#metabrainz

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      • CatQuest
        yes
      • Freso
        Everyone good with 24 hours?
      • Leo_Verto
        I'd say that after 24 hours a newly added release shouldn't really be "owned" by a specific editor in the way it is just after creation
      • CatQuest
        1+ Leo_Verto
      • yvanzo
        Leo_Verto: destructive edits are not allowed for amending.
      • Freso would like to get to the last topic tonight, since it will be irrelevant next week
      • Freso
        Everyone good with 24 hours?
      • yvanzo
        +1
      • Leo_Verto
        maybe start with 12 and raise that value if necessary?
      • bitmap
        +1
      • to 1 day
      • CatQuest
        can we add some sort of flag or banner on 24hour less releases with "under consturction" or someting ot it :P
      • agree with leo
      • ruaok
        +1
      • Freso
        ruaok: For 24 hours?
      • Or for whatever?
      • CatQuest
        12 and see how it goes is fine by me
      • Freso
        yvanzo, bitmap: How do you feel about 12 hours to start with?
      • ruaok
        sorry, 24 hours.
      • yvanzo
        Freso: unnecessarily short, but it is better than current delay.
      • CatQuest: some sort of banner would be useful too, different issue though.
      • Freso
        I'm fine with whatever, ≤1 day and >1 hour.
      • Leo_Verto
        I'm also fine with 24
      • bitmap
        I prefer 1 day
      • Freso
        Alright. 24 hours seems agreeable.
      • Anyone against extending to 24 hours?
      • Leftmost
        Nope.
      • CatQuest
        not me
      • ruaok
        none
      • Freso
        Motion carried.
      • Freso: Google Code-in
      • CatQuest
        does removing relationships still count as destructive?
      • reosarevok
        I'd expect so, yes
      • Freso
        So, Google Code-in org. application has started!
      • CatQuest
        :c
      • yay!
      • reosarevok
        (we might want to change that later, but I think extending the non-destructive bits first is a good start)
      • Freso
        I will put in application for MetaBrainz immediately after tonight's meeting.
      • CatQuest
        (yes)
      • :O
      • Freso
        (Or at least start on it.)
      • reosarevok
        Yay
      • samj1912
        🎉
      • CatQuest
        i would say we have alright chances of getting in
      • Leftmost
        I'll add myself to the mentor list when I get to where I'm staying.
      • Freso
        For mentors from previous years, if you want to mentor again, please add yourselves to https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Google_Code-in/201... and poke me.
      • reosarevok pokes Freso
      • CatQuest pokes Freso
      • For people who want to be mentors, please read over https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Google_Code-in/2017 and Google Code/in's own documentation and then poke me about it.
      • yvanzo pokes Freso
      • CatQuest: We've already talked about you're already on the list...
      • CatQuest was just follow ing what reosarevok was doing
      • CatQuest
        sorry :P
      • poke conga-line
      • Freso
        We really, really, really need a lot more suggestions on https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Google_Code-in/201...
      • samj1912 tried to fill up picard as much as possible
      • CatQuest
        hmmmm am i allowed to add a "research and add a insturment suggestion on jira" suggestion?
      • Freso
        So please think about whatever things you're involved with related to *Brainz and see if there are any tasks that can be potential GCI tasks.
      • chhavi_ is gonna try to put some more design tasks as well
      • ruaok
        Leftmost, LordSputnik: We decided to use GCI for some BB tasks, yes?
      • Freso
        Remember that it's not just coding tasks ("CODE"), but also documentation/training, outreach/research, quality assurance (testing), and user interface(!!) tasks.
      • CatQuest
        like "d oas much research on an instrument that's not in the database, create a complete INST ticet with all necessary information
      • ruaok
        Which one of you two wants to take on the job of adding those to the wiki page?
      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: sounds fine to me I think
      • Leo_Verto
        chhavi_: maybe we could get students to draw even more mockups?
      • CatQuest
        neat :D
      • Freso
        ruaok: BB was the project with the 2nd most tasks done last year. They're pretty good at utilising GCI. :)
      • CatQuest
        how about "look into ou aprent/unlce /wahtever closet, fnd an old vinyl. add that
      • Leftmost
        I can add some, at least.
      • ruaok
        which is great, but there are no tasks in the list, so I wanted to nugde them.
      • or nudge even
      • CatQuest
        nude them?
      • Freso
        ruaok: Thanks. :)
      • samj1912
        Leo_Verto: I dont think new students will churn up good mock ups, since they dont know much about us
      • Freso
        CatQuest: Plz. >_>
      • samj1912
        although, not sure
      • CatQuest
        Freso: yes?!
      • Freso
        samj1912: It doesn't have to be good mockups, and we're not obliged to use them.
      • CatQuest
        (or was that a "pls shut up")
      • Freso
        samj1912: Could still be good similar to what she made us do at the summit.
      • CatQuest: No, it was to the "nude them". :p
      • samj1912
        yup
      • CatQuest
        :D
      • Leo_Verto
        might be good to get mockups from people who explicitly don't know a lot about MB :P
      • Freso
        ^
      • chhavi_
        Leo_Verto: We can think along those lines. Maybe not entire mockups, but say a popup/widget.
      • CatQuest
        good point Leo_Verto
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      • wat
      • ಠ_ಠ catcat...
      • Leftmost
        We didn't have good luck with mockup tasks in the past. I think they require a fair bit of effort and thought.
      • CatQuest
        I haven't see nany mockups other than chaavi moockups and kepsin ones that looked usefull
      • Freso
        I may or may not be talking in front of my old high school one of the coming Thursdays to try and get some more Danish teens involved in GCI.
      • CatQuest
        !m Freso
      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, Freso!
      • CatQuest
        well "will be doing" or not doing
      • chhavi_
        Leftmost: Yeah I am guessing so. This time maybe we can break design tasks into something more do-able :)
      • Freso
        If anyone of you are in good terms with your old high school, maybe they'd be interested in that too. :p
      • Anyway.
      • I think that was about all I had to say about this for now.
      • I will probably write something similar on the forums.
      • Oh!
      • Mentors!
      • I asked yesterday, but just to double check:
      • Any of you against using Google Hangouts for MeB mentor talk?
      • CatQuest shakes head
      • samj1912
        nopes
      • CatQuest
        i mena as long as the website *works* for me, but if it doesnt i'll use the other browser, becasue come on
      • Freso
        Wizzup, sampsyo ^
      • Btw.
      • sampsyo will join us again for MeB related beets tasks.
      • CatQuest
        :D
      • Freso
        And Wizzup will join us for MusicBrainz related tasks for whipper (the successor to morituri, a command-line *nix Python ripper).
      • Oh, it's 8 already.
      • Well then.
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      • Thanks for your time everyone!
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      • CatQuest
        \o
      • samj1912
        bitmap: is there a small test db dump of mb I could use for solr?
      • CatQuest
        i keep reading wizzcat when i see Wizzup, i am le confused
      • chhavi_
        Freso: When should we catch up for our JIRA+design conversation?
      • chhavi_ will like to get it done soon so that it's easier for GCI as well
      • reosarevok
        samj1912: not yet, but I've been asking for that too :P Want to make one? ;p
      • samj1912
        sure
      • I dont have the normal db dump though
      • reosarevok
        bitmap, make him do the work :p
      • samj1912
        and its too huge for me to download :v
      • reosarevok
        (I know bitmap has been working on that, but it's not finished yet)
      • Freso
        chhavi_: Tomorrow? When do you have time?
      • bitmap
        actually, let me see how complete the branch I had was
      • if it's almost done I'll just finish it today
      • CatQuest
        hey, if nayone wants me for anyting, now is the time, else i will have to leave
      • soon
      • Freso
        reosarevok, yvanzo, samj1912, LordSputnik: Can you send me your Google login you want to use for GCI (and hangout) to me? Either mail (freso@meb) or /query
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      • github
        [musicbrainz-server] mwiencek closed pull request #540: JSON dumps (master...json-dump) https://git.io/v5lky
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      • chhavi_
        Freso: Okay will ping you tomorrow then :)
      • Freso
        chhavi_: Between 12 and 17 CEST is good for me.
      • chhavi_
        okayy! :)
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      • Freso
        reosarevok, yvanzo, samj1912, LordSputnik: Actually, can you please send me an e-mail with your login? Since for now I can only add administrators, so I'll need to go asking for your mails again if we get accepted, so it's easier if I just have them in an e-mail I can look back to. :)
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      • Leftmost
        ruaok and chhavi_, Ben and I had discussed whether it would be a good idea to involve chhavi_ in putting together the editing pages and entity display for BB.