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ruaok
reosarevok: agreed, but we're hoping to get there too
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reosarevok
If you want to do what we do, you should release every 2 weeks or 1 mo even if it's just one small patch :)
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ruaok
1 mo is what I would like.
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reosarevok
(tiny improvements > no improvements anyway!)
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iliekcomputers
reosarevok: how do you deal with incomplete stuff? Just not merge it?
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Like stuff thats basically done but has small things that need to be fixed
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ruaok
or "get this merged, so this PR can go away. smaller fixes PR coming very soon."
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reosarevok
Usually not merge it until it's fixed, but depends on what "fixed" means
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iliekcomputers
Yeah, I think that makes sense to me.
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reosarevok
Is it "this is an improvement but we could improve it even more with X"? Merge, send second PR
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ruaok
hmmm. maybe we should approve PRs and then make a new branch off the approved branch for the fixes PR
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reosarevok
Is it "this is kind of a mess but we can improve it"? Then fix before merge :p
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ruaok
but not merge into master until follow up PR is complete.
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iliekcomputers
Let's merge stuff to master only when we're completely ready to release it next cycle.
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ruaok
which is what I am trying with the lb-labs tests with pristine__ right now
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agreed.
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iliekcomputers
And aim for monthly releases?
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ruaok
oh, that brings about a natural next question: what is the least amount of stuff we need to do in order do do a release?
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that should inform the goal of our next release.
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iliekcomputers
I think having a schedule and not caring about the amount of work done is a better way to go here.
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ruaok
I dont think the two are mutually exclusive.
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iliekcomputers
Keeping goals independent of releases.
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ruaok
my point is more "lets not start more stuff, but push a release soon"
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iliekcomputers
That I agree with
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ruaok
that was my main point there.
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iliekcomputers
Hmm.
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ruaok
but lets just agree on the "if it aint release for release, do not merge to master" right now, shall we?
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iliekcomputers
+1
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ruaok
then we work towards the first release with the goal of soon thereafter doing monthly releases.
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iliekcomputers
Yep, sounds like a plan.
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ruaok
which also means that 1 release = 2 work periods.
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nice cadence, I think.
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iliekcomputers
So right now, I have two things incomplete.
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Stats and Incremental dumps
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ruaok ponders priorities
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Incremental dumps is a cron job that we can just stop until we get around to fixing it.
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So it isn't exactly blocking
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ruaok
what is the problem with the incremental dumps?
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how broken are they?
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iliekcomputers
There were some listens missing/more in a dump.
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ruaok
yes. anything else?
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iliekcomputers
That's it.
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ruaok
I mean, this is a needle in a hackstack problem, but just tyring to get the scope.
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iliekcomputers
Yeah
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I spent a few days looking at it
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But didn't really find anything
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ruaok
let take another evening and have you talk me through the process.
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iliekcomputers
Plus it's a PITA to debug because it needs actual dumps which are created really slowly.
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ruaok
and I'll look at code as we go. I think a second set of eyes might make this a lot easier.
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iliekcomputers
Yeah, having a new set of eyes on it would be good.
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++
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ruaok
I hear that -- the MSID mapping has been frustrating because each full run takes 1-2 hours.
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and there are a lot of little things to try -- at least now I can use partial data sets that run much faster.
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ok, lets plan to do that walk through in the comings days.
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user stats. lots of open items in the doc.
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shall we make a Week of Dec 16 section and start looking for things to toss in?
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iliekcomputers
Or put in trello?
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ruaok
I see bugs, completing features and needed features as three categories.
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my brainpower is dwindling TBH -- that flight home was rough.
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let's make a new section and then tomorrow I'll move them to trello.
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iliekcomputers
sure, sounds good.
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ruaok
(50 screaming teenagers caused 20 babies to freak out, causing teenagers to scream louder because they couldn't hear each other)
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I think I found a new worst case scenario for noise cancelling head-phones.
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iliekcomputers
if you want, we can just stop here. the process discussion was really helpful and I could easily prioritize work for these 2 weeks myself.
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noise cancelling headphones are ⭐⭐
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ruaok
that would be nice, but it feels incomplete to me. shall we do more tomorrow?
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and pick a time that is earlier?
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noise cancelling headphones were only so effective!
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SothoTalKer
but what about noise as music genre?
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iliekcomputers
hmm. sure! we can pick it up tomorrow. would 7-ish work?
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ruaok
might be closer to 8 for me, but round then, yeah.
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iliekcomputers
that works better for me too, tbh. :D
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thanks ruaok, the process discussion has been really helpful
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ruaok
for both of us!
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oh, did a new volunteer pop in over the weekend?
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if not, I'll follow up. did you see his email to support@?
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iliekcomputers
Don't think I did
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