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        Zastai: Haha. Gave it a realistic look :p
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        Good afternooon!
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      • zas
        @yvanzo @bitmap please check disk space on floyd
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      • zas
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      • zas
        currently 94% used, red zone
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      • bitmap
        zas: I'm looking
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      • bitmap
        zas: what backup machine should I move the 9.5 dir to?
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      • bitmap
        /var/log/messages needs to be truncated too, it's 44G
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      • bitmap
        pg sends all slow queries to syslog, so
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: seems sensible to me
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      • reosarevok
        They drop their over the top scheme, hopefully the publishers calm down, all good
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      • reosarevok
        I just hope they don't decide "well we're suing anyway, might as well try to get that site closed" :p
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      • ruaok
        yeah
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      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | GSoC students start here: https://bit.ly/2NUaxgb | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Meeting agenda: Reviews, MBS-10614 (reo)
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      • Z903
        Does anybody know where I can get a copy of the ova?
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      • reosarevok
        Z903: ... the ova?
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      • Z903
        ya, there was an ova published for musicbrainz-server
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      • reosarevok
        Oh
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      • Z903
        I am not sure if nobody is updating it but the ftp just points the the install instructions. ftp://ftp.musicbrainz.org/pub/musicbrainz/vm/
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      • reosarevok
        It's no longer used at all, we suggest using Docker instead: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Server/S…
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      • reosarevok
        Sorry, haven't used it in so long I forgot about it :D
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      • Z903
        Also the eu ftp seems to be out of date ie 2018 ftp://ftp.eu.metabrainz.org/pub/musicbrainz-vm/
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok, yvanzo: is there a reason we still have the old VM in the FTP?
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      • Z903
        I was hpoing to avoid using docker since I have a vm host already
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      • Z903
        It seems kinda pointless to use docker if im already using a vm
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      • reosarevok
        Sorry, but we don't maintain a separate VM install anymore since Docker is just what we use for our own stuff anyway :)
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      • reosarevok
        So it just maintains itself (and is generally easier / doesn't get out of date)
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      • Z903
        Guess Im going to learn docker today :p
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      • reosarevok
        Sorry!
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      • reosarevok
        But it honestly might take less time than to do all the upgrading processes for an ages-old VM anyway :)
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      • DjSlash
        docker runs just as fine on a vm
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      • ruaok
        reosarevok: because you haven't removed it yet?
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      • Z903
        I totally understand that docker has no issues in a vm, all i was saying was that it seems redundant. Since I am going to be spinning up an whole enviroment anyway.
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      • Z903
        Anyway thanks for the pointer, Your help has been awesome
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      • yvanzo
        Z903: fwiw, the ova was running docker anyway.
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      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: musicbrainz-docker doesn’t “maintain itself” and still needs manual updates so as to not “get out of date”.
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      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: there is no reason to keep the old VM in the FTP, I just forgot to remove it after updating docs, will do, thanks.
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      • Z903
        yvanzo the fact that your vm package just runs docker is hilarious
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      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: I meant that iirc we improve it just to improve MBS
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      • reosarevok
        Didn't mean it needs zero updates in the future, but that we don't need to do a lot of extra stuff on top ourselves. But maybe I misremembered :)
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      • yvanzo
        yeah, dockerization made dependency management and maintenance much easier, but the vm was using it already :)
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