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ruaok
zas: our gcloud bill is now 1/3 of our hetzner bill. we should spend some time to review and see if we can turn off/delete unneeded stuff.
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iliekcomputers: I didn't finish the script -- a typically deceptively easy concept, but curl and wget were too smart/not smart enough.
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Mr_Monkey
Moin moin
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ruaok
moooooin!
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zas
ruaok: moooin
9:49 AM
about gcloud, yes, i'll check, i'm pretty sure we have unused vms (asked, not used)
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ruaok
9:50 AM
zas ^^
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zas
and we could move some stuff from gcloud to hetzner vms
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ruaok
I turned off one VM.
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and the replicated VM, I bet that is *never* used. we should stop the instance and see if anyone screams. :)
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zas
ruaok: i wonder is ircbots is used, it was meant to host ircbots, but i'm not sure the move was ever made. Leo_Verto ??
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musicbrainz-replicating-db-server-1 was meant for visualization stuff from loujine, but i think it's not used
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ruaok
agreed.
10:12 AM
I think now that we know how to open a certain port to VM machines, I think we should move this to a hetnzer cloud VM should we need it again.
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yvanzo
mo''in'
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ruaok
mo'in!
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yvanzo
zas: by the way, it would be nice to have something (at hetzner?) to setup irccat/webhooks
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zas
yvanzo: hetzner VM can be set up in few seconds, and is currently the best option costs-wise
10:14 AM
but what are the exact needs in resources ?
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yvanzo
not much, mostly having an open public port to receive notifications, and being able to connect to freenode
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zas
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does it require an https cert ???
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alastairp
I think I only mentioned irccat a few weeks ago
10:20 AM
oh, I see yvanzo's comment, yes zas that is irccat
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alastairp just finished docker upgrades
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sigh
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so glad I put the effort to configure ansible
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yvanzo
zas: yes, I can set it up, it looks like it requires an https cert.
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zas
yvanzo: i'm not sure it requires its own VM, it's just a relay, right ?
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yvanzo
right
10:24 AM
We can certainly put it along with BrainzBot
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or do you mean in a docker container (on williams for instance)?
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reosarevok
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BrainzBot
MBS-9276: Transient test failure in Edit::Instrument::Merge
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reosarevok
I keep hitting it recently
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amCap1712
hi all
11:14 AM
I had a query. Kotlin provides some optimization and less verbosity than Java. Both are interoperable in the same project. Is it alright to use Kotlin in conjunction to Java?
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alastairp
amCap1712: I don't see a problem with using Kotlin
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I understand that you can combine java and kotlin code in the same project, and even in the same source file
11:18 AM
?
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amCap1712
not in same source file as of yet but planned for future releases.
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alastairp
OK, but I think that's fine
11:19 AM
Google seem to be pushing Kotlin as a first-class language in android, so it seems OK
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amCap1712
👍
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alastairp
is there any problem with older android targets? (what is the minimum API version you are targeting?)
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amCap1712
no at compile time it is ported to java
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at the end kotlin is transcompiled to run in jvm
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CatQuest
indians: pls help me, what language is "raga pancham kosh, alap, johr,raga malkauns" ?
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want to make sure I don't select "hindi" if it's actually "urdu" f.ex
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iliekcomputers, amCap1712, chhavi_
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amCap1712
I thinks its Hindi
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12:18 PM
CatQuest:^
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CatQuest
it's rudra veena music so :D
12:18 PM
probably
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amCap1712: I can't watch youtube videos here rightnow
12:18 PM
i'll jsut take your word for it :)
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amCap1712
does MB have a different language called Hindustani?
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CatQuest
hm
12:19 PM
i don't think so?
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amCap1712
then hindi
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CatQuest
reosarevok ^^
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amCap1712
For your reference, there is a 2 hour lecture on each of the raga you mentioned
12:20 PM
CatQuest
ooh interesting. ill chek ut out later
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amCap1712
on youtube
12:20 PM
CatQuest
i borrowed fro mthel ibrary this ustad ZM dagar 1 hour rudra veena ragas
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it's great music
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so now i am adding it to mb
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reosarevok
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amCap1712
Yes
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CatQuest
haha
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reosarevok
(which is why we don't have it)
12:21 PM
They do have "Caribbean Hindustani" though! :D
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CatQuest
I have severe issues with how we do languages thati think we need to fix at soem point
12:21 PM
wat
12:21 PM
ok that sounds awesome
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CatQuest imagines some kidn of "mon" type accent