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      • iliekcomputers
        Yay, I got a shout out :D
      • 2019-09-28 27146, 2019

      • Freso
        :)
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      • CallerNo6
        alastairp, the secret to getting me to work on something is to use shaming and periodic pokes :-)
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      • iliekcomputers
        CallerNo6: wow, it's like you're me
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      • alastairp
        see, I'm only going to help with these projects if someone periodically pokes me :)
      • 2019-09-28 27142, 2019

      • CallerNo6
        noted
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      • iliekcomputers
        Shouldn't be a problem
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      • iliekcomputers
        I'll apply for a visa as soon as possible
      • 2019-09-28 27105, 2019

      • iliekcomputers
        I have a Irish visa rn
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      • reosarevok
        Can anyone write a prodding and shaming IRC bot?
      • 2019-09-28 27126, 2019

      • reosarevok
        Should this be a GCI project?
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      • CallerNo6
        Who was that talking about markdown at the summit just now? Was that reo?
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      • reosarevok
        That'd be me, yes
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      • CallerNo6
        Okay, good. *You* already know that you need to poke and shame me.
      • 2019-09-28 27158, 2019

      • reosarevok
        I do!
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      • CallerNo6
        My goal in life today wasn't to wake up at 4am, but I'm glad I did. watching the summit stream might be the poke I needed.
      • 2019-09-28 27104, 2019

      • alastairp
        aidanlw17: bluecerries? or plain?
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      • jwf
        CallerNo6++
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      • jwf
        Well, plusplus for watching the summit stream, hope you get some sleep soon ;)
      • 2019-09-28 27113, 2019

      • reosarevok
        jwf: rdswift might like a link to the running minutes
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      • jwf
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      • jwf
        rdswift: ^^
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      • reosarevok
        !m jwf
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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, jwf!
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      • rdswift
        Thanks.
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      • jwf
        Could someone swap minutes responsibility with me one more time on this topic? I'm trying to find a project that might be useful for this discussion…
      • 2019-09-28 27121, 2019

      • reosarevok
        jwf: sure I guess
      • 2019-09-28 27129, 2019

      • jwf
        reosarevok: Thanks!
      • 2019-09-28 27141, 2019

      • rdswift
        Requested permission.
      • 2019-09-28 27140, 2019

      • reosarevok
        jwf: can you make it view-all, even if it's edit-only-some?
      • 2019-09-28 27116, 2019

      • jwf
        Cool, I have access :)
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      • jwf
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      • jwf
        I also enabled public commenting
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      • pristine__
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      • jwf
        So if you are viewing, feel free to add a GDoc comment if something piques your interest
      • 2019-09-28 27143, 2019

      • pristine__
        alastairp: ^
      • 2019-09-28 27149, 2019

      • alastairp
        thanks!
      • 2019-09-28 27109, 2019

      • pristine__
        <3
      • 2019-09-28 27142, 2019

      • alastairp
        what's spark-full?
      • 2019-09-28 27152, 2019

      • reosarevok
        jwf: I only have comment access now
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      • rdswift
        jwf, works now. Thanks.
      • 2019-09-28 27100, 2019

      • alastairp
        reosarevok: yvanzo made it
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      • jwf
        reosarevok: Ackkkk. I'll poke
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      • alastairp
        I think it's on metabrainz org
      • 2019-09-28 27117, 2019

      • jwf
        reosarevok: I added you as an editor, hopefully fixed if you're signed into MeB.org account
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      • jwf
        I don't think there is a way to have multiple public permissions, i.e. whether someone has MeB account or is a randomo from the Internet
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      • reosarevok
        jwf: works thanks
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      • jwf
        Sweet
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      • jwf
        If anyone else needs edit access, see if you can add your account with edit access in the upper-right "Share" menu
      • 2019-09-28 27123, 2019

      • jwf
        dns[m] CallerNo6 rdswift: Oh hey, just saw y'all in the YT comment stream
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      • jwf
        :D
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      • pristine__
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      • BrainzBot
        LB-469: ListenBrainz-Labs- Splitting of date into training, validation and test set should be more logical and not intuitive.
      • 2019-09-28 27126, 2019

      • rdswift
        I wasn't sure whether it made more sense to post here or there.
      • 2019-09-28 27148, 2019

      • pristine__
        alastairp: have a look whenever you are free ^
      • 2019-09-28 27115, 2019

      • reosarevok
        rdswift: there might be easier because Freso follows it more, just that pinging is easier here :p
      • 2019-09-28 27122, 2019

      • reosarevok
        jwf: are you back to it?
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      • jwf
        rdswift: Freso prefers YT chat but it so happened that he was the one presenting
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      • reosarevok
        Or should I continue a bit more?
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      • jwf
        reosarevok: Yes I can swap back in if you prefer now
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      • rdswift
        Okay.
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      • reosarevok
        jwf: please :)
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      • jwf
        I was going to share this but it's probably not that useful, idk: https://pagure.io/basset
      • 2019-09-28 27158, 2019

      • Freso
        rdswift: Both work. If it’s something you want me to announce to the rest of the people here, the YT chat is better as I have that open pretty much constantly.
      • 2019-09-28 27139, 2019

      • Freso
        Anyone made a SpamBrainz GSoC ticket for Rob? If not, I’ll make it.
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: plz :)
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      • Freso
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      • BrainzBot
        OTHER-348: Add SpamBrainz to GSoC ideas
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: Also made a ticket for you.
      • 2019-09-28 27104, 2019

      • reosarevok
        Oh no
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      • Freso
        oh yes
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      • jwf
        iliekcomputers: Hope you don't get stuck waiting long!
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      • jwf
        Will try to keep up with live chat while Freso presents, pls ping me if you want to throw something into discussion!
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      • Freso
        jwf: Thanks. :)
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      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        this is the genre dataset that we created
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      • alastairp
        1900000 mbids
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      • alastairp
        4 sources
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      • pristine__
        alastairp: do link the papers we talked about yesterday, it can be a good start to widen perspective on recommendation toolkit/engine.
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      • alastairp
        intersection of recordings annotated by all 4 sources is about 200,000
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      • Freso
        alastairp: I don’t think he was/is watching currently.
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      • Freso
        alastairp: He’s watching again now. :)
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      • loujine_
        regarding userscripts we opened MBS-9500 two years ago
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9500: Integrating userscript functionalities in default user interface https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9500
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      • loujine_
        with a short list of candidates to integrate
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      • rdswift
        Documentation is a multi-stage process. Writing to clearly convey a concept / message, and presenting the written word such that people can easily find it and attractive enough that they'll read it. Two (or three) different skill sets.
      • 2019-09-28 27150, 2019

      • rdswift
        Having the coder responsible for updating the docs may not be the best solution. Typically coders are not great when it comes to writing good (easily understood) documentation.
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      • Freso
        But it’s better than having outdated documentation.
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      • Freso
        Which is the alternative and current reality.
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      • rdswift
        Thus the need to try to attach a documentation person (volunteer) to each project.
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      • Freso
        Which, as we discussed earlier, is too ephemeral to be a sustainable solution.
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      • Freso
        Oh, but that might have been during a break.
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      • Freso
        :x
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      • rdswift
        Sorry, I must have missed that part of the discussion.
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      • Freso
        Yeah, I think it was during a break where the sound was off.
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      • CallerNo6
        Maybe a more achievable first step is to make sure devs know that they're responsible for *flagging* areas where new/updated docs are needed.
      • 2019-09-28 27125, 2019

      • rdswift
        Perhaps there needs to be an overall "DocsBrainz" project, with someone who understands "technical writing" or has writing skills leading it?
      • 2019-09-28 27119, 2019

      • rdswift
        I nominate jwf. ;-)
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      • Pac23
        samj1912 can you help me fix the cant find remote ref production error ?
      • 2019-09-28 27106, 2019

      • Pac23
        i updated the update.sh file to build usiing py3
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      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        reosarevok:
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      • alastairp
        The section "To give an idea of the scale of the data, we report some statistics for the train datasets" is the best thing to download to get an overview of the genres
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      • SothoTalKer
        i wonder how you can take a subjective thing as a measurement ;)
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      • ruaok
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      • SothoTalKer
        now that's a lovely ring, there :))
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      • alastairp
        reosarevok: hay canela?
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      • reosarevok
        No sé, en breve te digo
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      • reosarevok
        alastairp: parece que no
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      • alastairp
        ok. I only have sticks, but I'll try and get some powder on the way tomorrow if something is open
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      • aidanlw17
        alastairp: are you coming to airbnb to cook in the morning?
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      • alastairp
        I plan to be there at 8:45
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      • alastairp
        We have all the stuff downstairs
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      • Freso
        jwf:
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      • Freso
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Also probably of not-quite-related interest: https://twitter.com/edsu/status/11779397917589217…
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      • Freso
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      • SothoTalKer
        well, one thing would be to implement a webchat to irc bridge :)
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      • Freso
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      • SothoTalKer
        yes, except that it would be linked from every page, like the forums.
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      • SothoTalKer
        an even better solution would be to provide our own, which behaves like a widget. dunno if that is possible
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      • SothoTalKer
        freenode webchat currently uses kiwi irc. it is possible to install a widget of that: https://kiwiirc.com/embedding
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      • jwf
        rdswift: Hahah, I have a lot of thoughts about documentation
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      • jwf
        I mean, generally
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      • Freso
        SothoTalKer: If only someone would make a ticket for adding such a link…
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      • Freso
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-10389: Add "Chat" or "IRC" link to footer
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      • SothoTalKer
        Chat is probably better than IRC :) playing around with the embedding links from kiwi irc might work good enough
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      • SothoTalKer
        alternatively there is qwebirc, python based webclient: https://github.com/qwebirc/qwebirc
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      • Freso
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      • FresoTest
        This is honestly a pretty good client.
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      • jwf
        Freso: Right? The Freenode webchat is redeemed somewhat :)
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      • jwf
        Neat page I accidentally found: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Special:Statistics
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      • SothoTalKer
        simple solution is just to use the iframe from the embedding site, the complex solution is to install our own kiwiirc instance