18:03 PM
alastairp
but yeah, normally you wouldn't just drop a new or improved dataset, it's normal to have something to show why it's better
2019-11-20 32401, 2019
18:04 PM
ruaok
got it.
2019-11-20 32406, 2019
18:04 PM
alastairp
if people use this for popularity, and we can show that there's an improved version, that'd be perfect
2019-11-20 32407, 2019
18:04 PM
ruaok
ok, I'll see what we can do.
2019-11-20 32411, 2019
18:04 PM
alastairp
cool
2019-11-20 32439, 2019
18:04 PM
ruaok
I suppose we can ask gabriel about who is using it for what and see if we can find someone who might benefit from an improved dataset.
2019-11-20 32450, 2019
18:04 PM
alastairp
2019-11-20 32457, 2019
18:04 PM
alastairp
I'll keep my eyes out though
2019-11-20 32400, 2019
18:05 PM
ruaok
k
2019-11-20 32415, 2019
18:05 PM
alastairp
yeah, sure. I met him just a few weeks ago, I can definitely send him a message about it
2019-11-20 32423, 2019
18:05 PM
ruaok
please do.
2019-11-20 32455, 2019
18:05 PM
ruaok
also, did you ever get an answer from the other dataset people. I forget the acronym, but the "crawl the music web" people...
2019-11-20 32457, 2019
18:05 PM
alastairp
2019-11-20 32407, 2019
18:06 PM
alastairp
right - they weren't at ismir
2019-11-20 32411, 2019
18:06 PM
alastairp
so I'll email them
2019-11-20 32418, 2019
18:06 PM
ruaok
thx
2019-11-20 32428, 2019
18:06 PM
alastairp
Music Listening History Dataset Curation and Distributed Music Recommendation Engines Using Collaborative Filtering
2019-11-20 32429, 2019
18:06 PM
alastairp
P Singh, K Dutta, R Kaye, S Garg - Proceedings of ICETIT 2019, 2020 - Springer
2019-11-20 32430, 2019
18:06 PM
alastairp
ahem
2019-11-20 32444, 2019
18:06 PM
ruaok
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
2019-11-20 32412, 2019
18:07 PM
iliekcomputers
BRB, too embarrassed to talk
2019-11-20 32413, 2019
18:07 PM
ruaok
my reputation is being sullied.
2019-11-20 32424, 2019
18:07 PM
alastairp
looking at that scholar citations, there doesn't seem to be too much actually using this dataset
2019-11-20 32427, 2019
18:07 PM
ruaok
🤣
2019-11-20 32429, 2019
18:07 PM
alastairp
ruaok: that's 2 academic papers now
2019-11-20 32453, 2019
18:07 PM
ruaok
perhaps that is because of its inherent flaws. who knows...
2019-11-20 32406, 2019
18:08 PM
ruaok
we may make it more useful and spur more use.
2019-11-20 32424, 2019
18:08 PM
alastairp
nah, my gut feel is that it's because there are so many datasets, and no one knows what exists
2019-11-20 32433, 2019
18:08 PM
alastairp
it's way easier to make your own ds instead of using an existing one ;)
2019-11-20 32443, 2019
18:08 PM
alastairp
heck, we've announced 3 in the last 6 months or something
2019-11-20 32449, 2019
18:08 PM
ruaok
for listening data? that's easier to create than use?
2019-11-20 32415, 2019
18:09 PM
alastairp
no, just in general
2019-11-20 32433, 2019
18:09 PM
alastairp
so, in the case of listening data, you have to find the people who are interested in it
2019-11-20 32450, 2019
18:09 PM
alastairp
there wasn't really anything at ismir this year around this kind of data
2019-11-20 32454, 2019
18:09 PM
alastairp
people's interests are moving
2019-11-20 32400, 2019
18:10 PM
alastairp
*cough* deep learning *cough*
2019-11-20 32403, 2019
18:10 PM
ruaok
sounds like opinons are assholes... everyone has one, but no one like looking at the others...
2019-11-20 32415, 2019
18:11 PM
yvanzo
bitmap, reosarevok: around?
2019-11-20 32416, 2019
18:11 PM
alastairp
2019-11-20 32422, 2019
18:11 PM
alastairp
anyone want to go to Dublin next year?
2019-11-20 32426, 2019
18:11 PM
alastairp
iliekcomputers: ?
2019-11-20 32444, 2019
18:11 PM
bitmap
yvanzo: yup, just logged on
2019-11-20 32447, 2019
18:11 PM
iliekcomputers
I'm already in Dublin.
2019-11-20 32456, 2019
18:11 PM
yvanzo
bitmap: morning!
2019-11-20 32458, 2019
18:11 PM
alastairp
:D
2019-11-20 32415, 2019
18:12 PM
alastairp
iliekcomputers: OK, better that we find another conference then. after all, they're supposed to be excuses to travel
2019-11-20 32426, 2019
18:12 PM
iliekcomputers
Idk what IP bureaucracy I'll have to wade through to actually present though, lol.
2019-11-20 32436, 2019
18:12 PM
alastairp
ismir 2021 will be in bangalore
2019-11-20 32443, 2019
18:12 PM
ruaok
lolol
2019-11-20 32400, 2019
18:13 PM
alastairp
if you're not actually using data/resources from your company it shouldn't be too difficult
2019-11-20 32414, 2019
18:13 PM
bitmap
yvanzo: good morning, I'm planning on releasing beta now if nothing else is ready
2019-11-20 32421, 2019
18:13 PM
reosarevok
yvanzo, bitmap : with you very soon :)
2019-11-20 32447, 2019
18:13 PM
iliekcomputers
alastairp: Yep, that's what they tell me.
2019-11-20 32418, 2019
18:14 PM
reosarevok
We can wait for Grandpa with the works bit, so feel free to I guess
2019-11-20 32416, 2019
18:15 PM
bitmap
reosarevok: okay
2019-11-20 32402, 2019
18:18 PM
iliekcomputers
ruaok: do you think setting up some soft deadlines for stuff getting shipped would be a good idea?
2019-11-20 32412, 2019
18:18 PM
iliekcomputers
(for me)
2019-11-20 32422, 2019
18:18 PM
ruaok
we can do that. since it seems to motivate you.
2019-11-20 32452, 2019
18:18 PM
iliekcomputers
Last minute scrambles are my modus operandi, hey!
2019-11-20 32403, 2019
18:19 PM
iliekcomputers
No last minute, no work :D
2019-11-20 32414, 2019
18:19 PM
ruaok
no judgement. that is how most humans work.
2019-11-20 32440, 2019
18:19 PM
iliekcomputers
Right
2019-11-20 32450, 2019
18:19 PM
iliekcomputers
So I have two things on my radar right now.
2019-11-20 32457, 2019
18:19 PM
iliekcomputers
Master is very behind production
2019-11-20 32425, 2019
18:20 PM
ruaok
I need to dash out very soon, sorry.
2019-11-20 32432, 2019
18:20 PM
iliekcomputers
Oh
2019-11-20 32445, 2019
18:20 PM
iliekcomputers
No worries. I'll write something up then.
2019-11-20 32456, 2019
18:20 PM
ruaok
yea, send me mail and then I can have a ponder.
2019-11-20 32409, 2019
18:21 PM
iliekcomputers
👍🏽
2019-11-20 32415, 2019
18:24 PM
reosarevok
yvanzo, bitmap: now here
2019-11-20 32426, 2019
18:24 PM
bitmap
hey
2019-11-20 32450, 2019
18:24 PM
bitmap
any pr's you'd like to go over?
2019-11-20 32458, 2019
18:24 PM
reosarevok
I should rebase the other open genre PRs, I really want to get those in
2019-11-20 32400, 2019
18:25 PM
reosarevok
For Grandpa
2019-11-20 32447, 2019
18:25 PM
ruaok
grandpa?
2019-11-20 32438, 2019
18:27 PM
reosarevok
2019-11-20 32400, 2019
18:28 PM
ruaok
ah.
2019-11-20 32430, 2019
18:28 PM
alastairp
you're going to run out of sharks soon
2019-11-20 32445, 2019
18:28 PM
reosarevok
Yes, this is the last one D:
2019-11-20 32448, 2019
18:28 PM
reosarevok
We'll figure something out
2019-11-20 32413, 2019
18:29 PM
reosarevok
2019-11-20 32431, 2019
18:29 PM
alastairp
second cousin silvia's son no not that one the other one well his wife's aunt's ex husband shark
2019-11-20 32425, 2019
18:30 PM
reosarevok
:D
2019-11-20 32434, 2019
18:30 PM
yvanzo
alastairp: please don't spoil next milestones codename, thank you.
2019-11-20 32441, 2019
18:30 PM
ruaok runs off
2019-11-20 32443, 2019
18:30 PM
reosarevok
yvanzo: how's your react-table stuff?
2019-11-20 32449, 2019
18:30 PM
alastairp
I'm sorry, I didn't know it was a secret
2019-11-20 32452, 2019
18:30 PM
reosarevok
As opposed to reactable, that's in Barcelona
2019-11-20 32401, 2019
18:31 PM
alastairp
reosarevok: not any more! they shut down
2019-11-20 32414, 2019
18:31 PM
reosarevok
Oh no
2019-11-20 32417, 2019
18:31 PM
ruaok
really?
2019-11-20 32428, 2019
18:31 PM
reosarevok
What weird thing will Björk play now
2019-11-20 32450, 2019
18:31 PM
alastairp
yeah, it turns out that when your only market is museums and bjork, it's difficult to make money
2019-11-20 32452, 2019
18:31 PM
alastairp
or something
2019-11-20 32415, 2019
18:33 PM
reosarevok
ruaok: you're as bad as I am at running off :p
2019-11-20 32453, 2019
18:33 PM
yvanzo
reosarevok: I can update it, but it is still lacking types for the lib.
2019-11-20 32455, 2019
18:33 PM
reosarevok
2019-11-20 32413, 2019
18:34 PM
ruaok
reosarevok: turning spanish, slowly.
2019-11-20 32418, 2019
18:34 PM
ruaok
I even own a puffy jacket now.
2019-11-20 32432, 2019
18:34 PM
_c1e0 joined the channel
2019-11-20 32434, 2019
18:34 PM
reosarevok
Oh no. And long trousers?
2019-11-20 32400, 2019
18:35 PM
bitmap
I'd still just trim the end of the string
2019-11-20 32408, 2019
18:35 PM
ruaok
normal trousers, no.
2019-11-20 32416, 2019
18:35 PM
yvanzo
+1
2019-11-20 32416, 2019
18:35 PM
reosarevok
phew
2019-11-20 32421, 2019
18:35 PM
bitmap
how/when are all the annotations being converted to markdown? that sounds far away to me
2019-11-20 32427, 2019
18:35 PM
reosarevok
I dunno :)
2019-11-20 32433, 2019
18:35 PM
yvanzo
bitmap: about that time.
2019-11-20 32437, 2019
18:35 PM
reosarevok
I will make the change then
2019-11-20 32423, 2019
18:36 PM
yvanzo
reosarevok: I just mean: if you make changes that are kludges for the wiki formatter outside of it, comment it to make sure we don't keep it for markdown formatter.
2019-11-20 32437, 2019
18:36 PM
reosarevok
Ok :)
2019-11-20 32411, 2019
18:37 PM
c1e0_ has quit
2019-11-20 32415, 2019
18:39 PM
reosarevok
So basically something like
2019-11-20 32401, 2019
18:40 PM
reosarevok
# Not trimming starting spaces to avoid breaking list formatting - consider trimming again once this uses Markdown
2019-11-20 32401, 2019
18:40 PM
reosarevok
?
2019-11-20 32423, 2019
18:41 PM
yvanzo
yes
2019-11-20 32403, 2019
18:42 PM
reosarevok
Ok!
2019-11-20 32413, 2019
18:42 PM
yvanzo
Thank you!
2019-11-20 32406, 2019
18:44 PM
reosarevok
yvanzo, bitmap:
2019-11-20 32408, 2019
18:44 PM
reosarevok
2019-11-20 32412, 2019
18:44 PM
reosarevok
Just that seems enough then?
2019-11-20 32429, 2019
18:46 PM
bitmap
lgtm
2019-11-20 32403, 2019
18:50 PM
reosarevok
2019-11-20 32425, 2019
18:50 PM
reosarevok
(it can be for Grandpa, but it would be neat to merge some stuff already in preparation :) )
2019-11-20 32410, 2019
18:52 PM
bitmap
aight, I'll merge master into beta now so we can do that
2019-11-20 32414, 2019
18:53 PM
reosarevok
2019-11-20 32409, 2019
18:54 PM
bitmap
you can add one like confirm-va or something, it might be useful in selenium tests at least
2019-11-20 32429, 2019
18:56 PM
reosarevok
Ok, that one updated too
2019-11-20 32457, 2019
18:56 PM
reosarevok
2019-11-20 32421, 2019
18:57 PM
bitmap
looks that way :)
2019-11-20 32403, 2019
18:58 PM
bitmap
you can merge stuff into master now for grandpa tho
2019-11-20 32423, 2019
18:58 PM
bitmap
building beta containers
2019-11-20 32446, 2019
18:59 PM
reosarevok
Gaaah, selenium CI fails
2019-11-20 32446, 2019
19:03 PM
CatQuest
reosarevok: there's auntie shark ,and uncle shark and sister shark and brother shark, and coousin shark an...
2019-11-20 32430, 2019
19:05 PM
CatQuest
and country shark and metal shark and
2019-11-20 32438, 2019
19:05 PM
CatQuest
.. well idk
2019-11-20 32412, 2019
19:06 PM
reosarevok
All the sharks
2019-11-20 32459, 2019
19:06 PM
bitmap
deploying beta now
2019-11-20 32458, 2019
19:16 PM
BrainzGit
2019-11-20 32400, 2019
19:17 PM
BrainzBot
2019-11-20 32440, 2019
19:35 PM
reosarevok
bitmap: rebasing the genre PRs, I see you changed basically all of serializer XML (I had forgotten :p)
2019-11-20 32458, 2019
19:35 PM
bitmap
oh, heh
2019-11-20 32436, 2019
19:37 PM
reosarevok
Wanna help update it? :p
2019-11-20 32428, 2019
19:38 PM
reosarevok
$list_node just replaces \@list I guess
2019-11-20 32401, 2019
19:39 PM
reosarevok
Are $inc, $opts and $modelname and all that stuff no longer needed?
2019-11-20 32422, 2019
19:39 PM
reosarevok
And $gen?
2019-11-20 32449, 2019
19:39 PM
reosarevok
I'm not even sure what $gen was :D
2019-11-20 32401, 2019
19:43 PM
bitmap
$data, $gen in the args list are generally replaced by $parent_node
2019-11-20 32458, 2019
19:43 PM
bitmap
$inc, $opts weren't removed (but you might not need them in your function)
2019-11-20 32410, 2019
19:44 PM
reosarevok
So, does this look ok?
