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      • Mr_Monkey
        No idea what that is
      • 2020-09-21 26556, 2020

      • yvanzo
        (the motivation is it becomes less efficient with time)
      • 2020-09-21 26520, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        ruaok: Do you have any console logs I can look at from when that error happened?
      • 2020-09-21 26531, 2020

      • bitmap
        yvanzo: I'll take a look at the changes, but might take a few hours to review
      • 2020-09-21 26533, 2020

      • ruaok
        sorry, I just closed the tab.
      • 2020-09-21 26551, 2020

      • pristine___
        ruaok: are you able to play the tracks?
      • 2020-09-21 26526, 2020

      • ruaok
        not predictably. I can't click on a specific track and get it to play.
      • 2020-09-21 26547, 2020

      • ruaok
        must be more my luck/setup. I'll just release and call it good.
      • 2020-09-21 26551, 2020

      • pristine___
        You have to double click
      • 2020-09-21 26506, 2020

      • pristine___
        That's how the card works.
      • 2020-09-21 26515, 2020

      • ruaok
        why are there affordances that tell me any of this?
      • 2020-09-21 26545, 2020

      • pristine___
        shivam-kapila: ^
      • 2020-09-21 26527, 2020

      • yvanzo
        bitmap: thanks, it can actually be merged even after the release (since it's for master only).
      • 2020-09-21 26509, 2020

      • bitmap
        I'm not sure I understand how the # of edits could drop 230K due to merges
      • 2020-09-21 26506, 2020

      • yvanzo
        bitmap: merged recordings have a new id, and edits having obsolete recording ID in data are not unlisted as possibly matching.
      • 2020-09-21 26527, 2020

      • ruaok
      • 2020-09-21 26513, 2020

      • bitmap
        yvanzo: oh, so there are less false negatives because it doesn't follow redirects?
      • 2020-09-21 26520, 2020

      • bitmap
        *more
      • 2020-09-21 26524, 2020

      • yvanzo
        right
      • 2020-09-21 26522, 2020

      • pristine___
        Check you recommended tracks here: https://beta.listenbrainz.org/recommended/tracks/…
      • 2020-09-21 26536, 2020

      • pristine___
        Is this okay ruaok ? In the community post
      • 2020-09-21 26506, 2020

      • ruaok
        why use beta? I just released it into production.
      • 2020-09-21 26527, 2020

      • pristine___
        Right. That is a mistake
      • 2020-09-21 26537, 2020

      • pristine___
      • 2020-09-21 26547, 2020

      • ruaok
        +1
      • 2020-09-21 26553, 2020

      • pristine___
        Thanks
      • 2020-09-21 26559, 2020

      • ruaok
        might also give an example of an actual working URL
      • 2020-09-21 26509, 2020

      • yvanzo
        bitmap: it should be possible to use link.entity.gid with recording_gid_redirect instead of just link.entity.id, but that is probably far more complex.
      • 2020-09-21 26537, 2020

      • pristine___
        Yeah, that was my intention, people may find <user-name> thing weird
      • 2020-09-21 26541, 2020

      • pristine___
        I will add an example
      • 2020-09-21 26545, 2020

      • pristine___
        Thanks
      • 2020-09-21 26555, 2020

      • MajorLurker has quit
      • 2020-09-21 26517, 2020

      • yvanzo
        (actually entity0.id, link.entity0.id, relationship.entity0.id, ...)
      • 2020-09-21 26548, 2020

      • ruaok
        iliekcomputers: release done. docker-server-configs updated. can you take care of the release notes later please?
      • 2020-09-21 26538, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        sgtm
      • 2020-09-21 26517, 2020

      • pristine___
      • 2020-09-21 26523, 2020

      • pristine___
        ruaok: ^
      • 2020-09-21 26558, 2020

      • ruaok
        🎉
      • 2020-09-21 26541, 2020

      • _lucifer
        !m listenbrainz team
      • 2020-09-21 26541, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, listenbrainz team!
      • 2020-09-21 26548, 2020

      • _lucifer
        🎉
      • 2020-09-21 26555, 2020

      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] MonkeyDo opened pull request #1103 (master…youtube-player-fix-title): Update youtube track title if in "buffering" state https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
      • 2020-09-21 26513, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        Found a small easy-to-fix bug in the YoutubePlayer ^
      • 2020-09-21 26540, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        Nothing about that "missing parameter type" error message yet, though.
      • 2020-09-21 26502, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        Nicely done pristine___, shivam-kapila, ruaok !
      • 2020-09-21 26502, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        Really cool and exciting to see recommendations pages in LB ! :heavy_heart_exclamation_mark_ornament:
      • 2020-09-21 26516, 2020

      • ruaok
        :D
      • 2020-09-21 26523, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        Feels like a really important step.
      • 2020-09-21 26550, 2020

      • ruaok
        let's see what the community reaction will be.
      • 2020-09-21 26509, 2020

      • pristine___
        Mr_Monkey: thank you :)
      • 2020-09-21 26558, 2020

      • abhinavohri joined the channel
      • 2020-09-21 26539, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        Same conclusions for me: 1) the playlists are on point, and they are indeed tracks I might very well like and 2) they do need more diversity
      • 2020-09-21 26539, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        Really good first version though!
      • 2020-09-21 26535, 2020

      • pristine___
        Thank you Mr_Monkey for the feedback.
      • 2020-09-21 26544, 2020

      • pristine___
        Did you get the chance to read the community blog?
      • 2020-09-21 26557, 2020

      • pristine___
        You will understand better the reason for point 2.
      • 2020-09-21 26509, 2020

      • pristine___
        But we are working in the diversity :)
      • 2020-09-21 26512, 2020

      • pristine___
        On*
      • 2020-09-21 26539, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        Reading now :)
      • 2020-09-21 26546, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        pristine___: Hi, the recommendations are really cool, nice job :D
      • 2020-09-21 26557, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        > why are there affordances that tell me any of this?
      • 2020-09-21 26503, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        I was reading the your community post right now
      • 2020-09-21 26505, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        ruaok: didnt get you
      • 2020-09-21 26534, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        > Even if you have listened to an artist many times, it is highly probable that the tracks associated with that artist will not show up in your playlist given the artist is not popular in ListenBrainz.
      • 2020-09-21 26534, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        Is there anyway to counter this issue?
      • 2020-09-21 26542, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        or it is the way how CF works
      • 2020-09-21 26500, 2020

      • ruaok
      • 2020-09-21 26508, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        I wonder if there will be a significant self-influencing effect, ie if I listen to my recommendations a lot, will that generate more similar recommendations, possibly less diverse ones over time?
      • 2020-09-21 26547, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        I am asking this because I recently started listening to some country music from a very less popular artist but I would like to get more artists similar to her....
      • 2020-09-21 26552, 2020

      • ishaanshah
      • 2020-09-21 26554, 2020

      • pristine___
        > Is there anyway to counter this issue?
      • 2020-09-21 26520, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        ruaok: ah gotcha. we had a hover title for the cards saying "Double click to play. " but iliekcomputers suggested its too much
      • 2020-09-21 26538, 2020

      • pristine___
        ishaanshah: we can take recordings from some big data set which is available for public use
      • 2020-09-21 26540, 2020

      • pristine___
        Maybe
      • 2020-09-21 26540, 2020

      • ruaok
        and nothing at all is too little.
      • 2020-09-21 26505, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        i did? i don't remember
      • 2020-09-21 26523, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        pristine___: something like mlhd?
      • 2020-09-21 26556, 2020

      • pristine___
        ishaanshah: that's not how CF works, we take recordings from data submitted to listenbrainz, that's why they too much depend on what the LB users listen to
      • 2020-09-21 26509, 2020

      • pristine___
        That's the biggest drawback
      • 2020-09-21 26513, 2020

      • pristine___
        ishaanshah: yes
      • 2020-09-21 26520, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        what I was thinking is that we need a release banner which highlights the stuff we just released. A single component that shows up after major (or maybe even minor) features are added
      • 2020-09-21 26541, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        ruaok: iliekcomputers ^^
      • 2020-09-21 26512, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        Hmm, so if I am the only one to listen to a particular artist on LB, then theres no way that I'll get similar artist to that artist?
      • 2020-09-21 26547, 2020

      • pristine___
        ishaanshah: I mostly liisten to Indian artists , but my recs are not diverse because there aren't much listens in LB that belong to Indian artists, it really depends on users and the amount of data we have rn.
      • 2020-09-21 26548, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        The tweet does the same thing
      • 2020-09-21 26555, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        It shows up on the home page
      • 2020-09-21 26503, 2020

      • pristine___
        > Hmm, so if I am the only one to listen to a particular artist on LB, then theres no way that I'll get similar artist to that artist?
      • 2020-09-21 26505, 2020

      • abhinavohri
        i want to work on LB-583. Can someone provide me some details about the test add where to add it.
      • 2020-09-21 26506, 2020

      • pristine___
        You will get a similar artist, but you might not get recordings of that similar artist if no user of LB has ever listened to that artist.
      • 2020-09-21 26506, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        LB-583: Add tests for Spotify search functionality https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/LB-583
      • 2020-09-21 26524, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        iliekcomputers: hmm true. btw did you get a chance to look through my followers/following PR
      • 2020-09-21 26555, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        oh, now I understand, we are only taking recrdings from LB and not from MB
      • 2020-09-21 26503, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        ah got it got it...
      • 2020-09-21 26506, 2020

      • pristine___
        Yes.
      • 2020-09-21 26511, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        I did! I think it's pretty good, needs tests and a removal of the RecentListens code
      • 2020-09-21 26522, 2020

      • pristine___
        We can take it from MB, or any bigger data dump.
      • 2020-09-21 26528, 2020

      • pristine___
        It can be the next step
      • 2020-09-21 26530, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        I've written some code to add a new UserFeed page, I'll use it there
      • 2020-09-21 26542, 2020

      • pristine___
        And believe the recs will be so so diverse.
      • 2020-09-21 26545, 2020

      • pristine___
        Me*
      • 2020-09-21 26559, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        Ohk, that would be cool
      • 2020-09-21 26502, 2020

      • _lucifer
        >Is there anyway to counter this issue?
      • 2020-09-21 26506, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        iliekcomputers: yeah I pushed the code only to show how we are gonna implement in the end
      • 2020-09-21 26516, 2020

      • _lucifer
        normalizing can probably help to some extent
      • 2020-09-21 26517, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        can we only get artists and not their recording rn then?
      • 2020-09-21 26539, 2020

      • pristine___
        ishaanshah: the way we calculate candidate sets similar artist, top artist is pretty much fine, the data source is effecting the diversity of recs.
      • 2020-09-21 26551, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        One question is that out of the 1st and 3rtd figma which one you preferred more?
      • 2020-09-21 26554, 2020

      • pristine___
        > normalizing can probably help to some extent
      • 2020-09-21 26510, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        i don't remember which one was which
      • 2020-09-21 26514, 2020

      • iliekcomputers
        the simpler one
      • 2020-09-21 26532, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        okay
      • 2020-09-21 26538, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Will add CSS and tests then
      • 2020-09-21 26544, 2020

      • pristine___
        _lucifer: how will normalization solve the issue of not having *recordings* of a particular artist in LB?
      • 2020-09-21 26556, 2020

      • pristine___
        > can we only get artists and not their recording rn then?
      • 2020-09-21 26510, 2020

      • pristine___
        ishaanshah: didn't get you? What will we do of the artists?
      • 2020-09-21 26538, 2020

      • _lucifer
        pristine___: by reducing the weightage a particular recording has
      • 2020-09-21 26539, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        I mean I can then search for the artists manually on spotify or something..
      • 2020-09-21 26519, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        ishaanshah: you mean to say "Artists you may like"?
      • 2020-09-21 26533, 2020

      • ishaanshah
        yeah something like that
      • 2020-09-21 26534, 2020

      • pristine___
        _lucifer: that won't improve the diversity of recs
      • 2020-09-21 26548, 2020

      • _lucifer
        i was answering regarding the populartity thing ishaanshah asked. If there isn't a recording that is a different matter altogether.
      • 2020-09-21 26559, 2020

      • yvanzo
        ruaok, bitmap: any news from OAuth report authors?
      • 2020-09-21 26537, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        pristine___: 1 more thing
      • 2020-09-21 26553, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
      • 2020-09-21 26505, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Do you see the top score is ).5
      • 2020-09-21 26507, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        0.5
      • 2020-09-21 26509, 2020

      • pristine___
        ishaanshah: the best option is to use a bigger pool of data like mhld or something. People seldom want to search manually for tracks even if they have a recommend artist ig
      • 2020-09-21 26532, 2020

      • pristine___
        0.598 shivam-kapila
      • 2020-09-21 26532, 2020

      • _lucifer
        one thing that could be done is that we source the entire recording dataset mb has, maybe give each recording a value of 1
      • 2020-09-21 26534, 2020

      • pristine___
        Yes?
      • 2020-09-21 26508, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        I have a suggestion that the score should be normalised per user rather than based on whole data set
      • 2020-09-21 26533, 2020

      • _lucifer
        yes shivam-kapila, i agree
      • 2020-09-21 26541, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        having a rec with score 0.5 gives me a feel that I am getting half quality recs
      • 2020-09-21 26512, 2020

      • pristine___
        Using MB dataset, _lucifer doable, sounds good.
      • 2020-09-21 26523, 2020

      • pristine___
        Right shivam-kapila
      • 2020-09-21 26530, 2020

      • pristine___
        _lucifer: do you want to work on this?
      • 2020-09-21 26535, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        Plus 1 more thing
      • 2020-09-21 26539, 2020

      • pristine___
        I remember you once said that you want to
      • 2020-09-21 26541, 2020

      • _lucifer
        sure, pristine___
      • 2020-09-21 26555, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        how is the input scaled
      • 2020-09-21 26504, 2020

      • pristine___
        It's not, as of now.
      • 2020-09-21 26504, 2020

      • _lucifer
        it isn't iirc
      • 2020-09-21 26517, 2020

      • pristine___
        It's just the playcount.
      • 2020-09-21 26533, 2020

      • _lucifer
        scaling is a subset of normalizing
      • 2020-09-21 26555, 2020

      • pristine___
        _lucifer: I think you opened a ticket for this? Normalizing the input?
      • 2020-09-21 26555, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        I have a feel if we scale it on basis of how the listens hold a portion of my listening habits we might imrpove results
      • 2020-09-21 26505, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        _lucifer: I am poor at maths
      • 2020-09-21 26525, 2020

      • _lucifer likes math ::sunglasses:
      • 2020-09-21 26557, 2020

      • _lucifer
        pristine___: let me see if i can find it otherwise i'll open one now
      • 2020-09-21 26500, 2020

      • Mr_Monkey
        abhinavohri: The Spotify search tests will fit in this test file: https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…