#metabrainz

btw

Does anyone know of a good library for interactive maps on a small scale?

I was wondering about a nice way of present what berry bush is where in the local community garden :D

draw a picture of the garden and put a x on it

yes

good question though

Mr_Monkey, alastairp: does lobes topic somehow relates to design-system?

yvanzo: I don't think so. I'm not sure there is any clear value in integration the design system for MB/other things at the moment

maybe it's a good idea? but I was just interested in proposing that we upgrade from bs3 to bs5

alright, still interested to learn more about lobes, will follow :)

right now design-system is mostly just "bootstrap + some minor css tweaks for MB"

it has other cool stuff like a storyboard setup for developing/testing components, but it's not used by any project atm

OK, let's bring this up during the discussion as well

the cool thing about the cleenups was the stats that ojnkpjg did once

i love this idea

I think it's important to have stats, and people seeing actually change

Food is taking longer than expected

(but it was worthwhile)

we started with classical cleanup meanwhile :)

Making moves to return of office asap.

Perfect!

ruaok: Yeah. We’re starting with community cleanup discussion which we figured you and Monkey wouldn’t be (as) needed for. :)

link pls

CatQuest: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Summit/20

(to that ticket, want to vote/follow)

Oh

:p

Freso: no, i'ts in-context of ddiscussion

loujine: nice mechanical keyboard ;)

oops :)

+1 to hide from beginners.

+1

yes

beep boop

sorry I had to go and ask the neigbour about some knocking. but it was jsut a single little thing

hi dosoe

yes

oh god idea! like listening on listenbrainz!

reosarevok:

reosarevok: +1 to the sidebar, also consider how to make it easy to integrate to the future UI (chhavi's Design tickets).

I'm here and listening

INSTRUMENTation

VOCALIZATION

Wait, no

I found a spammer!

?

Hah

Of course it's a BTS fan

I wouldn't even be surprised if that is just a crazy fan who wants the numbers to be big

Can someone screenshare ^ please. 🙏

ruaok: a lot of spammers there I think?

cant acess

I assume all WaxCastlez are the same

!m ruaok

You're doing good work, ruaok!

cant acess

Thank you Mr_Monkey :)

HEY I can't acess

CatQuest: it's on the screen now :)

(at least)

and it's S much easie for me to see it on a computer screen than on thetiny phone scren.

CatQuest: ^

men for faen da

At least we’re pretty good about sunsetting things compared Spotify and others that will happily take down APIs with little or no warning.

whatever

CatQuest: Try again

yes \/o success!

is there any metric on number of xml requests v/s json request?

zas: ^

+1 for json first, was going to bring up a simliar point in SOLR session

nope, but I guess we could gather some

Oh, heh. what _lucifer said, yes

pymbngs still uses xml by default

alastairp: sure, I expect a lot of projects use xml because of that

But say if 40% + use JSON, that'd be impressive :p

yeah, and especially if picard now uses it, that should give some interesting results

bitmap: this? https://gist.github.com/yvanzo/2d1bb03c86efc1a5...

LB-733

LB-733: Warn spammers & prepare to block accounts https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/LB-733

Do WS calls include the app name / contact email of the caller? If so, you might have a list of contacts to notify of pending changes.

alastairp: How difficult would it be to switch pymbngs over? Could it be done without changes for endusers?

no, not really. because the format that we convert the xml to is slightly different to the json

rdswift: theoretically yes, in practise who knows

This can be used for MBS releases: https://blog.metabrainz.org/category/musicbrain...

rdswift: yes, but the people who read those instructions are likely the one who are aware of changes. :)

Perhaps, but at least you could say that they had been notified.

;-)

as an editor, I read the blog to know about fixes and new features (and to try them out)

+1 Mr_Monkey

bitmap alastairp Mr_Monkey and other project leads: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/ORG-42 - should possibly have per-project tickets for this.

ORG-42: Have all (main) project repositories link to blog

Freso: a breaking change version of pymbngs could migrate to the json endpoint, add requests, and remove about 80% of the code, so definitely a good idea

"add requests" -> move to the `requests` package to make queries

THIS

Good idea, but you might want to consider an "opt out" option for shy users who don't want thir comments made public to other than their followers.

rdswift: I think that might be counter to the "philosophy" of CB and LB.

We’re specifically and intentionally not supporting private "listens" and there’s no way to have hidden reviews (well, other than drafts) on CB.

But is a comment the same as a review?

I do think that there should be a clear notification that the review will be public

(Just playing devil's advocate here...)

I think the idea is to present those writings not as comments, but clearly as reviews

👍

"Give a short review of this track" rather than "Write a comment to your followers"

yea

I was just thinking that we’d moved/are moving away from using APIs "internally" :)

it might be ok to be "only show to logged in users" to prevent idk

or or, if you want to she *who* you neex to login

see*

i am interested in helping out on this user accounts projects

Mr_Monkey, that does NOT look like a monkey. :-)

Freso: can't change licence after publishing

I’d say CC-by-sa should be a safe one, but CC-by could be a more CC0-ish choice.

Also, it should be possible to change a license to a more permissive one (but not the other way).

ruaok: it does say right in the choice exactly what it means , in ausefull

an usefull way*

I’d vote to drop nc as an option going forward.

It can be kept in the db for backwards compatibility, but nc is :|

non commercial

?

Yes

_lucifer: we've been talking about it for 3-4 years, so maybe in another 2 years or so we'll be ready to start :)

^

what does that mean exactly? doesnt that mean that others cant make money of it?

Yeah.

alastairp: lol, i remember talks about in start of 2019 when i joined MeB community

my favourite is share alike give credit

CatQuest: right. at least, not without additional permission

But it is unclear as to what extent is "make money" counts.

really don't want others to make money on my words/effort/work

Is it "making money" if you make a video and put it on YouTube and get ad revenue? What if you don’t, but YouTube uses your derived work to run ads and earn themselves?

Is a non-commercial company (say, MetaBrainz or WikiMedia) "making money" by asking for donations?

depends on the level, you, is fine, pewdiepie or youtube, no

CB dumps are already split into nc/non-nc

"depends on the level" ← is why it doesn’t work :)

and that's why i use nc and don't wnat it removed

will do

CatQuest: "nc" is a non-free license.

i don't agree

fuck of rob

CatQuest: Please mind your manners.

As long as the user understands, they have the option of not submitting.