely new and independent code
      • iliekcomputers
        maybe it should be off master then
      • ruaok
        probably. but, it shouldn't touch much other code, it won't matter much.
      • rdswift
        Here is a git branching model that I've used on projectrs and it has served me well in the past. I think it's pretty close to what you're doing, but provides a documented model so that everyone on the programming team is generally folowing the same model. I am NOT trying to tell you how to manage your projects, just offering a documented option. http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branchin...
      • CatQuest
        so.. 5 minutes?
      • samj1912
        Yo
      • Freso
        <BANG>
      • Hi people.
      • samj1912
        o/
      • psolanki
        Hi
      • Freso
        reosarevok says «I'm on a ship! I did support only this week since I was still in the Azores, getting home tonight very late and catching up with stuff during this week»
      • Or said.
      • Anyway.
      • psolanki! Go!
      • psolanki
        ok
      • This was a slow week for me
      • Made some progress on the frontend part
      • Still have to complete a lot
      • Fin. next?
      • Freso
        psolanki: Did you get the evalution in in time?
      • psolanki: Pick one!
      • ruaok
        everyone did.
      • psolanki
        Oh yes. Last day
      • Freso
        🙌
      • psolanki
        samj1912: go
      • samj1912
        Yo
      • So I patched a couple of remaining bugs in the new json WS for picard.
      • CatQuest
        ...
      • samj1912
        And worked with chhavi_ on new ui for MB pages
      • And also researched on Elk stack for parsing and making visuals on MB logs
      • CatQuest
        wow, hella lag
      • ruaok notes that moose are far superiour to elk
      • but elg is rules all
      • samj1912
        That's it for me
      • ruaok: go
      • ruaok
        k
      • last week I spent traveling home and being sick.
      • Freso
        (People still up: Freso, bitmap, Gentlecat, zas, ruaok, Quesito, yvanzo, CatQuest, ListMyCDs, iliekcomputers, ferbncode; people maybe up (please confirm): LordSputnik, Leftmost, Leo_Verto, alastairp; anyone else?)
      • ruaok
        and pestering people to import into LB, which worked.
      • CatQuest
        being ick sucks
      • ruaok
        mid way through we got to 10M listens and made plans for promoting the test to beta.
      • and even that was quite a upgrade process, I was somewhat surprised as how complex the upgrade was.
      • but that worked and we doubled the number of listens with one blog post.
      • iliekcomputers
        22M now
      • :)
      • Freso
        :)
      • ruaok
        I'm hoping that the bigquery team will make the LB dataset live, so I can do the next blog post.
      • so, this will enabled everyone to make life queries against the data. which is pretty exciting, really.
      • I did a few other boring behind the scenes sort of things last week. that about rounds it out.
      • I wanted to take a moment to thank iliekcomputers and alastairp for being such excellent partner's in crime in this process.
      • yes, it took far too long.
      • but, I think we're come up with something that is a solid base for us to work with and I suspect that we should have some progress pretty fast.
      • exciting, for sure.
      • Freso
        Truly. :)
      • ruaok
        sadly, I do not see chhavi here -- I wanted to take a moment to introduce her to the rest of the team.
      • CatQuest
        \o/
      • ruaok
        samj1912 convinced her to pop in and help out with UX bits and she jumped right in.
      • CatQuest
        did we actually communicate to her the actual time?
      • Freso
        CatQuest: Yes.
      • CatQuest
        hmm
      • well, hopefully next time :D
      • ruaok
        she did a mock up that was... beautiful. it opened my eyes to what sort of problems we can solve with a proper UI/UX.
      • samj1912
        She slept just a few minutes ago
      • ruaok
        both Quesito and I are quite excited for this.
      • samj1912
        Link to the said mock up
      • CatQuest
        it's not bad , actually
      • loujine
        very nice
      • ruaok
        especially in light of the UX person whom we interviewed a couple of weeks ago.
      • Quesito
        super thrilled at a great start to UX!!!
      • ruaok
        she fell quite flat and was clearly not going to be a good fit for our team.
      • so chhavi is coming at the perfect time for us and I really hope we can convince her to help us with a lot more problems.
      • phew. fin.
      • Quesito!
      • Quesito
        hola!
      • so last week I was busy with supporter bits, we are getting a few researchers, and some nice possible connections to more non-profits
      • CatQuest
        oh?
      • naiz
      • samj1912
        \o/
      • Quesito
        and some food planning for summit