Might look to your autoeditor list as a starting point to identify the right personalities.
2018-05-21 14110, 2018
drsaunder
was hoping for a few specific people here to say i'm in
2018-05-21 14117, 2018
CatQuest
actually i thikn it might be fine. since as a mentee it might be ok to have a second oppinion and other people explianing things better
2018-05-21 14119, 2018
Freso
CatQuest: I don't think consistency is much of an issue.
2018-05-21 14122, 2018
CatQuest
i mena ,i work well with reosarevok
2018-05-21 14124, 2018
drsaunder
as well as a few others i know are down (like Major Lurker)
2018-05-21 14140, 2018
CatQuest
rdswift: hmmmmm
2018-05-21 14155, 2018
CatQuest
my experience form gci was:
2018-05-21 14103, 2018
drsaunder
will revise my proposal and I will include some specific alpha mentors and try to get everything ready as a ready to go proposal i think would be next step
2018-05-21 14116, 2018
CatQuest
we initially wanted to do that same thing (only one at a time) sicne we didn't wanted ot "opeverwhelm" students
2018-05-21 14130, 2018
CatQuest
but it eventualy was hat peopel wanted fedbakc asap rather thna *fro mthe same person*
2018-05-21 14134, 2018
Freso
drsaunder: Let's try and go with that then. :)
2018-05-21 14140, 2018
CatQuest
so they were usualyl happy with other peopel taking over
2018-05-21 14153, 2018
Freso
CatQuest: GCI is a contest where time actually matters. This isn't.
2018-05-21 14103, 2018
CatQuest
I mean, i think it's useful to have not liek 11 person on one newbie
2018-05-21 14108, 2018
drsaunder
rdswift: does that mean you would like to volunteer?
2018-05-21 14151, 2018
CatQuest
Freso, drsaunder: i problem is that: i'm afraid that I wont be able to respond in a timpyl manner, or be left with a situation wher i simply don't kno how ot repsond. i'defintily want ot hlep out and be guiding people
2018-05-21 14109, 2018
drsaunder
for timely manner we are talking weeks not days
2018-05-21 14110, 2018
yvanzo
I casually subscribe to beginners so as to “mentor” them, but it is not easy.
2018-05-21 14111, 2018
Leo__Verto
I'd love to be a mentor but as I mentioned last time, I don't think I could mentor classical
2018-05-21 14115, 2018
Freso
CatQuest: You can always ask for help, obviously, if you don't know how to reply to something.
2018-05-21 14117, 2018
Freso
Anyway.
2018-05-21 14117, 2018
rdswift
I'm not an AE, and not sure I've got enought knowledge, but I'd be willing to try if you think I could contribute.
2018-05-21 14124, 2018
Freso
It feels like this topic is somewhat stalling.
2018-05-21 14127, 2018
CatQuest
Freso: wel that's my exact point :)
2018-05-21 14146, 2018
CatQuest
I think having non-AE as mentors woudl also be very very beneficial
2018-05-21 14146, 2018
ruaok
agreed.
2018-05-21 14151, 2018
drsaunder
onkay FIN for mentorship i will get back to everyone next week or the week after
2018-05-21 14155, 2018
drsaunder
agreed also
2018-05-21 14158, 2018
Freso
drsaunder, can you «revise my proposal and I will include some specific alpha mentors and try to get everything ready»?
2018-05-21 14159, 2018
Leo__Verto
(how is rdswift not an AE yet?)
2018-05-21 14159, 2018
CatQuest
\o/
2018-05-21 14103, 2018
Freso
*[your]
2018-05-21 14106, 2018
drsaunder
this is different than autoeditor...different skills are required
i mena becasue not ae's will have a better view of how to do non-autoedits liek a newbies
2018-05-21 14128, 2018
ruaok
a kind of important concept about signing up volunteers....
2018-05-21 14145, 2018
bitmap
hi again (going to paste some stuff:)
2018-05-21 14150, 2018
CatQuest
hi!
2018-05-21 14156, 2018
bitmap
LordSputnik pointed out a problem with the api in MBS-9680, which is that if a user is renamed on mb, the downstream projects won't have the new name, thus can't be identified for deletion later
2018-05-21 14111, 2018
bitmap
BookBrainz stores the editor row ids, so we can work around the problem there (by sending the row id to /delete-user). iliekcomputers says the python projects don't have the ids (and if they relog it looks like it'll just create a new account?)
2018-05-21 14126, 2018
bitmap
3 solutions I see:
2018-05-21 14133, 2018
bitmap
(1) be careful to hand-update user names in other projects after we rename them in mb
2018-05-21 14138, 2018
bitmap
(2) add another endpoint to mb's sibling projects, /rename-user, that mb can ping
2018-05-21 14145, 2018
bitmap
(3) start storing editor row ids in the python projects
2018-05-21 14154, 2018
bitmap
thoughts? I'd like to decide what to do here so I can finalize the /delete-user api
bitmap: Did you see my message about acoustid.org and there possibly being other sites too?
2018-05-21 14141, 2018
bitmap
yeah, I did
2018-05-21 14142, 2018
ruaok
3 is the least long term complexity, with a more drastic short term consequences.
2018-05-21 14148, 2018
bitmap
I think it's another can of worms :)
2018-05-21 14151, 2018
LordSputnik
If you do 3, you can also update the editor name each time they log in, which is what BB does
2018-05-21 14152, 2018
Freso
Since MeB sites are not the only ones using MB OAuth authentication.
2018-05-21 14112, 2018
Freso
bitmap: Sure, but if it's only acoustid.org that's using MB OAuth in the wild, we can probably coordinate with luks too.
2018-05-21 14124, 2018
Freso
But if there are multiple sites, it may be more cumbersome.
2018-05-21 14155, 2018
yvanzo
(3) makes MB row id the new id over MeB projects?
2018-05-21 14102, 2018
bitmap
we can't really change what we return as the "sub" in the oauth endpoint (currently the user name), but we already include the metabrainz_user_id in the response
2018-05-21 14113, 2018
bitmap
so it's just up to those projects to make use of that
2018-05-21 14116, 2018
Freso
I don't know if there's a way to look up approved/stored OAuth tokens in the db to see if sites other than acoustid.org use them?
2018-05-21 14126, 2018
Freso
Right, okay.
2018-05-21 14159, 2018
LordSputnik
Note that the metabrainz_user_id field was only added in summer 2016
2018-05-21 14108, 2018
Freso
Like ruaok said, 3 seems to be the least pain long-term.
2018-05-21 14108, 2018
LordSputnik
So older projects will probably use the name
2018-05-21 14114, 2018
bitmap
it was probably a mistake to use the name as the sub, since it's suppose to be globally unique and never change
2018-05-21 14123, 2018
LordSputnik
(like acoustid)
2018-05-21 14146, 2018
Freso
Yeah. I think Gentlecat pointed that out a long time ago, which is probably why the _user_id was added.
2018-05-21 14146, 2018
bitmap
yep
2018-05-21 14152, 2018
CatQuest
what bitmap said
2018-05-21 14127, 2018
LordSputnik
Freso: it got added for BB :)
2018-05-21 14137, 2018
Freso
It looks like there's agreement that #3 is the way forward?
2018-05-21 14139, 2018
LordSputnik
3 sounds best to me
2018-05-21 14142, 2018
Freso
Or am I misreading things?
2018-05-21 14143, 2018
yvanzo
+1 (3)
2018-05-21 14144, 2018
bitmap
I agree (3) is the ideal solution, but as ruaok said, a lot more effort in the short term
2018-05-21 14152, 2018
Leo__Verto
+1 for (3)
2018-05-21 14108, 2018
ruaok
but this isn't the critical path for GDPR, so it is fine to let it run out a bit.
2018-05-21 14113, 2018
ruaok
as long as we stay on it.
2018-05-21 14114, 2018
CatQuest
best to do it properly once and have extra work once thnaot do soem shoddy work fast that breaks things later
2018-05-21 14128, 2018
CatQuest
yep
2018-05-21 14137, 2018
Freso
bitmap: Sound okay to you? :)
2018-05-21 14141, 2018
drsaunder
lol when has that happened before
2018-05-21 14152, 2018
bitmap
admittedly, it's not the most common scenario in the world for someone to rename their account and then delete it
2018-05-21 14102, 2018
bitmap
I think...
2018-05-21 14107, 2018
bitmap
Freso: sounds okay
2018-05-21 14107, 2018
CatQuest
i admit, I'm surprised it seems everyoen agrees
2018-05-21 14108, 2018
ruaok
lets do it right, regardless.
2018-05-21 14117, 2018
Freso
Alright. Let's move on then.
2018-05-21 14121, 2018
yvanzo
drsaunder: never ever
2018-05-21 14133, 2018
CatQuest
go us!
2018-05-21 14133, 2018
Freso
ruaok: gendered speech now, or should we do t-shirts and have more time for speech next week?
2018-05-21 14134, 2018
ruaok
bitmap: make a ticket about pestering python projects and assign to me please.
