I mean. most of that owudl go to rent, electricity, etc but
2021-03-03 06255, 2021
CatQuest
poc a poc :D
2021-03-03 06259, 2021
reosarevok
CatQuest: it wouldn't pay most rents in Estonian cities
2021-03-03 06207, 2021
reosarevok
Well, it might pay the rent, but not the utilities
2021-03-03 06217, 2021
ruaok
hard to pay rent in BCN with that.
2021-03-03 06228, 2021
ruaok
sharing a room, maybe. your own flat? nope.
2021-03-03 06235, 2021
ruaok
sharing a flat, sorry.
2021-03-03 06242, 2021
reosarevok
Here that's *about* the cost of renting your own flat
2021-03-03 06252, 2021
reosarevok
I mean, you can get it cheaper if you're ok with the shower being in the kitchen
2021-03-03 06202, 2021
shivam-kapila
wut
2021-03-03 06212, 2021
shivam-kapila
reosarevok's strange fantasies
2021-03-03 06215, 2021
ruaok
shivam-kapila: #thingsscandinavianslike
2021-03-03 06225, 2021
reosarevok
Or if you have enough money for a mortgage - then you probably pay 200€ per month or whatever :)
2021-03-03 06240, 2021
shivam-kapila
rents are cheaper in india tbh
2021-03-03 06202, 2021
reosarevok
shivam-kapila: if your house was built back when you went to the public baths to clean yourself, then it won't have a bathroom :)
2021-03-03 06202, 2021
shivam-kapila
100-200 USD and you can get decent 2BHK
2021-03-03 06223, 2021
alastairp
hello, I'm here for the afternoon
2021-03-03 06233, 2021
ruaok hands the afternoon to alastairp
2021-03-03 06239, 2021
alastairp
thank you
2021-03-03 06240, 2021
ruaok
need anything else?
2021-03-03 06243, 2021
alastairp leaves with the afternoon
2021-03-03 06247, 2021
alastairp
see you another day
2021-03-03 06250, 2021
shivam-kapila
lol
2021-03-03 06251, 2021
ruaok
hey, that's for all of us!!
2021-03-03 06256, 2021
iliekcomputers
hello are we talking about rent
2021-03-03 06213, 2021
iliekcomputers shudders
2021-03-03 06215, 2021
ruaok
and afternoons.
2021-03-03 06218, 2021
reosarevok
shivam-kapila: So, especially for cheap houses, sometimes you have a shared toilet in the corridor and the shower is just placed wherever water is - so, the kitchen corner
2021-03-03 06233, 2021
reosarevok
It's not *common*, but I had one of those
2021-03-03 06241, 2021
alastairp
iliekcomputers: hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes?
2021-03-03 06203, 2021
shivam-kapila
oh. My father told me thier old ancestral house had a similar architecture
alastairp: ruaok Mr_Monkey iliekcomputers _lucifer I was trying a mockup for the new profile page. I am currently stuck on what else to show. Any suggestions?
CatQuest: I expect your rent is cheaper because you have lived in there for a long time? In Spain some cases are like that
2021-03-03 06233, 2021
ruaok has €1125 rent, which is cheap for my flat/area. at least pre-pandemic levels.
2021-03-03 06244, 2021
shivam-kapila
(ugh. Sigyn said you spammed by tagging :\)
2021-03-03 06248, 2021
reosarevok
Like, are new similar apartments near you being rented for the same?
2021-03-03 06258, 2021
alastairp
ruaok: did yours go up since you moved here? I recall it was less than that when you arrived
2021-03-03 06202, 2021
iliekcomputers
mine is 1135 euro but my apartment is much much shittier than ruaok's
2021-03-03 06207, 2021
CatQuest
reosarevok: no idea and now i'm scared
2021-03-03 06213, 2021
iliekcomputers
isn't housing crisis fun
2021-03-03 06224, 2021
CatQuest
I guess they're around 6000 (well were 10 years ago :/)
2021-03-03 06224, 2021
shivam-kapila
not till you are homeless
2021-03-03 06231, 2021
reosarevok
We pay 250€ per month + another 150 to 200€ or so in utilities + heating + everything
2021-03-03 06240, 2021
_lucifer
housing crisis, huh 2008?
2021-03-03 06250, 2021
reosarevok
But that's loan not rent
2021-03-03 06259, 2021
_lucifer
;)
2021-03-03 06206, 2021
ruaok
up 200 after my first 5 years, yes. but 400 wouldn't have been out of place. I just didn't give in to my landlord. he had to fix exactly nothing in 5 years. I fixed it (and stuff in the building) myself and always pay my rent/bills on time. he gave in
2021-03-03 06207, 2021
reosarevok
Rent for the same apartment, *at least* 380, maybe 450
2021-03-03 06227, 2021
_lucifer
shivam-kapila: the timeline will be a different page or a part of the profile page?
2021-03-03 06228, 2021
shivam-kapila
I like how BCN is designed btw (as it looks in the pictures atleast)
2021-03-03 06236, 2021
shivam-kapila
_lucifer: different
2021-03-03 06252, 2021
ruaok
shivam-kapila: the first city planner of the world, designed BCN.
2021-03-03 06258, 2021
reosarevok
Well, the designed part :D
2021-03-03 06203, 2021
reosarevok
The center is "good luck getting lost"
2021-03-03 06204, 2021
ruaok
Ildefons Cerda.
2021-03-03 06217, 2021
reosarevok
But then, most old centers are
2021-03-03 06222, 2021
shivam-kapila
ruaok: wow. The night view is so mesmerising
2021-03-03 06224, 2021
ruaok
that wasn't his work -- that was his inspiration. (let's unfuck this!)
2021-03-03 06225, 2021
CatQuest
i remember the main via thin, that was neat
2021-03-03 06258, 2021
reosarevok
It's nice design for a city
2021-03-03 06211, 2021
reosarevok
If only it had max 100k people in it, I'd even like it :D
2021-03-03 06223, 2021
ruaok
and getting better by the day.
2021-03-03 06232, 2021
ruaok
and without tourists? LOVELY.
2021-03-03 06237, 2021
shivam-kapila
Coming to city designs. My city is not at all designed CC _lucifer :p
2021-03-03 06253, 2021
CatQuest
design? hahah OSLO. hahah what
2021-03-03 06253, 2021
ruaok
lol
2021-03-03 06258, 2021
shivam-kapila
oof
2021-03-03 06202, 2021
CatQuest
oof reo
2021-03-03 06230, 2021
reosarevok
Well, yeah, I guess that's like at least as many people as the actual inhabitants
2021-03-03 06236, 2021
reosarevok
The tourist mass
2021-03-03 06252, 2021
reosarevok
I'm so happy nobody can be bothered to come here :D
2021-03-03 06201, 2021
_lucifer
shivam-kapila: lol true, i think only chandigarh was designed most other cities have very less planning around here
2021-03-03 06207, 2021
ruaok
I just love that all the greedy airbnb speculators ate shit at the start of the pandemic.
2021-03-03 06232, 2021
alastairp
shivam-kapila: the mockups look good for now, I don't think we have enough understanding of what we want to put on such a page yet though. I think it might be a good idea to focus on each of the widgets (we already have the 'you are following' and 'follow you'). Let's add one for mutually follow, and the compatibility indicator. Are you happy to work on the react components?
2021-03-03 06249, 2021
shivam-kapila
_lucifer: yeah. But as the city expands its becoming a mess.
2021-03-03 06255, 2021
shivam-kapila
alastairp: Yeah totally
2021-03-03 06256, 2021
reosarevok
ruaok: I guess rent prices haven't come down tho?
2021-03-03 06205, 2021
ruaok
only if you move.
2021-03-03 06215, 2021
ruaok
spanish landlords refuse to lower rents.
2021-03-03 06221, 2021
alastairp
reosarevok: a little. most airbnb speculators have their places up on idealista for 11 month contracts
2021-03-03 06225, 2021
shivam-kapila hands _lucifer some bangalore traffic. You gotta love this
2021-03-03 06230, 2021
ruaok
but are happy to have a flat sit empty for 6 months while a new tenant comes in.
2021-03-03 06243, 2021
shivam-kapila
same in India
2021-03-03 06244, 2021
alastairp
much cheaper than the same place on airbnb, but they're definitely going to kick you out when the tourists come back
2021-03-03 06255, 2021
alastairp
you can see immediately from the photos that it's one of those
2021-03-03 06210, 2021
atj
another unintentional consequence of technology based "disruption"
2021-03-03 06231, 2021
reosarevok
Not so sure about "unintentional", but :)
2021-03-03 06246, 2021
atj
it's an externality they never thought about
2021-03-03 06249, 2021
reosarevok
I mean, promoting greed seems kinda intentional, I guess gentrification isn't
2021-03-03 06250, 2021
atj
or cared about
2021-03-03 06254, 2021
alastairp
talking about following/follwers, I had a thought while thinking about how we differentiate ourselves from other social networks... Are we planning on making the list of followers/followees public? If I go to see information about reosarevok's profile can I see who he is following?
2021-03-03 06215, 2021
ruaok
I'd like that, alastairp
2021-03-03 06242, 2021
shivam-kapila
I wont like to see reosarevok followers at least :p
2021-03-03 06255, 2021
atj
yeah, it's a worrying thought
2021-03-03 06259, 2021
ruaok
lol
2021-03-03 06206, 2021
alastairp
ok, no problem. we can keep that
2021-03-03 06217, 2021
reosarevok
Wonder how long until we have fake users
2021-03-03 06223, 2021
alastairp
I was just thinking about how a site would work if you could follow someone, but no one could see who you followed
2021-03-03 06237, 2021
reosarevok
Recently I'm starting to get fake users liking my "I want to read this" *in Goodreads*
2021-03-03 06245, 2021
atj
I can't think of a reason why that should be kept private
2021-03-03 06246, 2021
reosarevok
Still not sure what their endgame is
2021-03-03 06220, 2021
reosarevok
"Person you never heard of likes you want to read this obscure Estonian book" sounds legit
2021-03-03 06222, 2021
alastairp
ruaok: iliekcomputers: I saw you throwing around ideas for URL structures for API this morning. is that solidified?
2021-03-03 06230, 2021
ruaok
alastairp: yes
2021-03-03 06241, 2021
reosarevok
So if they're there, I assume they'd also want to be in LB :p
2021-03-03 06204, 2021
ruaok
`/1/user/<user>/timeline-events/create/recording`is what we ended up with.
2021-03-03 06214, 2021
alastairp
great. that fits well with my comment on the planning doc
2021-03-03 06220, 2021
ruaok
my main point was to make sure that user centric calls go under /user
> talking about following/follwers, I had a thought while thinking about how we differentiate ourselves from other social networks... Are we planning on making the list of followers/followees public? If I go to see information about reosarevok's profile can I see who he is following?
2021-03-03 06208, 2021
shivam-kapila
This reminds me of "Will the blocked user be able to see this in some indirect way e.g. a disable follow button?"
2021-03-03 06211, 2021
alastairp
and if we already have a /1/user/<username> structure, it'll fit right in
2021-03-03 06232, 2021
ruaok
got link for that, alastairp ?
2021-03-03 06234, 2021
alastairp
shivam-kapila: yeah, we haven't talked much about what blocking means yet.
2021-03-03 06255, 2021
alastairp
ruaok: planning document, Follow user -> work to do (page 2)
2021-03-03 06215, 2021
shivam-kapila
alastairp: okay okay
2021-03-03 06239, 2021
_lucifer
ruaok: `sudo su - request_consumer` asks for a password
2021-03-03 06241, 2021
ruaok
k, it sounded like it was already implemented.
2021-03-03 06246, 2021
ruaok
_lucifer: hang on
2021-03-03 06209, 2021
ruaok ponders the reality of handing sudo access to someone named lucifer
2021-03-03 06217, 2021
alastairp
ruaok: iliekcomputers already implemented it, but in the main website namespace. this is just a case of moving an existing method to another file
2021-03-03 06219, 2021
_lucifer
lol
2021-03-03 06225, 2021
shivam-kapila
lol
2021-03-03 06257, 2021
ruaok
_lucifer: done. may need to log out and back in.
2021-03-03 06210, 2021
alastairp
iliekcomputers: are you making any pydantic models?
i remember ishaanshah deciding to use something out of the `listenbrainz` package because we wanted to re-use models in `listenbrainz_spark` and were running into import errors
2021-03-03 06249, 2021
iliekcomputers
they should be unified sure, but should they be inside `listenbrainz`, i'm not completely sure.
2021-03-03 06222, 2021
alastairp
that's a good point to consider
2021-03-03 06227, 2021
alastairp
as I mentioned in the ticket, I'm still a little unsure about the difference between domain models and database wrapper models
2021-03-03 06236, 2021
_lucifer
ruaok: there are uncommited local changes there. i tried stashing but a couple of files will get overwritten if i switch branch. can you take a look?
