#metabrainz

ishaanshah: While you are at it. I have some design in mind for the graph

Some models are common for lb_spark and lb

how should we proceed with that?

shivam-kapila: I am working on the frontend yet, can you post a rough sketch

*not working

shivam-kapila: I saw some changes to some icons but don't know about this new layout. how do I activate it?

oh, feature preview

Exactly

ishaanshah: 1. I dont like the dots on the lines. But this is a personal opinion

2. Can we get a area under a line type graph. That looks real cool

Something like this https://dribbble.com/shots/2198866-Admin-Interf...

shivam-kapila: Sure, I will give it a whirl when I start on the frontend

iliekcomputers: for eg.https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-s...

Waiting for a preview :)

alastairp: Did you get it to work?

the models there should be reused

Till now we have kept spark and server seperate

So not sure if we want to link them

hmm.

let me think about that and get back to you

in the meanwhile, just duplicate it for now.

Ok, will do

shivam-kapila: yeah. it, uh, looks like github still :)

The repository preview page is totally changed

shivam-kapila: we have some prototypes for AB redesign too, would love to hear your feedback on it

alastairp: Sure. I would love that

shivam-kapila: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PiL2F...

vs https://acousticbrainz.org/5223620f-cae4-46d1-b...

I like the idea of using bar charts for depicting higher level information

I'm interested in trying to be a bit smarter about the data display too - only show some data when it seems relevant

Yeah. The page is loaded with a lot of info

I would also like to settle down on 2-3 varities of font colors, weights etc

There's lot on this page. Lots of blue bold patches then some black italics, some grey headings, a read uuid. Thats too much variety

yes, just settled down on lots of shades of orange and all will be well

The low level information table also needs some redesign.

But first we need consistency in fonts -- size, color, weight etc etc.

Also I think the positions of metadata and youtube preview must be interchanged in terms of the general actionable UX guidelines for actionable items

alastairp: my $0.02: I don't like that the "label" (like ChaChaCha) looks like part of the bar chart

Zastai: it's not a final design. it was just a proposal from a year or so back. there's definitely some iteration to do on it

alastairp: If you have its design file I would definitely like to play with the design

I mean, if you take the current layout and replace the contents of the cell that has "13%" with a bar that a) uses color to indicate the percentage, and b) has the percentage either overlaid or next to it, that would work for me

just giving feedback. not currently a user of AB, so no horse in this race

shivam-kapila: hmm, I don't sorry. I think it came from a GCI student. I can't remember who posted it to me. maybe Freso?

but I guess it would be nice if the design language was aligned better across Brainz

Zastai: You stole my thought

We do need some consistency and some variance across the *Brainz

that's true to a certain extent - Mr_Monkey did a great job a number of years ago with our bootstrap layout, which is why AB and LB and CB look mostly the same

there's perhaps not as much consistency on components _in_ the page, but that's a good idea to work on

the issue with MB is that it's so huge, it's a long process to update it. the move to react for rendering the pages is only the first part in this process

I like the minimalistic Nav Bar design a lot

> hmm, I don't sorry. I think it came from a GCI student. I can't remember who posted it to me. maybe Freso?

No issues. I can trace that out. I will play with the design over a weekend and get you a mockup.

well, MB also has less of a use case for things like charts, where for AB and LB that's a big part of what they do (or plan to do) I think; not sure about CB - that seems more text-oriented

[listenbrainz-server] vansika opened pull request #922 (master…param-obj): use parameter object to handle function arguments https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv...

oh yes, I remember the blocky orange/purple UI

http://web.archive.org/web/20100204220042/http:... this brings back memories

and the "fun" of using the back button a LOT to enter similar relationships

Zastai: Speaking of UI feedback, did you stumble upon my discourse post regarding LB revamp

probably not - I usually only see what's in the digest

Anyone liking this button background? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xBs0i...

Zastai: Wait I'll share the link with you

I'm not a fan of making things pretty for the sake of making them pretty.

Woops. Just experimenting

It looks nice enough, but detracts a bit. And I'm not sure all browsers render it the same, so you'd have to be very sure none of them make the text on the button hard to read

Zastai: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-all-new-...

(assuming that gradient is css, not an image)

tab opened; will give it a look after work

Thanks

[13:22] <shivam-kapila> There's lot on this page. Lots of blue bold patches then some black italics, some grey headings, a read uuid. Thats too much variety

respectfully disagree, the ab page looks great imho (https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PiL2F...) colourwise, not too much colour, not too greyscale, not too much whitespace

CatQuest: Thats more specific to the Metadata section, but yeah I might have been wrong there :)

[13:37] <ruaok> I'm not a fan of making things pretty for the sake of making them pretty.

ˆ^ THIS.

I admit I'm parital to the colourfull flat buttons on BB

it's the same as the colourful flat bars on https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PiL2F...

CatQuest: Interested in giving review over the LB dasbaird design? :p

personally I really like the idea of tab-topba on mb. I'd implement more "tabbed" such interfaces

yes probably!

but like i have ot be able to see it so if it's too fancy liek the charts. i won't see anything, probably

Its a mockup

also I know you meant "dashboard" but "dasbaird" is an awesoem type <3

typo*

alright

Ouch.

CatQuest: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-all-new-...

no i mena it with no irony. it made me think of bards and braids and i like that imagery

uh

yea too fancy. cant access community

any other links?

yeah

oohh show me please

neh it just redirects to https://www.figma.com/unsupported_browser even on chroem which is updated as far as it goes

and youtube also crashes browsers

sorry. i'm beeing very useless today

Are you in 2020 or 2020 BC? :p

no need ot be liek that

i cna't hlep that i actually cnat afford a newer mac ok?

CatQuest: Sorry. Didnt mean to offend you

I was not offended. I was sligly hurt

only slightly

Didnt mean to. Sorry

alright :)

I tried upgrading firefox but like 45 has removed fetures i *use* so I don't know what to do about it. chrome is updated (because it updates by itself) but since I have 10.7.5 mac os it will go no longer. since this computer is now having a S.M.A.R.T. problem I will some time get a new one. due to my adhd and asberger. any chance to a tool i utilize constantly is going to have to be slow and controllable. it's just the way I am and I cann

ot help it

i realise i a ma wet sock when I go all "it doesn't work!11" but it's not my fault I have these issues and i'd like to think of it that I help keep accessability on the table (atleast a little bit)

:)

I'm fine with all fancy features looking less fancy in outdated browesers - that is to be expected after all!

but for usability, one should aim to have websites function atleast at the bear minimum usability to as broad as possible user group

also also, updates on programs have gone bezerk the last 5 years. it used t obe you would update a program maybe every year, thne maybe a few tiems a year. now it's weekly, maybe dayly

it's insane

don't get me wrong. security updates im all for, and i lament not getting those. seriosuyl, but whne they thne make it obligatory to remove features that i actually use. thne well i need ot use that feature actually so welp i guess that's it

CatQuest: I have a GDoc link too. You might give that a try

let me see. oh that recent listens page looks slick

I actually don't have any negative thing to say about what i'm seeing here tbh

the only thing is being able to : set how many listens I see on each page (make it an option that is saved, not something you have to set every time you visit the page)

and the images of "love/hate/ and the dustbin. it'd be really easy to accidentally click dustbin instead of hate

now that is solvable with having a comfirmation for delete listens but that again will make it annoying to mass delete

I am also worried about the dustbin TBH. Thats a valid point.

it's clear what the images mean atleast (another pet peeve of mine is the use of images or icons instead of text links)

I wont like love & hate texts lingering there

But the delete can be moved to an options menu

nah. for love/hate those icosn are fine. very clear in their meaning

it could be that you could check them and have one "delete" button at the bottom. that way you could easily delete several but accidentally clciknig the checker is not dangerous

Three dots to right. Click that to get options like delete and any other options like edit etc.

(and the bottom you coudl have edit/delete/tc other options)

Hm valid point.

Mass selection option

three dots work too, but mass selection yea

I'd deefintily want ot be able to do that

like check all the lsitens tht I know are from *some album* and amss edit these to say they are

or delete duplicate lsitens on a page

for pagination I'd want more than just "previous" "next" buttons. how about "go back 3 weeks, 4 years" etc optinos? it coudl be a bolean search/filter

Well thats actually possible now in timescale IMO

also like mb edit history pages. you can see it says [1] [2] [3] ... etc

For one page we have 5 day window. If I move to page 4 we can skip 20 days. But will have to see how that goes

iirc you could even originally write a number in the box and it'd take yo udirectly to that page

ooh i liek that idea. i like it a lot!

that'd be perfect for my uses

oh dear it is already 14:33 here . i was going outside before rush hour and peopel at the store

shivam-kapila: we can discuss this later also? (it's really hot in the room with the computer so i can't sit hre much longer)

For sure. Whenever you are comfortable

haha to an india 30 ̊C isn't much. but to a poor scandinavian.. :D

indian*