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      • HSOWA
        right
      • 2018-01-13 01314, 2018

      • HSOWA
        so again.. why do they need a different symbol ?
      • 2018-01-13 01337, 2018

      • Freso
        How else would you distinguish them from +s and -s?
      • 2018-01-13 01355, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        I mean, this would pretty much mirror MB votes: yes, no, abstain, no vote
      • 2018-01-13 01311, 2018

      • ruaok wasn't aware his opinion had been requested
      • 2018-01-13 01321, 2018

      • Freso
        ruaok: Not right now, sorry about ping. :)
      • 2018-01-13 01330, 2018

      • HSOWA
        in your case yo uand i would be +, reo would be - and ruaok and bitmap and yvanzo would have blank/* or whatever
      • 2018-01-13 01333, 2018

      • HSOWA
        🙇
      • 2018-01-13 01301, 2018

      • HSOWA
        Leo_Verto: yes!
      • 2018-01-13 01312, 2018

      • Freso
        HSOWA: Yes, so "+Freso, CC -reo *r_uaok, b_itmap, y_vanzo"
      • 2018-01-13 01330, 2018

      • HSOWA
        (and no vote is explisit by not beign isn the list /noth having voted.. or no?)
      • 2018-01-13 01342, 2018

      • Freso
        Implicit, but yes.
      • 2018-01-13 01302, 2018

      • HSOWA
        you mean +freso +cc -reo *riu * bit *yvan
      • 2018-01-13 01305, 2018

      • Freso
        No.
      • 2018-01-13 01320, 2018

      • HSOWA
        yes
      • 2018-01-13 01346, 2018

      • HSOWA
        it looks like i have a different vote than you in your example, sorry your format is confusing
      • 2018-01-13 01353, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        Maybe for the vote results spelling out the votes could also work?
      • 2018-01-13 01357, 2018

      • Freso
        "2+: Freso, CC; 1-: reo; 3*: r_uaok, b_itmap, y_vanzo" per naiveai's latest proposal.
      • 2018-01-13 01304, 2018

      • HSOWA
        that's what I was saying
      • 2018-01-13 01321, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        i.e. Yes: Freso, CC [new line] No: reo [new line] Abstain: ...
      • 2018-01-13 01333, 2018

      • HSOWA
        "for "against" and "abstain" are not that many glyps honestly
      • 2018-01-13 01339, 2018

      • HSOWA
        Leo_Verto: I like that :D
      • 2018-01-13 01356, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        but Freso's right, the counts are crucial
      • 2018-01-13 01310, 2018

      • HSOWA
        it include a number :)
      • 2018-01-13 01325, 2018

      • HSOWA
        2 for: so and so (newline) 3 agaisnt: so and so etc
      • 2018-01-13 01311, 2018

      • chhavi_
        [+3: Freso, reo, chhavi] [-2: sam, yvanzo] [/1: ruoak]
      • 2018-01-13 01321, 2018

      • HSOWA
        nice!
      • 2018-01-13 01324, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Sorry to barge in, couldn't stop myself!
      • 2018-01-13 01331, 2018

      • Freso
        chhavi_: ❤️
      • 2018-01-13 01338, 2018

      • Freso
        I like that way more than newlines.
      • 2018-01-13 01339, 2018

      • HSOWA
        not at all, I like it!
      • 2018-01-13 01357, 2018

      • HSOWA
        well I don't mind newlines
      • 2018-01-13 01301, 2018

      • chhavi_
        And as Freso said. !startvote !countvote !endvote
      • 2018-01-13 01304, 2018

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      • HSOWA
        it can be clearer, especially if we have more than 3-4 people per vote
      • 2018-01-13 01336, 2018

      • HSOWA
        like chhavi's format thoguh :)
      • 2018-01-13 01350, 2018

      • HSOWA
        and the use of / for abstain
      • 2018-01-13 01303, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        this is why it's so great to finally have an UX person around, even if it's for such simple stuff <3
      • 2018-01-13 01304, 2018

      • chhavi_
        And for voting , "+1" for, "-1" against, "/1" neutral
      • 2018-01-13 01314, 2018

      • chhavi_
        hehe, glad could help :)
      • 2018-01-13 01328, 2018

      • HSOWA
        +1 :D
      • 2018-01-13 01334, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        /1 might be a problem though, IRC clients tend to use / for commands
      • 2018-01-13 01342, 2018

      • HSOWA
        we should officially hire chhavi_
      • 2018-01-13 01342, 2018

      • HSOWA
        srsly
      • 2018-01-13 01345, 2018

      • HSOWA
        hmm
      • 2018-01-13 01348, 2018

      • HSOWA
        \1 then? :D
      • 2018-01-13 01353, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        like I just got "unrecognized command" when I tried to write that line without a leading space
      • 2018-01-13 01313, 2018

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      • 2018-01-13 01328, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Hmm.. Leo_Verto what else can we use? how about |
      • 2018-01-13 01331, 2018

      • HSOWA
        i'd agree with anything but * honestly as * to means "i've got a point/issue/apropos about this"
      • 2018-01-13 01348, 2018

      • HSOWA
        harder to type
      • 2018-01-13 01316, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        maybe % as in no answer?
      • 2018-01-13 01317, 2018

      • HSOWA
        also we should avoid ! or ? as those are commands/have specific meaning
      • 2018-01-13 01320, 2018

      • HSOWA
        hmmm
      • 2018-01-13 01322, 2018

      • chhavi_
        "1/1 for neutral"
      • 2018-01-13 01342, 2018

      • HSOWA
        now we're over thinknig it again
      • 2018-01-13 01302, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        clearly we need to do some A/B testing :P
      • 2018-01-13 01333, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Yeah should we try "\1" for neutral as of now? We can see if it is much trouble to a lot of people?
      • 2018-01-13 01346, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        yeah, won't be too hard to change anyways
      • 2018-01-13 01351, 2018

      • HSOWA
        yep
      • 2018-01-13 01301, 2018

      • HSOWA
        + - and \ works for me ;D
      • 2018-01-13 01318, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Cool. So let me sum up here for naiveai.
      • 2018-01-13 01335, 2018

      • chhavi_
        "+1" for, "-1" against, "\1" neutral
      • 2018-01-13 01348, 2018

      • chhavi_
        !startvote !countvote !endvote
      • 2018-01-13 01349, 2018

      • HSOWA
        anyway we should have a formal vote (using the bot?!) lter anyway :D
      • 2018-01-13 01306, 2018

      • chhavi_
        [+3: Freso, reo, chhavi] [-2: sam, yvanzo] [/1: ruoak]
      • 2018-01-13 01322, 2018

      • chhavi_
        See naiveai we decided :D
      • 2018-01-13 01339, 2018

      • HSOWA
        countvote or showvote?
      • 2018-01-13 01339, 2018

      • HSOWA
        :P
      • 2018-01-13 01331, 2018

      • HSOWA
        I still'd like to point out that 6< names should be on a new line regardless.. but
      • 2018-01-13 01331, 2018

      • HSOWA
        we can test it and see how it works either way!
      • 2018-01-13 01338, 2018

      • chhavi_
        HSOWA: let me get back to you. I will have to "OVERTHINK" it through. :p
      • 2018-01-13 01349, 2018

      • HSOWA
        chhavi_: oh also that a set time in addition to !endvote
      • 2018-01-13 01302, 2018

      • HSOWA
        :P
      • 2018-01-13 01333, 2018

      • HSOWA
        maybe overthinknig it through and then going back to simplicitly is a good work way :V
      • 2018-01-13 01338, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        eh, I'd say the timeout should be a config option maybe set to 10 minutes for a start
      • 2018-01-13 01303, 2018

      • HSOWA
        (i don't have a finger under chin pondering emoji handy)
      • 2018-01-13 01320, 2018

      • HSOWA
        a bit more than 10, we do'nt want it to time out while we're voting
      • 2018-01-13 01303, 2018

      • HSOWA
        ideally the vote should be !endvote'd, and a timeout be a precautiong against someone forgetting and 2 hoursl ater people saying +1 to something completely unrelated
      • 2018-01-13 01308, 2018

      • chhavi_
        I have a doubt. Person who starts the vote, only has the option to end it right?
      • 2018-01-13 01312, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        but when would we vote for more than 10 minutes? usually the voting starts after the discussion and is pretty quickly
      • 2018-01-13 01329, 2018

      • HSOWA
        hmmm
      • 2018-01-13 01332, 2018

      • HSOWA
        good point
      • 2018-01-13 01333, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        chhavi_: anyone can end it :D
      • 2018-01-13 01337, 2018

      • HSOWA
        and yes maybe that chhavi_
      • 2018-01-13 01344, 2018

      • HSOWA
        yea..
      • 2018-01-13 01353, 2018

      • HSOWA
        yea incase someoen gets logged out and what not
      • 2018-01-13 01335, 2018

      • HSOWA
        we're fairly good natured here. i don't forcee that someone would sabotage a vote by ending it prematurely
      • 2018-01-13 01352, 2018

      • HSOWA
        maybe accidentally by missunderstanding.. but
      • 2018-01-13 01301, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Then we have greater chances of blunder here I feel. I think the reason this discussion is running into blocks is, we don't have scenarios (use cases) in head
      • 2018-01-13 01308, 2018

      • HSOWA
        that could just as well happen to the initiall votestarter
      • 2018-01-13 01328, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        if someone decides to troll like that, just kick them and start a new vote
      • 2018-01-13 01304, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Or someone voting for the wrong poll, not knowing someone ended it already.
      • 2018-01-13 01305, 2018

      • HSOWA
        chhavi_: didn't we just have an impromptu vote about what to use as vote symbols? :p
      • 2018-01-13 01305, 2018

      • HSOWA
        exactly
      • 2018-01-13 01307, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        another situation might be that someone else starts the vote and Freso wants to end it at a certain point
      • 2018-01-13 01322, 2018

      • HSOWA
        it's easy and common not to have a poll too clsoe to another
      • 2018-01-13 01333, 2018

      • HSOWA
        yep
      • 2018-01-13 01341, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        do we need a command for withdrawing votes?
      • 2018-01-13 01303, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        or should people just override them with an abstain?
      • 2018-01-13 01313, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Your last vote, if different, overwrites the previous?
      • 2018-01-13 01328, 2018

      • chhavi_
        did naiveai open a ticket somewhere? we should put all this in one place.
      • 2018-01-13 01347, 2018

      • HSOWA
        override then with a nother vote automaticall i think
      • 2018-01-13 01357, 2018

      • HSOWA
        he had agithub thingy
      • 2018-01-13 01310, 2018

      • HSOWA
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      • HSOWA
        maybe we shoud lmake a ticket on jira for this
      • 2018-01-13 01330, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Yeah we should. easier for everyone to give feedback
      • 2018-01-13 01350, 2018

      • chhavi_
        HSOWA: should I?
      • 2018-01-13 01355, 2018

      • HSOWA
        yep!
      • 2018-01-13 01314, 2018

      • HSOWA has to go back to tasks and such :D
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      • chhavi_
        How do we attach chatlogs for reference? 🙈
      • 2018-01-13 01327, 2018

      • HSOWA
        link them :o
      • 2018-01-13 01356, 2018

      • HSOWA
        rhm.. go on the chatslogs and then on the gray timestam in the rightmost they are links use that
      • 2018-01-13 01327, 2018

      • chhavi_
        aaah, okay. thankks!
      • 2018-01-13 01349, 2018

      • HSOWA
        noprob
      • 2018-01-13 01356, 2018

      • chhavi_
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        MBS-9602: Brainzbot Plugin for Counting Votes.
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      • Leo_Verto
        That should be an OTHER ticket
      • 2018-01-13 01304, 2018

      • chhavi_
        Ohh I will change it.
      • 2018-01-13 01358, 2018

      • chhavi_
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      • Leo_Verto
        👍
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        «Although the release task was the most memorable, for me my favorite task was joining the weekly MetaBrainz meeting. It was the first meeting I was ever been a part of and I felt really “cool” being a part of it. It made me feel really a part of the MetaBrainz community, and everyone were so nice and friendly. It felt more like a meeting between a bunch of friends rather than that between mentors, students and co-workers and that
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      • Freso
        vibe was amazing.
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      • Freso
        It’s definitely an experience I would brag to my friends about. “Been a part of a MetaBrainz meeting on IRC” definitely has a cool ring to it.» ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
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      • chhavi_
        <3
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        Major_Lurker: «I honestly can’t thank you mentors enough, especially Mr. Andrew, who really helped me through all my tasks, and give me bonus tips to make them more perfect. I’ve learnt so much and really loved being a part of the GCI and MetaBrainz community.» :D
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        !m Major_Lurker
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        lol does anyone wantto join in and be some last-minute mentors?
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