we get the community to downvote them and they are no longer shown.
2018-12-03 33716, 2018
reosarevok
They're still shown, just not by default
2018-12-03 33729, 2018
ruaok
yes, that's fine by me.
2018-12-03 33731, 2018
CatCat
that's tags though. anyone can add any tag to anything
2018-12-03 33739, 2018
reosarevok
Not fine by the non-nazi band, though :p
2018-12-03 33746, 2018
reosarevok
(that's the first thing I explained)
2018-12-03 33748, 2018
ruaok
I really dislike the idea of us going in and nuking people's tags.
2018-12-03 33750, 2018
CatCat
even like "musicbrainz are cunts" and thne it'll still *be* there
2018-12-03 33705, 2018
ruaok
unless the tags themselves are hate speech, we shouldn't remove them.
2018-12-03 33709, 2018
CatCat
no matter how many peopel downwote it
2018-12-03 33720, 2018
iliekcomputers
can we see who added the tags?
2018-12-03 33726, 2018
Freso
iliekcomputers: No.
2018-12-03 33743, 2018
Freso
Well, you could in the db I guess, but not anywhere in the interface.
2018-12-03 33750, 2018
iliekcomputers
maybe someone could reach out to them and ask them to reconsider...
2018-12-03 33756, 2018
CatCat
you used to. but that was nuce
2018-12-03 33757, 2018
ruaok
I'm in favor and adding a note to when you show all the tags.
2018-12-03 33703, 2018
reosarevok
I know who added this specific one (it's a nice person and I've written to them since I think it was an error)
2018-12-03 33703, 2018
CatCat
i bleive becaseu and i thikn it was part of it
2018-12-03 33712, 2018
yvanzo agrees with ruaok, we're not tag nazis ...
2018-12-03 33713, 2018
ruaok
"these tags were voted down for a reason. keep that in mind."
2018-12-03 33717, 2018
reosarevok
(but they might not even see it because they haven't been active in forever)
2018-12-03 33720, 2018
CatCat
becasue someoen told *mE* to undo soem tag i had doen sicne it was something they disagred with
2018-12-03 33723, 2018
reosarevok
ruaok: what about the ws?
2018-12-03 33733, 2018
ruaok
put the note in the docs.
2018-12-03 33750, 2018
CatCat
I think we shouldn't include -tagged things under a spesific treshold in the ws
2018-12-03 33758, 2018
ruaok
or don't return them by default and add a flag to return them.
2018-12-03 33712, 2018
reosarevok
I think we should, but I wouldn't mind sending them as "downvoted tags". Probably shouldn't change it in ws/2 though
2018-12-03 33713, 2018
CatCat
yes
2018-12-03 33722, 2018
reosarevok
Maybe somebody depends on them being sent with everything
2018-12-03 33725, 2018
reosarevok
Ok, that works for me. It probably won't work for the band, but :p
2018-12-03 33736, 2018
ruaok
yeah, changing the data returned by the WS is haaaaard.
2018-12-03 33753, 2018
reosarevok
They mentioned asking the BBC to remove the MB link from their profile, which I assume the BBC can't do even if they wanted to, but
2018-12-03 33716, 2018
Freso
I mean, right now the offensive tags are pretty hidden.
2018-12-03 33721, 2018
reosarevok
Sure
2018-12-03 33738, 2018
reosarevok
I do wonder if there's any legal worries about it though
2018-12-03 33740, 2018
Freso
Anyone visiting their page will specifically have to first go to the "Tags" page/tab and then click the "Show hidden" "button".
2018-12-03 33757, 2018
reosarevok
Can a band say that either MB or a specific MB user is being libelous because they are falsely calling them nazis?
2018-12-03 33734, 2018
ruaok
> I do wonder if there's any legal worries about it though
2018-12-03 33737, 2018
ruaok
I am not worried
2018-12-03 33725, 2018
reosarevok
Is there a limit where we would start worrying?
2018-12-03 33744, 2018
ruaok
if we get a cease and desist on it.
2018-12-03 33755, 2018
reosarevok
Wouldn't mind hearing from a lawyer at some point if there is a point where we are expected to remove a tag if someone asks
2018-12-03 33725, 2018
ruaok puts it on his list
2018-12-03 33750, 2018
reosarevok
Examples: this one, one where someone is outed as homosexual (whether true or not, unless publicly true)
2018-12-03 33710, 2018
reosarevok
Someone being tagged as, dunno, "criminal" or whatnot
2018-12-03 33758, 2018
reosarevok
Anyway, for now I guess I can tell the band that I did escalate as I said and got told that the current situation is considered good enough, but we'll add a note that says something about how downvoted tags are usually not considered correct
2018-12-03 33718, 2018
Freso
fin then?
2018-12-03 33740, 2018
reosarevok
I guess :) ruaok: does my last sentence sound like a sensible answer?
2018-12-03 33759, 2018
ruaok
yep
2018-12-03 33704, 2018
Freso
Alright then. No more items on this meeting's agenda. Thanks for your time everyone!
2018-12-03 33706, 2018
CatCat
not usually or usually not?
2018-12-03 33712, 2018
Freso
</BANG>
2018-12-03 33717, 2018
Freso
CatCat: Either works.
2018-12-03 33724, 2018
Mr_Monkey
Thanks Freso
2018-12-03 33724, 2018
iliekcomputers
thanks Freso
2018-12-03 33726, 2018
CatCat woudl use the former for some reason
2018-12-03 33732, 2018
CatCat
thank you freso
2018-12-03 33732, 2018
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC https://goo.gl/7jsjG2 | Meeting agenda: Reviews, Google Code-in (Freso)
2018-12-03 33708, 2018
CatCat
wait so. is it a thing for nazi bands to name themselves names that are the same as other, more popularly know things?
reosarevok: OK. I get it now. We need to have the rating UI on the entity page itself!
2018-12-03 33758, 2018
code_master5
What if user wants to write a review along with rating?
2018-12-03 33709, 2018
reosarevok
Then they should click Write a review :)
2018-12-03 33754, 2018
code_master5
reosarevok: Yeah! 😅
2018-12-03 33703, 2018
reosarevok
You could also have a small "Write a review" link under the stars I guess, depending how you show it - "Rate this artist/whatever {stars} or <a>write a review</a>"
