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      • samj1912
        maybe users can opt into it to improve experience
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      • samj1912
        almost all the software I use has something like this
      • 2018-01-27 02711, 2018

      • zas
        yes, could be something to do, but imho not urgent
      • 2018-01-27 02739, 2018

      • samj1912
        yeah, just a proposal for gsoc maybe? (improve user logs, allow auto updates etc?)
      • 2018-01-27 02746, 2018

      • samj1912
        I believe we discussed this sometime
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      • zas
        yup
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      • samj1912
        basically better connectivity of picard users to us devs
      • 2018-01-27 02721, 2018

      • samj1912 still waiting on user stats for picard :P
      • 2018-01-27 02736, 2018

      • samj1912
        it would be nice to know how picard is used inthe wild
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      • zas
        well, it is used by more than enough people, what we lack are developpers, not users ;)
      • 2018-01-27 02733, 2018

      • samj1912
        hehe :P
      • 2018-01-27 02714, 2018

      • samj1912
        I personally think picard is one of the more attractive MeB projects, atleast for GSoC
      • 2018-01-27 02719, 2018

      • zas
        that said, about logging, we could improve that, using some existing logging modules
      • 2018-01-27 02750, 2018

      • samj1912
        yup
      • 2018-01-27 02750, 2018

      • zas
        i would like to be able to enable/disable debug logs for various parts more easily
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      • zas
        for now, i resort to grep, which works pretty well ;)
      • 2018-01-27 02758, 2018

      • samj1912
        I use sublime :P
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      • zas
        ok, i make a coffee, and back to addressing your comments
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      • zas
        please test carefully, especially the search dialog, i tried to make it usable
      • 2018-01-27 02747, 2018

      • zas
        about throttle it is just about making code less imbricated, i think it is a good move (less code per file)
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      • samj1912
        yup
      • 2018-01-27 02758, 2018

      • samj1912
        I agree
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      • zas
        about that, i was pondering splitting code of search dialog, one file per entity type (artist, track, release) and one common file with parent class
      • 2018-01-27 02721, 2018

      • samj1912
        hmm, makes sense
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      • samj1912
        there are other things that could be tidied up as well
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      • zas
        tons...
      • 2018-01-27 02745, 2018

      • samj1912
        moving all the entities to a parent `entity` module
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      • samj1912
        all the WS part to the WS module
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      • zas
        feel free to propose tidy up PRs before we release 2.0, after we'll be less able to move/rename things (the infamous non-existing API for plugins...)
      • 2018-01-27 02704, 2018

      • samj1912
        lol
      • 2018-01-27 02706, 2018

      • samj1912
        yes
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      • samj1912
        let me take a look at everything once
      • 2018-01-27 02729, 2018

      • samj1912
        it would also be nice to be able to make the scary parts of picard more organized
      • 2018-01-27 02708, 2018

      • vishalchoudhary[
        samj1912: zas when picard 2.0 is going to release?. Any expected date
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      • zas
        when it will be ready
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      • samj1912
        we are trying to get it ready before GSoC
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      • samj1912
        but no promises :P
      • 2018-01-27 02707, 2018

      • zas
        there are a bunch of issues to solve with most recent features merged, but yes, it would be ideal before the GSoC
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      • vishalchoudhary[
        Is there any issue i can work on..
      • 2018-01-27 02725, 2018

      • vishalchoudhary[
        Not much issues are there in jira.
      • 2018-01-27 02713, 2018

      • samj1912
        vishalchoudhary[: there are 490 unresolved picard issues on jira :P
      • 2018-01-27 02759, 2018

      • samj1912
        if you think they are invalid or not reproducible anymore you can help with triaging them
      • 2018-01-27 02701, 2018

      • vishalchoudhary[
        samj1912: :-(
      • 2018-01-27 02743, 2018

      • samj1912
        vishalchoudhary[: not kidding about the Q/A triaging part
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      • samj1912
        picard issue tracker could seriously use a clean up
      • 2018-01-27 02755, 2018

      • samj1912
        and yes, most of the imminent issues might be closed since I fixed about ~100 issues last year
      • 2018-01-27 02705, 2018

      • samj1912
        but I didn't dig deep enough
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      • vishalchoudhary[
        Ok i will search for imminent issues
      • 2018-01-27 02713, 2018

      • vishalchoudhary[
        I did but didn't find much.
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      • samj1912
        lol, we have come a long way if you can't break picard :P
      • 2018-01-27 02745, 2018

      • samj1912
        try harder ;)
      • 2018-01-27 02714, 2018

      • samj1912
        maybe use it and find unreported bugs
      • 2018-01-27 02734, 2018

      • samj1912
        there might be logical fallicies in the local cover art part
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      • samj1912
        that whole logic goes way above my heads
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      • samj1912
        there are too many corner cases
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      • vishalchoudhary[
        Ok thanks.. :-)
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      • samj1912
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      • BrainzBot
        PICARD-295: NTLM proxy authentication support
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      • vishalchoudhary[
        I will surely..
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      • samj1912
        you can also look into PICARD-306, 446, 232, 235,
      • 2018-01-27 02707, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        PICARD-306: Picard should consistently use the same method for duration calculation https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/PICARD-306
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      • vishalchoudhary[
        Ok thanku samj1912
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      • samj1912
        ruaok: I am not sure if it is feasible but would it be possible to have mutagen under the MeB GSoC umbrealla similar to how we have beets in GCI, would be nice to get lazka to mentor a task for adding various format supports to mutagen (in case he is willing to)
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      • samj1912
        this will also allow us to close some long standing picard tickets
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      • reosarevok finally documents the stuff yvanzo asked him to
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      • samj1912
        bitmap: did a git bisect
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      • samj1912
        this is the bad commit
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      • samj1912
        let me see what went amiss
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      • samj1912
        bitmap: now this is tough
      • 2018-01-27 02734, 2018

      • samj1912
        we would have to provide an extra SEARCH_SERVER_WS_1 or something for it to work
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      • samj1912
        and that would have to be pointer at search.mb
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      • samj1912
        solr isn't compatible with ws1 output
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      • samj1912
        let me know how you want me to fix this
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      • github
        [musicbrainz-server] samj1912 opened pull request #605: Fix WS/1 search (master...fixws1) https://git.io/vNMyh
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      • samj1912
        made a PR to fix it as per the current code though
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      • samj1912
        we will have to think about how to "fix" it in the long term however
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      • rdswift
        Why not finally retire WS/1?
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      • samj1912
        that is definitely an option
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      • samj1912
        but bitmap yvanzo and ruaok will know better
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      • rdswift
        I mean, it's been noted as being depreciated for years.
      • 2018-01-27 02710, 2018

      • samj1912 just noticed yvanzo isn't on irc
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      • rdswift
        Does it actually get much traffic?
      • 2018-01-27 02708, 2018

      • samj1912
        zas: ^ ?
      • 2018-01-27 02752, 2018

      • rdswift
        Anyway, it's not my call (and really none of my business). Sorry for butting in.
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      • reosarevok
        rdswift: it gets a fair amount of traffic, but since it's been deprecated for SEVEN YEARS, I think that might be droppable anyway
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      • SothoTalKer
        rdswift: this is an open community, you are entitled to have an opinion and you may voice it :D
      • 2018-01-27 02746, 2018

      • SothoTalKer
        if they listen to you, that's another case (:
      • 2018-01-27 02754, 2018

      • rdswift
        Yeah, but I didn't mean to contribute to the general noise. The MeB team already has things well in hand, and doen't really need additional babbeling from me. ;-)
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      • SothoTalKer
        i dont care :) if they dont want input the can tell me to shut up temporarily :D
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      • samj1912 doesn't mind comments from users and I don't think anyone in MeB does either, we generally respond to them in the best possible way we can
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      • samj1912
        SothoTalKer: yup :P
      • 2018-01-27 02707, 2018

      • SothoTalKer
        samj1912: did you see that mac user with that acoustid error from picard over in #musicbrainz? :)
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      • samj1912
        I did, no debug logs, so not sure if I can help much
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      • SothoTalKer
        oh the uploaded it to dropbox, but it does not contain anything useful, it looks like the old PICARD-706 showed up again
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      • BrainzBot
        PICARD-706: Fingerprint Submission Failes if AcoustID tags are present and/or invalid https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/PICARD-706
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      • samj1912
        SothoTalKer: you can just select the option to ignore existing acoustid fingerprints
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      • reosarevok
        SothoTalKer: when has telling you to shut up ever worked? :D
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      • reosarevok
        (but yeah, comments are good really)
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      • SothoTalKer
        reosarevok: it's only a temporary switch ;p
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      • SothoTalKer
        samj1912: he generates the acoustids in picard, i think. :)
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      • github
        [picard] zas closed pull request #810: Search dialog cleanup (master...search_dialog_cleanup2) https://git.io/vNKBi
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        metabrainz/picard#2945 (master - 45aaba7 : Laurent Monin): The build passed.
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        metabrainz/picard#2945 (master - 45aaba7 : Laurent Monin): The build passed.
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      • Freso
        Leo_Verto: Re: MusicBrainz bot frameworks, did you look at https://github.com/lalinsky/musicbrainz-bot (incl. forks/network!) for Python? There should be a Perl one somewhere too.
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      • CardinalWolseley
        SothoTalker: OK, that worked. But I see he's not there, so maybe I'll try and ping him tomorrow.
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