5:47 AM
Ashish_
Actually I cannot find that live release box there
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5:47 AM
Major_Lurker
so tell me where you are
2017-12-22 35625, 2017
5:47 AM
Major_Lurker
link
2017-12-22 35636, 2017
5:47 AM
Ashish_
I did got a 'video' check box but not live
2017-12-22 35656, 2017
5:47 AM
Major_Lurker
ah my mistake..... I had the wrong thing in my head
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5:47 AM
Ashish_
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5:48 AM
Major_Lurker
What I should have said was in the disambig on the recording put live
2017-12-22 35621, 2017
5:48 AM
Major_Lurker
then do the other things I said
2017-12-22 35627, 2017
5:48 AM
Major_Lurker
sorry for confusing you
2017-12-22 35641, 2017
5:48 AM
Ashish_
Ok will I remove Live then ?
2017-12-22 35645, 2017
5:48 AM
Major_Lurker
yep
2017-12-22 35658, 2017
5:48 AM
Ashish_
and then ?
2017-12-22 35612, 2017
5:49 AM
Major_Lurker
and then do the other things... save that with a note
2017-12-22 35620, 2017
5:49 AM
Major_Lurker
do all the recordings the same way
2017-12-22 35625, 2017
5:49 AM
Ashish_
ok
2017-12-22 35630, 2017
5:49 AM
Major_Lurker
go back to the release and edit it
2017-12-22 35640, 2017
5:49 AM
Major_Lurker
and remove the live from the tracklist
2017-12-22 35600, 2017
5:50 AM
Major_Lurker
come back when you are finished I will check it
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5:50 AM
Major_Lurker
and good on you for having a go
2017-12-22 35645, 2017
5:50 AM
Major_Lurker
don't worry of you make a mistake we can fix it
2017-12-22 35650, 2017
5:51 AM
Ashish_
ok done
2017-12-22 35653, 2017
5:51 AM
Ashish_
pls check
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5:52 AM
Ashish_
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5:52 AM
Major_Lurker
yah not quite right on the recording page in the disambiguation put "live" without the ""
2017-12-22 35607, 2017
5:53 AM
Major_Lurker
2017-12-22 35628, 2017
5:53 AM
Major_Lurker
and all the recordings the same
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5:56 AM
Ashish_
c i have done for two is that right ?
2017-12-22 35634, 2017
5:56 AM
Major_Lurker
yep
2017-12-22 35601, 2017
5:57 AM
Major_Lurker
can you see the difference on the release page?
2017-12-22 35606, 2017
5:57 AM
Ashish_
Some body named ModBot just added a note what does that mean ?
2017-12-22 35612, 2017
5:57 AM
Major_Lurker
ignore it
2017-12-22 35620, 2017
5:57 AM
Ashish_
yes i saw that grey live
2017-12-22 35640, 2017
5:57 AM
Major_Lurker
I approved all your edits, some of them probably clashed
2017-12-22 35622, 2017
5:58 AM
Major_Lurker
the advantage of doing it this way is say Hanne de Vries did a studio recording of the same songs
2017-12-22 35635, 2017
5:58 AM
Major_Lurker
And they turned out roughly the same times
2017-12-22 35605, 2017
5:59 AM
Major_Lurker
There would be arisk of the recordings being merged by somebody, when in fact they are 2 different recordings
2017-12-22 35615, 2017
5:59 AM
Major_Lurker
If that makes sense
2017-12-22 35624, 2017
5:59 AM
Major_Lurker
Now they can see that this one is live
2017-12-22 35638, 2017
6:01 AM
Ashish_
yes
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6:01 AM
Ashish_
so done now ?
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6:02 AM
Major_Lurker
looks done to me, well done.
2017-12-22 35625, 2017
6:02 AM
Ashish_
can I claim another task?
2017-12-22 35628, 2017
6:02 AM
Major_Lurker
In future if you have questions come over to #musicbrainz
2017-12-22 35636, 2017
6:02 AM
Major_Lurker
of course :)
2017-12-22 35637, 2017
6:02 AM
Ashish_
ok
2017-12-22 35659, 2017
6:02 AM
Ashish_
what is the difference between a normal & classical release
2017-12-22 35607, 2017
6:03 AM
Major_Lurker
and if I am not there jst ask your question and somebody will help (depending on the time of day)
2017-12-22 35616, 2017
6:03 AM
Ashish_
ya sure
2017-12-22 35637, 2017
6:03 AM
Major_Lurker
A classical release is a fair bit more involved.....different style guidelines to consider
2017-12-22 35654, 2017
6:03 AM
Ashish_
is the procedure same ?
2017-12-22 35600, 2017
6:04 AM
Major_Lurker
HAve a go at one if you want
2017-12-22 35630, 2017
6:04 AM
Ashish_
yes I am about to claim that task ; ) so asking
2017-12-22 35630, 2017
6:04 AM
Major_Lurker
2017-12-22 35656, 2017
6:04 AM
Ashish_
ok, is there any limitation on selection of album
2017-12-22 35601, 2017
6:05 AM
Major_Lurker
it is harder, you should expect that we will have to make a lot of changes to your original
2017-12-22 35621, 2017
6:05 AM
Major_Lurker
no limitation as long as it is a classical album and does not already exist
2017-12-22 35626, 2017
6:05 AM
Ashish_
oh
2017-12-22 35611, 2017
6:06 AM
Ashish_
ok if its harder then I'll give it a try anyways you are there to help :
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6:07 AM
Major_Lurker
excatly
2017-12-22 35607, 2017
6:07 AM
Major_Lurker
good for you
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6:07 AM
Major_Lurker
just don't do opera
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6:07 AM
Major_Lurker
ha
2017-12-22 35620, 2017
6:09 AM
Ashish_
ok
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6:09 AM
Ashish_
typical Indian Classical : 0
2017-12-22 35646, 2017
6:09 AM
Ashish_
: )
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6:10 AM
Major_Lurker
hmmm you need to show me what you have selected then before you do it
2017-12-22 35647, 2017
6:11 AM
Ashish_
c this
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6:11 AM
Ashish_
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6:13 AM
Major_Lurker
already exists
2017-12-22 35621, 2017
6:14 AM
Ashish_
ooh yes : (
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6:14 AM
Major_Lurker
has to be some new one, and not sure that would fit the guidelines of classical in the sense we are talking about
2017-12-22 35658, 2017
6:15 AM
Major_Lurker
for example we will be looking for something that ends up looking like this
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6:16 AM
Major_Lurker
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6:16 AM
Major_Lurker
have a read of the guidelines first
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6:16 AM
Ashish_
ok...
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Ashish_
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7:02 AM
Ashish_
Major_Lurker: R u there ?
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naiveai
Ashish_: and do not ask "are you there?" over and over. if you think someone has forgotten something, and it's been a long time (2 hours+), then ping them, but do not do it repeatedely
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7:06 AM
Ashish_
niveai: ok fine
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LordSputnik
naiveai: not sure about a dashboard, I think there are other things you could do on BB that we'd appreciate more at the moment :)
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9:26 AM
samj1912
ruaok: bitmap left SIR up and running all night, indexes are currently up to date with a delay of just 1 min :D
2017-12-22 35649, 2017
9:26 AM
ruaok
wooo, nice!
2017-12-22 35602, 2017
9:27 AM
ruaok
and the site didn't tip over coincidentally?
2017-12-22 35606, 2017
9:27 AM
samj1912
nope :P
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9:27 AM
samj1912
that was due to the earlier bugs
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9:27 AM
samj1912
I have been fixing a lot of them :P
2017-12-22 35641, 2017
9:27 AM
ruaok
well, mostly the problems we had were unrelated, no?
2017-12-22 35652, 2017
9:27 AM
samj1912
well someway or another
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9:28 AM
samj1912
they all happened due to pg
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9:28 AM
samj1912
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9:28 AM
samj1912
sir graphs for the past 12 hours, the peak is from when it processed 50k messages
2017-12-22 35653, 2017
9:28 AM
samj1912
and from then on I have kept it live processing messages
2017-12-22 35658, 2017
9:28 AM
samj1912
the impact is minimal
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9:29 AM
samj1912
same for solr
2017-12-22 35615, 2017
9:29 AM
ruaok
keep it going, keep following logs. add $500 to invoice.
2017-12-22 35619, 2017
9:31 AM
samj1912
the stats at RMQ
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9:31 AM
samj1912
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9:31 AM
samj1912
the failed part is due to another bug in indexing
2017-12-22 35645, 2017
9:31 AM
samj1912
I should be able to fix it later today
2017-12-22 35646, 2017
9:31 AM
ruaok
now I want to see an induced large change.
2017-12-22 35602, 2017
9:32 AM
samj1912
we did that last night?
2017-12-22 35606, 2017
9:32 AM
ruaok
on a non-production setup, try renaming JSB.
2017-12-22 35608, 2017
9:32 AM
samj1912
50k messages?
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9:32 AM
samj1912
oh
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9:32 AM
ruaok
:)
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9:32 AM
ruaok
50k messages needs to clearly not be an issue.
2017-12-22 35646, 2017
9:32 AM
ruaok
but passing JSB, even if it takes a few hours, it the real proof
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9:32 AM
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9:33 AM
samj1912
ruaok: for that I am working on a new queue setup
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9:33 AM
samj1912
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9:33 AM
samj1912
we talked about 2 instances right?
2017-12-22 35634, 2017
9:33 AM
samj1912
that's so large queries dont block smaller ones
2017-12-22 35640, 2017
9:33 AM
samj1912
I am currently working on it
2017-12-22 35641, 2017
9:33 AM
ruaok
yes.
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9:33 AM
ruaok
until two large queries block both.
2017-12-22 35654, 2017
9:33 AM
ruaok
then you need 3 instances.
2017-12-22 35656, 2017
9:33 AM
samj1912
nope
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9:33 AM
ruaok runs away
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9:34 AM
samj1912
that's not how it works :P
2017-12-22 35606, 2017
9:34 AM
ruaok
:)
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9:34 AM
samj1912
well, the large queries will be processed one by one by the large indexer
2017-12-22 35643, 2017
9:34 AM
samj1912
they will take longer to reflect, but should (in about 4 hours)
2017-12-22 35655, 2017
9:34 AM
samj1912
4 hrs = reindex time for recordings
2017-12-22 35654, 2017
9:35 AM
samj1912
considering that VA causes 2.5 recordings to be reindexed and we have 18 mill total
2017-12-22 35606, 2017
9:36 AM
samj1912
that should be about 30 mins to process
2017-12-22 35620, 2017
9:36 AM
samj1912
*2.5 mill
2017-12-22 35624, 2017
9:36 AM
ruaok nods
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9:37 AM
samj1912
basically, my proposed setup will pass everything through the normal node, if it encounters INDEX_LIMIT_EXCEEDED it will move it to seach.large a queue on which the other instance will be listening
2017-12-22 35647, 2017
9:37 AM
samj1912
the rest of the setup remains the same
2017-12-22 35614, 2017
9:38 AM
samj1912
the large instance will have a diff. config obviously
2017-12-22 35621, 2017
9:38 AM
ruaok
so, I'm seeing a pattern here that I used to believe in a quite a lot when I was less experienced.
2017-12-22 35635, 2017
9:38 AM
samj1912
?
2017-12-22 35659, 2017
9:38 AM
ruaok
I used to think that if I optimized for one special case that was on my mind, in the end that case never materialized.
2017-12-22 35606, 2017
9:39 AM
ruaok
or if it did, I expected it wrong.
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9:39 AM
samj1912
hmmm
