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      • iliekcomputers
        i'd be okay with dates around the same time as last year
      • 2018-03-12 07120, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        I think last time was a pretty good time of the year, great weather in BCN
      • 2018-03-12 07121, 2018

      • zas
        if we do it in BCN ofc
      • 2018-03-12 07132, 2018

      • samj1912
        BCN plz :3
      • 2018-03-12 07143, 2018

      • ruaok
        24th of sept is mercé.
      • 2018-03-12 07145, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        samj1912: 🤣
      • 2018-03-12 07159, 2018

      • ruaok
        zas suggested doing it in india. :)
      • 2018-03-12 07104, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        are there any convenient referendums this year?
      • 2018-03-12 07114, 2018

      • Freso would like to go to India :p
      • 2018-03-12 07116, 2018

      • ruaok
        who knows. :)
      • 2018-03-12 07117, 2018

      • zas
        yes ... but it looks like indians prefer it in EU
      • 2018-03-12 07128, 2018

      • samj1912
        despite the visa issues :P
      • 2018-03-12 07130, 2018

      • ruaok
        but sept 15 & 16 in BCN would be pretty easy.
      • 2018-03-12 07145, 2018

      • zas
        ok for me, but i want next one in India ;)
      • 2018-03-12 07148, 2018

      • ruaok
        and we know the routine how to deal with spain now, so...
      • 2018-03-12 07155, 2018

      • samj1912 wouldn't mind chicago or NZ either :P
      • 2018-03-12 07106, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        mid sept, I could probably have exams, maybe we should postpone this a bit, I'd like to take a look.
      • 2018-03-12 07111, 2018

      • ruaok
        NZ? jeez, all the way opposite to us.
      • 2018-03-12 07123, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        didn't we have a doodle for the date last year?
      • 2018-03-12 07126, 2018

      • ruaok
        29th, 30th?
      • 2018-03-12 07141, 2018

      • ruaok
        Leo_Verto: great idea, thanks for volunteering to set one up!
      • 2018-03-12 07148, 2018

      • zas
        ahah ;)
      • 2018-03-12 07151, 2018

      • Freso
        !m Leo_Verto
      • 2018-03-12 07151, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, Leo_Verto!
      • 2018-03-12 07153, 2018

      • ruaok
        15/16 and 29/30
      • 2018-03-12 07158, 2018

      • ruaok
        should be candidates.
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • Leo_Verto groans
      • 2018-03-12 07104, 2018

      • ruaok
        or 8/9 I suppose.
      • 2018-03-12 07110, 2018

      • ruaok
        Leo_Verto: you know this game by now.
      • 2018-03-12 07113, 2018

      • ruaok
        :)
      • 2018-03-12 07117, 2018

      • dpmittal joined the channel
      • 2018-03-12 07122, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        okay
      • 2018-03-12 07127, 2018

      • samj1912
        15/16 or later would be nice
      • 2018-03-12 07128, 2018

      • zas
        not 8/9, too soon, children go back to school etc...
      • 2018-03-12 07158, 2018

      • ruaok
        sounds like 29/30 might be good.
      • 2018-03-12 07105, 2018

      • Freso
        15/16 or 29/30 sound good to me.
      • 2018-03-12 07109, 2018

      • ruaok
        let's call that the tentitive date, skip the doodle and reconvene next week
      • 2018-03-12 07114, 2018

      • Freso
        👍
      • 2018-03-12 07119, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        29/30 would prolly work
      • 2018-03-12 07126, 2018

      • Freso
        zas: Picard beta releases!
      • 2018-03-12 07129, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        I'll confirm and get back, but should work.
      • 2018-03-12 07131, 2018

      • zas
        We'll release beta 2 this week, we need people to test and report issues (including related to packaging, win/mac), volunteers to help to debug on those non-free platforms are welcome...
      • 2018-03-12 07137, 2018

      • reosarevok
        Sigh, I wish y'all didn't make me go to Spain that often :p
      • 2018-03-12 07150, 2018

      • ruaok
        you can skip it again.
      • 2018-03-12 07118, 2018

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC https://goo.gl/7jsjG2 | Meeting agenda: Picard beta releases (zas), design ticket (chhavi_), MBS-1159 (reo)
      • 2018-03-12 07132, 2018

      • dpmittal has quit
      • 2018-03-12 07139, 2018

      • zas
        done, please think about installing / testing latest Picard 2 beta
      • 2018-03-12 07144, 2018

      • Freso
        Alright.
      • 2018-03-12 07145, 2018

      • bitmap
        btw, I was never able to figure out how to sign the mac app bundles :/ I can take another look if no one else did yet
      • 2018-03-12 07154, 2018

      • Freso
        chhavi_ went to bad, but samj1912 maybe: Design ticket?
      • 2018-03-12 07157, 2018

      • zas
        bitmap: ^^ yes please
      • 2018-03-12 07102, 2018

      • Freso
        *bed
      • 2018-03-12 07106, 2018

      • zas
        went too bad ? ;)
      • 2018-03-12 07121, 2018

      • Freso
        Yeah. I just can't keep up with her anymore. :'(
      • 2018-03-12 07134, 2018

      • Freso
        Or maybe not, reosarevok, MBS-1159 real quick? Or need more time?
      • 2018-03-12 07134, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-1159: Add support for 3-point relationships https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-1159
      • 2018-03-12 07148, 2018

      • samj1912
        yeah 1 sec
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • samj1912
        "Hello. Release group mockup is up here. Feedback, comments, chocolates welcome
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • samj1912
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9652: Redesign of "Release Group" Page
      • 2018-03-12 07106, 2018

      • reosarevok
        So, people in the style topic I mentioned earlier wanted us to wait for that to be implemented before we do it, so we can say X played Y in band Z
      • 2018-03-12 07146, 2018

      • reosarevok
        I assume it's actually not happening anytime soon (i.e. in years probably) and I should just override the request in order to get this change in in a reasonable timeframe
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • Freso
        (3 minutes left.)
      • 2018-03-12 07111, 2018

      • reosarevok
        But wanted to make sure if we have any sort of place for MBS-1159 in our future plans timeline
      • 2018-03-12 07123, 2018

      • reosarevok
        (to know what to tell them about it, mostly)
      • 2018-03-12 07125, 2018

      • CatQuest
        imho we don't have to wait but i also want 1159
      • 2018-03-12 07129, 2018

      • Freso
        bitmap, yvanzo, ruaok are likely the best ones to answer it?
      • 2018-03-12 07131, 2018

      • bitmap
        nothing currently planned
      • 2018-03-12 07132, 2018

      • CatQuest
        also I like obtext's point
      • 2018-03-12 07138, 2018

      • yvanzo
        not 2018 for sure
      • 2018-03-12 07139, 2018

      • reosarevok
        Well, everyone wants 1159, looking at the number of votes :p
      • 2018-03-12 07144, 2018

      • CatQuest
        yea
      • 2018-03-12 07148, 2018

      • CatQuest
        one thing tho
      • 2018-03-12 07149, 2018

      • reosarevok
        But then, that's been true for a while, so that means nothing
      • 2018-03-12 07156, 2018

      • CatQuest
        is that isntruments already *do* 3 poitn way sort of
      • 2018-03-12 07104, 2018

      • CatQuest
        and this woud lbe "isntrument artis release" jsut li kthat one
      • 2018-03-12 07109, 2018

      • CatQuest
        jsut in a backewards configuration
      • 2018-03-12 07113, 2018

      • Freso
        bitmap, yvanzo: But 2019 maybe? 2020? Or more like 2050?
      • 2018-03-12 07115, 2018

      • CatQuest
        so maaaybe not that difficult?
      • 2018-03-12 07119, 2018

      • bitmap
        but there was some discussion of how to fix relationships years ago, I'll have to dig up the proposed schema
      • 2018-03-12 07132, 2018

      • bitmap
        2019 maybe?
      • 2018-03-12 07138, 2018

      • yvanzo
        that might be n-arity relationships
      • 2018-03-12 07151, 2018

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Does that work for you?
      • 2018-03-12 07157, 2018

      • reosarevok
        Sure
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • Freso
        Alright!
      • 2018-03-12 07107, 2018

      • Freso
        Thanks for your time everyone!
      • 2018-03-12 07111, 2018

      • Freso
        </BANG>
      • 2018-03-12 07113, 2018

      • CatQuest
        so we have to wait a year for MBS-1159 ?
      • 2018-03-12 07113, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-1159: Add support for 3-point relationships https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-1159
      • 2018-03-12 07116, 2018

      • CatQuest
        :/
      • 2018-03-12 07121, 2018

      • CatQuest
        aw well
      • 2018-03-12 07124, 2018

      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: well this year is design
      • 2018-03-12 07130, 2018

      • CatQuest
        psh
      • 2018-03-12 07130, 2018

      • reosarevok
        I'm not expecting 1159 before 2020 :p
      • 2018-03-12 07131, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        thanks Freso :)
      • 2018-03-12 07132, 2018

      • samj1912 is hoping we switch back to DST soon
      • 2018-03-12 07134, 2018

      • reosarevok
        (if ever)
      • 2018-03-12 07140, 2018

      • CatQuest
        wat
      • 2018-03-12 07146, 2018

      • CatQuest
        so we're not doing MBS-1159
      • 2018-03-12 07148, 2018

      • reosarevok
        It's basically New-NGS for our rels, it's a huge change
      • 2018-03-12 07155, 2018

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC https://goo.gl/7jsjG2 | Meeting agenda: Reviews, summit dates (Leo_Verto/ruaok)
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • CatQuest
        or wait i've been linknig the wrong thing always
      • 2018-03-12 07108, 2018

      • bukwurm
        Thank you too Freso
      • 2018-03-12 07111, 2018

      • Freso
        samj1912: The 26th CET will be CEST. :)
      • 2018-03-12 07111, 2018

      • reosarevok
        Oh you mean the groupings thing?
      • 2018-03-12 07112, 2018

      • CatQuest
        I mean the thingy
      • 2018-03-12 07113, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        ruaok: seems like the ftp sync isn't working because of this
      • 2018-03-12 07114, 2018

      • CatQuest
        yes!
      • 2018-03-12 07117, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
      • 2018-03-12 07118, 2018

      • reosarevok
        Nah I'll just override that complaint and add it anyway probs
      • 2018-03-12 07126, 2018

      • CatQuest
        sorry _-_
      • 2018-03-12 07127, 2018

      • reosarevok
        But I'll think about it for a bit :)
      • 2018-03-12 07134, 2018

      • Freso
        (So the meeting will be an hour earlier.)
      • 2018-03-12 07147, 2018

      • Freso
        But next meeting is still "winter time".
      • 2018-03-12 07148, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        restarting sshd-musicbrainz-fullexport would register the service with consul, yes?
      • 2018-03-12 07157, 2018

      • akhilesh
        !m Freso
      • 2018-03-12 07157, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, Freso!
      • 2018-03-12 07158, 2018

      • CatQuest
        can't we have the meeting the same time always instead
      • 2018-03-12 07104, 2018

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC https://goo.gl/7jsjG2 | Meeting agenda: Reviews, summit dates (Leo_Verto/ruaok), DST notice (Freso)
      • 2018-03-12 07123, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        CatQuest: the earlier timings make it a bit more convenient for us :P
      • 2018-03-12 07129, 2018

      • bukwurm
        LordSputnik: ping
      • 2018-03-12 07131, 2018

      • CatQuest
        sure no argument there
      • 2018-03-12 07137, 2018

      • CatQuest
        i used to think the old time was too late too
      • 2018-03-12 07150, 2018

      • Freso
        CatQuest: The meeting *is* "the same time always" for people in Europe/EU.
      • 2018-03-12 07155, 2018

      • CatQuest
        it was mostly for USians
      • 2018-03-12 07105, 2018

      • CatQuest
        so in norway it was kinda late
      • 2018-03-12 07111, 2018

      • CatQuest
        for you in india its mad!
      • 2018-03-12 07117, 2018

      • CatQuest
        so earlier time is great
      • 2018-03-12 07133, 2018

      • CatQuest
        but I wish we'd have the same early time
      • 2018-03-12 07159, 2018

      • CatQuest
        Freso: you know i ignore the day light stupid time
      • 2018-03-12 07104, 2018

      • CatQuest
        :P
      • 2018-03-12 07135, 2018

      • Freso
        The rest of the EU may also soon.
      • 2018-03-12 07146, 2018

      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: It seems difficult to get it ready for Autumn 2018 schema change. Since many issues depend on it, it might be worth 2019.
      • 2018-03-12 07103, 2018

      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: sure, I already assumed this year wouldn't be the year :)
      • 2018-03-12 07111, 2018

      • Freso didn't keep up with what's happened about DST discussions in EU since getting rid of DST was "approved" by the parliament.
      • 2018-03-12 07159, 2018

      • Freso
        Already too many big(ish) projects happening this year. MBS-1159 should not be added on top of that.
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-1159: Add support for 3-point relationships https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-1159
      • 2018-03-12 07103, 2018

      • yvanzo
        Freso: That was a month ago, most probably nothing happened, as usual.
      • 2018-03-12 07138, 2018

      • Freso
        yvanzo: that might be why I haven't been able to keep up with it. :p
      • 2018-03-12 07124, 2018

      • Leo_Verto
        tbf that was a suggestion for member countries to get rid of DST
      • 2018-03-12 07106, 2018

      • Freso
        Right, so it's up to each state whether they want to or not? They're not going to make it an EU legislation via the commission?
      • 2018-03-12 07111, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        ruaok: the problem was because of a bad path and the sshd container not being restarted, it should work now.
      • 2018-03-12 07115, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        sending a PR.
      • 2018-03-12 07138, 2018

      • bukwurm
      • 2018-03-12 07138, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        BB-184: Display messages on how to correct invalid forms
      • 2018-03-12 07159, 2018

      • bukwurm
      • 2018-03-12 07100, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        BB-185: Display form submission errors without leaving the page
      • 2018-03-12 07101, 2018

      • CatQuest
        [21:04] * Freso didn't keep up with what's happened about DST discussions in EU since getting rid of DST was "approved" by the parliament.
      • 2018-03-12 07101, 2018

      • CatQuest
        :O
      • 2018-03-12 07102, 2018

      • CatQuest
        :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO