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      • shivam-kapila
        ishaanshah: While you are at it. I have some design in mind for the graph
      • 2020-06-18 17053, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        Some models are common for lb_spark and lb
      • 2020-06-18 17006, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        how should we proceed with that?
      • 2020-06-18 17034, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        shivam-kapila: I am working on the frontend yet, can you post a rough sketch
      • 2020-06-18 17050, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        *not working
      • 2020-06-18 17057, 2020

      • alastairp
        shivam-kapila: I saw some changes to some icons but don't know about this new layout. how do I activate it?
      • 2020-06-18 17027, 2020

      • alastairp
        oh, feature preview
      • 2020-06-18 17034, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Exactly
      • 2020-06-18 17017, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        ishaanshah: 1. I dont like the dots on the lines. But this is a personal opinion
      • 2020-06-18 17038, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        2. Can we get a area under a line type graph. That looks real cool
      • 2020-06-18 17005, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
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      • ishaanshah
        shivam-kapila: Sure, I will give it a whirl when I start on the frontend
      • 2020-06-18 17006, 2020

      • ishaanshah
      • 2020-06-18 17014, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Waiting for a preview :)
      • 2020-06-18 17024, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        alastairp: Did you get it to work?
      • 2020-06-18 17054, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        the models there should be reused
      • 2020-06-18 17013, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        Till now we have kept spark and server seperate
      • 2020-06-18 17024, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        So not sure if we want to link them
      • 2020-06-18 17025, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        hmm.
      • 2020-06-18 17035, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        let me think about that and get back to you
      • 2020-06-18 17053, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        in the meanwhile, just duplicate it for now.
      • 2020-06-18 17004, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        Ok, will do
      • 2020-06-18 17059, 2020

      • alastairp
        shivam-kapila: yeah. it, uh, looks like github still :)
      • 2020-06-18 17049, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        The repository preview page is totally changed
      • 2020-06-18 17001, 2020

      • sumedh has quit
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      • alastairp
        shivam-kapila: we have some prototypes for AB redesign too, would love to hear your feedback on it
      • 2020-06-18 17052, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        alastairp: Sure. I would love that
      • 2020-06-18 17029, 2020

      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
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      • shivam-kapila
        I like the idea of using bar charts for depicting higher level information
      • 2020-06-18 17049, 2020

      • alastairp
        I'm interested in trying to be a bit smarter about the data display too - only show some data when it seems relevant
      • 2020-06-18 17025, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Yeah. The page is loaded with a lot of info
      • 2020-06-18 17001, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        I would also like to settle down on 2-3 varities of font colors, weights etc
      • 2020-06-18 17051, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        There's lot on this page. Lots of blue bold patches then some black italics, some grey headings, a read uuid. Thats too much variety
      • 2020-06-18 17016, 2020

      • ruaok
        yes, just settled down on lots of shades of orange and all will be well
      • 2020-06-18 17052, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        The low level information table also needs some redesign.
      • 2020-06-18 17026, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        But first we need consistency in fonts -- size, color, weight etc etc.
      • 2020-06-18 17054, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Also I think the positions of metadata and youtube preview must be interchanged in terms of the general actionable UX guidelines for actionable items
      • 2020-06-18 17055, 2020

      • Zastai
        alastairp: my $0.02: I don't like that the "label" (like ChaChaCha) looks like part of the bar chart
      • 2020-06-18 17025, 2020

      • alastairp
        Zastai: it's not a final design. it was just a proposal from a year or so back. there's definitely some iteration to do on it
      • 2020-06-18 17053, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        alastairp: If you have its design file I would definitely like to play with the design
      • 2020-06-18 17026, 2020

      • Zastai
        I mean, if you take the current layout and replace the contents of the cell that has "13%" with a bar that a) uses color to indicate the percentage, and b) has the percentage either overlaid or next to it, that would work for me
      • 2020-06-18 17048, 2020

      • Zastai
        just giving feedback. not currently a user of AB, so no horse in this race
      • 2020-06-18 17059, 2020

      • alastairp
        shivam-kapila: hmm, I don't sorry. I think it came from a GCI student. I can't remember who posted it to me. maybe Freso?
      • 2020-06-18 17022, 2020

      • Zastai
        but I guess it would be nice if the design language was aligned better across Brainz
      • 2020-06-18 17034, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Zastai: You stole my thought
      • 2020-06-18 17006, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        We do need some consistency and some variance across the *Brainz
      • 2020-06-18 17020, 2020

      • alastairp
        that's true to a certain extent - Mr_Monkey did a great job a number of years ago with our bootstrap layout, which is why AB and LB and CB look mostly the same
      • 2020-06-18 17035, 2020

      • alastairp
        there's perhaps not as much consistency on components _in_ the page, but that's a good idea to work on
      • 2020-06-18 17005, 2020

      • alastairp
        the issue with MB is that it's so huge, it's a long process to update it. the move to react for rendering the pages is only the first part in this process
      • 2020-06-18 17038, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        I like the minimalistic Nav Bar design a lot
      • 2020-06-18 17039, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        > hmm, I don't sorry. I think it came from a GCI student. I can't remember who posted it to me. maybe Freso?
      • 2020-06-18 17039, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        No issues. I can trace that out. I will play with the design over a weekend and get you a mockup.
      • 2020-06-18 17044, 2020

      • Zastai
        well, MB also has less of a use case for things like charts, where for AB and LB that's a big part of what they do (or plan to do) I think; not sure about CB - that seems more text-oriented
      • 2020-06-18 17046, 2020

      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] vansika opened pull request #922 (master…param-obj): use parameter object to handle function arguments https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
      • 2020-06-18 17057, 2020

      • alastairp
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      • Zastai
        oh yes, I remember the blocky orange/purple UI
      • 2020-06-18 17057, 2020

      • alastairp
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      • Zastai
        and the "fun" of using the back button a LOT to enter similar relationships
      • 2020-06-18 17045, 2020

      • jmp_music joined the channel
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      • shivam-kapila
        Zastai: Speaking of UI feedback, did you stumble upon my discourse post regarding LB revamp
      • 2020-06-18 17020, 2020

      • Zastai
        probably not - I usually only see what's in the digest
      • 2020-06-18 17037, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Anyone liking this button background? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xBs0ifN…
      • 2020-06-18 17056, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Zastai: Wait I'll share the link with you
      • 2020-06-18 17004, 2020

      • ruaok
        I'm not a fan of making things pretty for the sake of making them pretty.
      • 2020-06-18 17057, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Woops. Just experimenting
      • 2020-06-18 17057, 2020

      • Zastai
        It looks nice enough, but detracts a bit. And I'm not sure all browsers render it the same, so you'd have to be very sure none of them make the text on the button hard to read
      • 2020-06-18 17016, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
      • 2020-06-18 17019, 2020

      • Zastai
        (assuming that gradient is css, not an image)
      • 2020-06-18 17048, 2020

      • Zastai
        tab opened; will give it a look after work
      • 2020-06-18 17055, 2020

      • Zastai returns to lurk mode
      • 2020-06-18 17000, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Thanks
      • 2020-06-18 17042, 2020

      • CatQuest
        [13:22] <shivam-kapila> There's lot on this page. Lots of blue bold patches then some black italics, some grey headings, a read uuid. Thats too much variety
      • 2020-06-18 17042, 2020

      • CatQuest
        respectfully disagree, the ab page looks great imho (https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PiL2FvQ…) colourwise, not too much colour, not too greyscale, not too much whitespace
      • 2020-06-18 17058, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        CatQuest: Thats more specific to the Metadata section, but yeah I might have been wrong there :)
      • 2020-06-18 17012, 2020

      • CatQuest
        [13:37] <ruaok> I'm not a fan of making things pretty for the sake of making them pretty.
      • 2020-06-18 17012, 2020

      • CatQuest
        ˆ^ THIS.
      • 2020-06-18 17007, 2020

      • CatQuest
        I admit I'm parital to the colourfull flat buttons on BB
      • 2020-06-18 17024, 2020

      • CatQuest
        it's the same as the colourful flat bars on https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PiL2FvQ…
      • 2020-06-18 17000, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        CatQuest: Interested in giving review over the LB dasbaird design? :p
      • 2020-06-18 17006, 2020

      • CatQuest
        personally I really like the idea of tab-topba on mb. I'd implement more "tabbed" such interfaces
      • 2020-06-18 17013, 2020

      • CatQuest
        yes probably!
      • 2020-06-18 17028, 2020

      • CatQuest
        but like i have ot be able to see it so if it's too fancy liek the charts. i won't see anything, probably
      • 2020-06-18 17049, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Its a mockup
      • 2020-06-18 17002, 2020

      • CatQuest
        also I know you meant "dashboard" but "dasbaird" is an awesoem type <3
      • 2020-06-18 17005, 2020

      • CatQuest
        typo*
      • 2020-06-18 17009, 2020

      • CatQuest
        alright
      • 2020-06-18 17037, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Ouch.
      • 2020-06-18 17041, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
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      • CatQuest
        no i mena it with no irony. it made me think of bards and braids and i like that imagery
      • 2020-06-18 17059, 2020

      • CatQuest
        uh
      • 2020-06-18 17005, 2020

      • CatQuest
        yea too fancy. cant access community
      • 2020-06-18 17012, 2020

      • CatQuest
        any other links?
      • 2020-06-18 17024, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        yeah
      • 2020-06-18 17036, 2020

      • CatQuest
        oohh show me please
      • 2020-06-18 17041, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
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      • shivam-kapila YT videos here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSMbYnucsFY&feature=youtu.be&list=PL1dbFnqGoS9qdgYUSkWoMJNV5Z_FDe2nN
      • 2020-06-18 17034, 2020

      • CatQuest
        neh it just redirects to https://www.figma.com/unsupported_browser even on chroem which is updated as far as it goes
      • 2020-06-18 17039, 2020

      • CatQuest
        and youtube also crashes browsers
      • 2020-06-18 17057, 2020

      • CatQuest
        sorry. i'm beeing very useless today
      • 2020-06-18 17018, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Are you in 2020 or 2020 BC? :p
      • 2020-06-18 17025, 2020

      • CatQuest
        no need ot be liek that
      • 2020-06-18 17037, 2020

      • CatQuest
        i cna't hlep that i actually cnat afford a newer mac ok?
      • 2020-06-18 17003, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        CatQuest: Sorry. Didnt mean to offend you
      • 2020-06-18 17015, 2020

      • CatQuest
        I was not offended. I was sligly hurt
      • 2020-06-18 17027, 2020

      • CatQuest
        only slightly
      • 2020-06-18 17032, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Didnt mean to. Sorry
      • 2020-06-18 17036, 2020

      • CatQuest
        alright :)
      • 2020-06-18 17022, 2020

      • CatQuest
        I tried upgrading firefox but like 45 has removed fetures i *use* so I don't know what to do about it. chrome is updated (because it updates by itself) but since I have 10.7.5 mac os it will go no longer. since this computer is now having a S.M.A.R.T. problem I will some time get a new one. due to my adhd and asberger. any chance to a tool i utilize constantly is going to have to be slow and controllable. it's just the way I am and I cann
      • 2020-06-18 17023, 2020

      • CatQuest
        ot help it
      • 2020-06-18 17023, 2020

      • CatQuest
        i realise i a ma wet sock when I go all "it doesn't work!11" but it's not my fault I have these issues and i'd like to think of it that I help keep accessability on the table (atleast a little bit)
      • 2020-06-18 17055, 2020

      • CatQuest
        :)
      • 2020-06-18 17011, 2020

      • CatQuest
        I'm fine with all fancy features looking less fancy in outdated browesers - that is to be expected after all!
      • 2020-06-18 17012, 2020

      • CatQuest
        but for usability, one should aim to have websites function atleast at the bear minimum usability to as broad as possible user group
      • 2020-06-18 17051, 2020

      • CatQuest
        also also, updates on programs have gone bezerk the last 5 years. it used t obe you would update a program maybe every year, thne maybe a few tiems a year. now it's weekly, maybe dayly
      • 2020-06-18 17056, 2020

      • CatQuest
        it's insane
      • 2020-06-18 17037, 2020

      • CatQuest
        don't get me wrong. security updates im all for, and i lament not getting those. seriosuyl, but whne they thne make it obligatory to remove features that i actually use. thne well i need ot use that feature actually so welp i guess that's it
      • 2020-06-18 17025, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        CatQuest: I have a GDoc link too. You might give that a try
      • 2020-06-18 17027, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
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      • CatQuest
        let me see. oh that recent listens page looks slick
      • 2020-06-18 17023, 2020

      • CatQuest
        I actually don't have any negative thing to say about what i'm seeing here tbh
      • 2020-06-18 17023, 2020

      • CatQuest
        the only thing is being able to : set how many listens I see on each page (make it an option that is saved, not something you have to set every time you visit the page)
      • 2020-06-18 17023, 2020

      • CatQuest
        and the images of "love/hate/ and the dustbin. it'd be really easy to accidentally click dustbin instead of hate
      • 2020-06-18 17024, 2020

      • CatQuest
        now that is solvable with having a comfirmation for delete listens but that again will make it annoying to mass delete
      • 2020-06-18 17045, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        I am also worried about the dustbin TBH. Thats a valid point.
      • 2020-06-18 17011, 2020

      • CatQuest
        it's clear what the images mean atleast (another pet peeve of mine is the use of images or icons instead of text links)
      • 2020-06-18 17051, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        I wont like love & hate texts lingering there
      • 2020-06-18 17005, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        But the delete can be moved to an options menu
      • 2020-06-18 17006, 2020

      • CatQuest
        nah. for love/hate those icosn are fine. very clear in their meaning
      • 2020-06-18 17047, 2020

      • CatQuest
        it could be that you could check them and have one "delete" button at the bottom. that way you could easily delete several but accidentally clciknig the checker is not dangerous
      • 2020-06-18 17048, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Three dots to right. Click that to get options like delete and any other options like edit etc.
      • 2020-06-18 17008, 2020

      • CatQuest
        (and the bottom you coudl have edit/delete/tc other options)
      • 2020-06-18 17025, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Hm valid point.
      • 2020-06-18 17032, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Mass selection option
      • 2020-06-18 17038, 2020

      • CatQuest
        three dots work too, but mass selection yea
      • 2020-06-18 17049, 2020

      • CatQuest
        I'd deefintily want ot be able to do that
      • 2020-06-18 17006, 2020

      • CatQuest
        like check all the lsitens tht I know are from *some album* and amss edit these to say they are
      • 2020-06-18 17012, 2020

      • CatQuest
        or delete duplicate lsitens on a page
      • 2020-06-18 17053, 2020

      • CatQuest
        for pagination I'd want more than just "previous" "next" buttons. how about "go back 3 weeks, 4 years" etc optinos? it coudl be a bolean search/filter
      • 2020-06-18 17018, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Well thats actually possible now in timescale IMO
      • 2020-06-18 17048, 2020

      • CatQuest
        also like mb edit history pages. you can see it says [1] [2] [3] ... etc
      • 2020-06-18 17012, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        For one page we have 5 day window. If I move to page 4 we can skip 20 days. But will have to see how that goes
      • 2020-06-18 17014, 2020

      • CatQuest
        iirc you could even originally write a number in the box and it'd take yo udirectly to that page
      • 2020-06-18 17029, 2020

      • CatQuest
        ooh i liek that idea. i like it a lot!
      • 2020-06-18 17044, 2020

      • CatQuest
        that'd be perfect for my uses
      • 2020-06-18 17035, 2020

      • CatQuest
        oh dear it is already 14:33 here . i was going outside before rush hour and peopel at the store
      • 2020-06-18 17008, 2020

      • CatQuest
        shivam-kapila: we can discuss this later also? (it's really hot in the room with the computer so i can't sit hre much longer)
      • 2020-06-18 17026, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        For sure. Whenever you are comfortable
      • 2020-06-18 17039, 2020

      • CatQuest
        haha to an india 30 ̊C isn't much. but to a poor scandinavian.. :D
      • 2020-06-18 17045, 2020

      • CatQuest
        indian*