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      • samj1912
        zas: thanks :)
      • 2018-06-18 16940, 2018

      • reosarevok
        I think we should have it, yes
      • 2018-06-18 16950, 2018

      • samj1912
        reosarevok: anything else that you are missing
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • samj1912
        I can add fields to the index, but I wont change the output schema
      • 2018-06-18 16912, 2018

      • reosarevok
        As everywhere else I meant consistent with the others, the least people need to remember the better
      • 2018-06-18 16918, 2018

      • samj1912
        okay
      • 2018-06-18 16911, 2018

      • reosarevok
        I think it's ok, but I'll actually start using beta and trying it properly and will tell you if I find something weird
      • 2018-06-18 16918, 2018

      • samj1912
        okay
      • 2018-06-18 16925, 2018

      • samj1912
        so just aliases on the addition list?
      • 2018-06-18 16927, 2018

      • samj1912
        nothing else?
      • 2018-06-18 16912, 2018

      • samj1912
      • 2018-06-18 16926, 2018

      • samj1912
        it was taking a lot of juice off sir
      • 2018-06-18 16939, 2018

      • samj1912
        zas: can you do grep -ic `discids:` for the week?
      • 2018-06-18 16957, 2018

      • samj1912
        I found 0 occurrences in today and yesterday
      • 2018-06-18 16927, 2018

      • samj1912
        I think it should be 0 across the week
      • 2018-06-18 16957, 2018

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox is now known as CatQuest
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      • zas
        2/546379252 .0000004%
      • 2018-06-18 16941, 2018

      • zas
        samj1912: ^^
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • samj1912
        thanks zas
      • 2018-06-18 16956, 2018

      • samj1912
        Mineo: in case you get a chance, can you take a look at https://github.com/metabrainz/mbsssss/pull/39/fil…
      • 2018-06-18 16903, 2018

      • samj1912
        any idea why there were so many stored fields?
      • 2018-06-18 16920, 2018

      • CatQuest
        I didn't even know you could do "search for barcode/someother not being there by doing "Barcode:-" or whatever. I didn't know that was a thing. "-barcode:*" does make a lot more sense. (fro ma totally not coder pov)
      • 2018-06-18 16903, 2018

      • CatQuest
        I'd except "barcode: -" beign about searching for a barcoe set as "-" tbh
      • 2018-06-18 16954, 2018

      • CatQuest
        (which, since we can't even have non-numeric barcodes in the first place, makes 0 sense)
      • 2018-06-18 16955, 2018

      • CatQuest
        or should that be NULL sense? ;))
      • 2018-06-18 16913, 2018

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC https://goo.gl/7jsjG2 | Meeting agenda: Reviews, Amazon cover art (Freso) | Quick Question about instrument ticket decisions (CatCat)
      • 2018-06-18 16905, 2018

      • CatQuest
        hm.tickets.meb.org is kidna slow right now..
      • 2018-06-18 16924, 2018

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      • yvanzo
        Leo__Verto: just sent
      • 2018-06-18 16945, 2018

      • Leo__Verto
        yvanzo, got it, thanks!
      • 2018-06-18 16930, 2018

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      • samj1912
        ruaok: reosarevok for each entity's mbid search, we have something like 'aid' for areas, 'arid' for artists 'reid' for releases, wouldn't it be better to switch all of them to a uniform `mbid` field?
      • 2018-06-18 16946, 2018

      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        or would you like both (as is the current case with solr, but it increases the index size)
      • 2018-06-18 16922, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
      • 2018-06-18 16927, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        ruaok: ^
      • 2018-06-18 16919, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        48 LB users have either deleted or renamed their accounts on MB.
      • 2018-06-18 16929, 2018

      • Freso
        samj1912: `discid:` may not be used often, but it may be something that some people rely on for some searches (e.g., "all CD releases by Amazing Artist that do not have discids" (can't think of any valid use cases not negating the discid though)).
      • 2018-06-18 16909, 2018

      • Freso
        More likely to have been deleted… iliekcomputers, do have access to e-mail addresses and can compare those?
      • 2018-06-18 16910, 2018

      • samj1912
        hmmm
      • 2018-06-18 16917, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        LB doesn't save anything but usernames rn.
      • 2018-06-18 16933, 2018

      • Freso
        samj1912: Also, changing all the `aid`, `arid`, etc. for a uniform `mbid` may improve consistency (to some degree- you can search for releases with RG MBIDs and RGs with release MBIDs, etc., so you still need non-`mbid` `*id` versions per-entity), but it will certainly break backwards compatibility much more than the `\-` syntax, no?
      • 2018-06-18 16957, 2018

      • ruaok
        48?
      • 2018-06-18 16901, 2018

      • Freso
        iliekcomputers: Do those 48 have any listens?
      • 2018-06-18 16923, 2018

      • samj1912
        Freso: yes, not talking about those
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      • samj1912
        I am just talking about area-aid, event-eid
      • 2018-06-18 16937, 2018

      • samj1912
        pairs like those
      • 2018-06-18 16953, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        yes they do.
      • 2018-06-18 16902, 2018

      • Freso
        samj1912: Yes, that is what "but it will certainly break backwards compatibility much more than the `\-` syntax, no?" was about. :)
      • 2018-06-18 16903, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        they do have listens, I mean.
      • 2018-06-18 16912, 2018

      • ruaok
        iliekcomputers: can you make a list of those 48?
      • 2018-06-18 16919, 2018

      • Freso
        Ha.
      • 2018-06-18 16935, 2018

      • samj1912
        hmm, true
      • 2018-06-18 16941, 2018

      • samj1912
        I guess I will leave it in
      • 2018-06-18 16941, 2018

      • Freso
        Cl�psHydra definitely exists. He's a regular on the forums.
      • 2018-06-18 16952, 2018

      • samj1912
        should I just remove `mbid` then?
      • 2018-06-18 16954, 2018

      • Freso
        Just seems like some UTF-8 misformatting.
      • 2018-06-18 16911, 2018

      • Freso
        (Should be an æ IIRC.)
      • 2018-06-18 16913, 2018

      • samj1912
        it isn't documented anywhere
      • 2018-06-18 16922, 2018

      • samj1912
        and seems like it was introduced in solr only
      • 2018-06-18 16931, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        hmm, there are two users with that problem: F�e Deuspi too
      • 2018-06-18 16954, 2018

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      • ruaok
        iliekcomputers: let's do this then: 1. make your script load an exception list where we can look up exceptions to skip. 2. sort out the encoding problem.
      • 2018-06-18 16922, 2018

      • ruaok
        then we can run the script and know that every user is getting properly managed.
      • 2018-06-18 16936, 2018

      • samj1912
        is the encoding problem due to printing it to console?
      • 2018-06-18 16939, 2018

      • ruaok
        and also, run delete_user for the accounts we no longer have.
      • 2018-06-18 16936, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
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      • samj1912
        ah, :\
      • 2018-06-18 16902, 2018

      • Freso
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9558: Normalise usernames for Discourse SSO
      • 2018-06-18 16934, 2018

      • Freso
      • 2018-06-18 16934, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9557: Disallow "special" characters for new accounts
      • 2018-06-18 16956, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        the encoding problem is old: CB-238
      • 2018-06-18 16956, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        CB-238: character-encoding error in usernames? https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/CB-238
      • 2018-06-18 16952, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        ruaok: the script already skips them well enough, we don't need to load them into a list.
      • 2018-06-18 16901, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        unless you mean something else?
      • 2018-06-18 16928, 2018

      • ruaok
        my point was to make sure that we don't miss anything new that might arise between runs.
      • 2018-06-18 16941, 2018

      • ruaok
        but we should hand check each of the 48 and make sure it is safe to skip them.
      • 2018-06-18 16937, 2018

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC https://goo.gl/7jsjG2 | Meeting agenda: Reviews, Amazon cover art (Freso), Quick question about instrument ticket decisions (CatQuest)
      • 2018-06-18 16951, 2018

      • iliekcomputers
        Would it be possible to check if a user with name "x" has been deleted in MB?
      • 2018-06-18 16952, 2018

      • ruaok
        I doubt it -- we don't store the original user name when we delete the account.
      • 2018-06-18 16929, 2018

      • Freso
        I think deleted usernames by users themselves get stored in a table for blocking future users from reusing the username, no?
      • 2018-06-18 16923, 2018

      • Freso
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9271: Prevent usernames from being reused
      • 2018-06-18 16932, 2018

      • ruaok
        sometimes, but that won't handle all the cases.
      • 2018-06-18 16941, 2018

      • ruaok
        but bitmap would be better to chime into this.
      • 2018-06-18 16944, 2018

      • bitmap
        yes, but that was only implemented recently so it won't cover all LB accounts
      • 2018-06-18 16959, 2018

      • bitmap
        also, when a user is renamed, we don't put their old name in that table
      • 2018-06-18 16911, 2018

      • Freso
        We can see how many of the 48 are in that table at least.
      • 2018-06-18 16934, 2018

      • bitmap
        skipping accounts that don't exist in mb anymore makes sense. the issue I'm not sure you'll be able to solve is: user A making an account, deleting it, then user B taking user A's name. in that case it'll still look like user A still exists, when in fact it's a different person
      • 2018-06-18 16956, 2018

      • ruaok
        well, it is a temporal problem.
      • 2018-06-18 16913, 2018

      • ruaok
        we'll need to propagate renames to the other projects as well.
      • 2018-06-18 16940, 2018

      • ruaok
        then once all other projects have IDs and names, then the problem goes away, no?
      • 2018-06-18 16957, 2018

      • bitmap
        yea, it will solve it for all future cases
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • Freso
        <BANG>
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • Freso
        It's the Magic Monday MetaBrainz Meeting Moment!
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • Freso
        People up tonight: Freso, reosarevok, bitmap, zas, ruaok, yvanzo, samj1912, iliekcomputers, rsh7, bukwurm, Leo_Verto, chhavi_, kartikeyaSh, CatQuest, dragonzeron – anyone else, please let me know ASAP.
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • Freso
        dragonzeron: Go!
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • Freso
        dragonzeron says:
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • Freso
        """
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • Freso
        I have been working on some new albums as well as removing wikipedia links and with that I was going to ask is it possible to look up removal of wikipedia links on types of edits cause I looked them up but I cant seem to find it directly unless its removing relationship in general so if its not a thing could we look into this
      • 2018-06-18 16907, 2018

      • Freso
        """
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      • Freso
        rsh7: Go!
      • 2018-06-18 16908, 2018

      • Freso
        rsh7 says:
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      • Freso
        """
      • 2018-06-18 16909, 2018

      • Freso
        Hi!
      • 2018-06-18 16909, 2018

      • Freso
        Last week I completed the work of importing the MusicBrainz metadata in acousticbrainz and worked on param's review and opened the PR's related to improvements in the code and would send the PR for the next work of updating the MB metadata in AB probably by tomorrow!
      • 2018-06-18 16910, 2018

      • Freso
        """
      • 2018-06-18 16919, 2018

      • CatQuest
        hi!
      • 2018-06-18 16935, 2018

      • Freso
        ruaok: Go!
      • 2018-06-18 16940, 2018

      • ruaok
        k
      • 2018-06-18 16940, 2018

      • chhavi_
        o/
      • 2018-06-18 16958, 2018

      • Freso
        (For some reason the last line didn't make the cut… maybe it'll randomly pop up again. If so, soz in advance.)
      • 2018-06-18 16925, 2018

      • ruaok
        last week's overhead nonsense: chasing payments, finding new insurance, wrangling documents from california to spain and other assorted BS.
      • 2018-06-18 16950, 2018

      • ruaok
        and I spent a fair amount of time thinking about and working on the new conflict resolution policy.
      • 2018-06-18 16905, 2018

      • ruaok
        we're a tricky bunch that requires some tricky thinking.
      • 2018-06-18 16910, 2018

      • CatQuest
        hm
      • 2018-06-18 16930, 2018

      • ruaok
        also, lots of backup sketching on the SOLR stuff as well as PR review for MSB and LB.
      • 2018-06-18 16903, 2018

      • ruaok
        and I spent tuesday installing a new door lock in the office. this one doesn't suck, is all scifi and will let us manage the summit easier.
      • 2018-06-18 16906, 2018

      • ruaok
        fin. CatQuest
      • 2018-06-18 16911, 2018

      • CatQuest
        :O
      • 2018-06-18 16913, 2018

      • CatQuest
        hi!
      • 2018-06-18 16918, 2018

      • Freso
        (CatQuest (and others): The conflict resolution policy is for staff/contractors - it doesn't involve volunteers/the wider community.)
      • 2018-06-18 16929, 2018

      • CatQuest
        right
      • 2018-06-18 16931, 2018

      • CatQuest
        In continuing my work with INST-647 et al. idiophones, This week I've done quite a lot more reordering.
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      • BrainzBot
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      • CatQuest
        I've deleted unnecessary links and added plucked idiophones and thus reordered stuff with the other idiophones.
      • 2018-06-18 16938, 2018

      • CatQuest
        Then there was https://community.metabrainz.org/t/drums-vs-drums… (which reosarevok might talk more about)
      • 2018-06-18 16938, 2018

      • CatQuest
        so with that I also added A FEW choice aliases to "Drumset" :​​D :https://beta.musicbrainz.org/instrument/12092505-6ee1-46af-a15a-b5b468b6b155/aliases
      • 2018-06-18 16955, 2018

      • CatQuest
        Then there was https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-371 which was a fustercluck of epic proportions..
      • 2018-06-18 16955, 2018

      • BrainzBot
        INST-371: ghaychak (two instruments?)
      • 2018-06-18 16956, 2018

      • CatQuest
        https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ghaych… was two instruments in one, and unrelated. So I proceeded to edit both
      • 2018-06-18 16956, 2018

      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        Wikipedia creating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghijak AND commons to organise links, "MusicBrainz var bare toppen av kransekaka!" as the norwegian saying (ifr, "top of the iceberg)
      • 2018-06-18 16957, 2018

      • CatQuest
        In that vein, I would really, really really appreciate if anyone speaking german could fix the german WP pages too: since While I could guess based on what I know in Norwegian, I really don't speak this language and I don't feel comfortable moving parts to a new page based on Google Translate and my "torsk" (tysk + norsk).
      • 2018-06-18 16901, 2018

      • CatQuest
        (The other page I'm certain is mixed is https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi%C5%9Fek is in Azerbaijani, if anyone knows it to feel comfortable in it :'D)
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      • CatQuest
        Finally any other of the linked wiki's in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1521728 anyone who speaks languages can confirm or deny they talk of both instruments or no, would be so much appreciated <3
      • 2018-06-18 16931, 2018

      • CatQuest
        Finn (the human :D)
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      • reosarevok
        SothoTalKer: work for you ^ re: German
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      • CatQuest
        next: reosarevok ?
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      • CatQuest
        SothoTalKer: yes please!
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      • reosarevok
        Hi!
      • 2018-06-18 16919, 2018

      • reosarevok
        This week I mostly edited and did support and helped CatQuest with drums
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      • reosarevok
        And samj1912 with search I guess :)
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      • CatQuest
        SothoTalKer: yes please!.d
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      • CatQuest
        erh