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      • yvanzo
        Good time of the day!
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      • reosarevok
        Hi!
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      • reosarevok wonders about https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9382 - while I agree it's almost impossible a beginner editor would deserve an autoeditor nomination, should it be actively blocked by showing no link? Or should it still be possible for a case to be made and the community to decide?
      • 2021-03-24 08310, 2021

      • reosarevok
        At first I thought "sure, makes sense" but then I started wondering - we don't limit who can get picked now so that's a fairly big change in our restrictions if we do
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      • yvanzo
        It does not seem to be a big change to me as nominated editors always had a long editing history. It just follows current practice to lighten the display of editor’s profile.
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: quick check to make sure you don't think this goes against the spirit of something? ^ :)
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      • reosarevok
        Also, ruaok / bitmap / yvanzo / anyone else who wants to check my SQL to see if I'm missing stuff: I put a proposed query to find editors to remove on https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9356
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9356: Remove existing editors with no confirmed email and no OAuth tokens/edits/votes
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      • reosarevok
        That's... a lot of editors, heh
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      • reosarevok
        I'd be happy to get some eyes on it
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      • reosarevok
        Updated it to make sure the editor was created over 2 weeks earlier
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      • reosarevok
        It'd remove... 37% of all editors, heh
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      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] reosarevok opened pull request #2013 (master…MBS-9349): MBS-9349: Add Pinterest links to the sidebar https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
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      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: maybe check subscriptions too? (or does it requires a verified email?)
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      • yvanzo
        How many such accounts have been created since for the last 6 weeks?
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      • yvanzo
        -since
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      • yvanzo
        If many, it might be worth running this script with monthly cron.
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      • ruaok
        reosarevok: on MBS-9382... is it a problem currently?
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9382: Do not display "nominate for auto-editor" for Limited Users https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9382
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      • ruaok
        reosarevok: on that query, what about last login date? how many users have never logged in?
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: well, I guess zas thinks it clutters for no reason :)
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      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: 1288 (and that's MBS-9358)
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9358: Remove existing editors with no confirmed email within 2 weeks of account creation https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9358
      • 2021-03-24 08324, 2021

      • reosarevok
        ruaok: hmm, I thought that'd get set when they create the account, but maybe not? Lemme see
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: 193397 aparentl
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      • reosarevok
        y
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      • ruaok
        wow.
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      • reosarevok
        But it must be older ones
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      • reosarevok
        Because that's last_login_date TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE DEFAULT now(),
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, last of those were created 2013
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      • reosarevok
        Anything newer than that will have a login date by default
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      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: also, checking subscriptions makes sense I guess. I can't imagine it will make a big difference in the number of users and we can avoid disrupting the two of them with a weird usage pattern :D
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      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: hmm, there's 679 of those. A lot more than I expected, even if a tiny amount all things considered
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      • reosarevok
        Sure, let's exclude them
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      • ruaok
        zas: this should make you feel better about our single points of failure: https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/137443821031…
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      • ruaok
        one blocked ship and global shipping is FUCKED. #notmycircus
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      • zas
        :D
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      • zas
        they didn't make suez channel redundant....
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      • zas
        (yet)
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      • ruaok
        they did! panama!
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      • ruaok runs away
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      • zas
        lol
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      • _lucifer
        one more ship in panama canal and entire global shipped ddosed
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      • zas
        a ddos would be many many little boats at high speed entering the channel
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      • ruaok
        for me there is no question that the world is doomed. #screwcapitalism
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      • ruaok
        zas: did you see the pictures of the traffic in the channel.
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      • ruaok
        its a DDoS with CONTAINER SHIPS. #nightmares
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      • zas
        yup true
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      • shivam-kapila
        What did I see O_O
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: re MBS-9382 yes to blocking for "limited" no to blocking for "beginner"
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9382: Do not display "nominate for auto-editor" for Limited Users https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9382
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: limited is the same as beginner, we just renamed it :D
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      • reosarevok
        (nowadays it's called beginner, it used to be limited)
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      • shivam-kapila is still a beginner
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      • CatQuest
        oh. i meant limited ere as in "those we for reasons set to as limited"
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      • CatQuest
        see shivam-kapila's example. for ... social reasons, we should not remove this. it can be as simple that beginners see tis text on other's or theri own? profile and raslises there's soemthingot strive towards
      • 2021-03-24 08321, 2021

      • CatQuest
        idk
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      • reosarevok
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      • CatQuest
        wait whyare people calling it "Ever Given" when it says "Evergreen" on it?
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      • reosarevok
        Evergreen is the brand
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      • CatQuest
        oh
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      • reosarevok
        Ever Given is this specific boat
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      • reosarevok
        Ship, whatever :D
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      • CatQuest found a later comment down the thread also explaining
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      • CatQuest
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: this should only be shown if the user viewing it can nominate the user, so only for autoeditors, IIRC :)
      • 2021-03-24 08342, 2021

      • reosarevok
        I mean, the link, not the giant sea penis
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      • CatQuest
        ooh, thne i'm deff agasint removing it. it's extra code for no good reason
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      • CatQuest
        again, link, not seaknob
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      • reosarevok
        I kinda tend to agree that it's not worth special-casing
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      • CatQuest off to the library
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      • reosarevok
        If we eventually decide to officially set some minimum requisites for autoeditorship, then we should hide the link for users that do not reach those, but right now, they don't exist - it's all community consensus
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      • ruaok
        everyone: should MeB take a stand on this? https://rms-open-letter.github.io/
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      • ruaok
        +1 from me. I just tweeted personally.
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      • prabal_
        Hi Mr_Monkey
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      • Mr_Monkey
        Hiya
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      • prabal_
        i started with my gsoc proposal, it's still not complete yet, but it'd be nice if you can have a look at it and let me know it's on the right track
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      • prabal_
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      • Mr_Monkey
        Let's do all of that on the public forum prabal_ :)
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      • prabal_
        yeah alright
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      • Mr_Monkey
        It's fine to have WIP proposals there, and gives the opportunity for other people to give feedback
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      • prabal_
        yeah alright
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      • _lucifer
        ruaok, +1
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      • prabal_
        is it alright if instead of making a markdown i just post the link on the forum?
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      • Mr_Monkey
        No, the text needs to be readable on the forum
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      • _lucifer
        alastairp, are we on for the BU upgrade and lb release today?
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      • Mr_Monkey
        But there are ways to convert GDocs to markdown
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Of course old relationship type edit data is also bullshit :D
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      • reosarevok
        (I expect this was not a label-label relationship)
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      • Mr_Monkey
        ruaok: Fuck Stallman.
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      • alastairp
        _lucifer: hi! I'm here
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      • alastairp
        let me mint a BU release
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      • alastairp
        what's the LB release process at? do we have changes to release? if so we should do that beforehand
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      • Mr_Monkey
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      • Mr_Monkey
        :p
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      • alastairp
        sure. I guess _lucifer made updates according to my review
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      • alastairp
        I was trying to make the release with the BU upgrade (pr to come) a single release
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      • alastairp
        so that we do a few cycles of merge->immediately release
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      • alastairp
        to prevent this issue of lots of changes in a single release that cause drama
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      • _lucifer
        alastairp: one comment remaining to be addressed on that PR, regarding checking if the user is following the other user before unfollowing
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      • alastairp
        I just saw that comment by you
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      • alastairp
        I don't mind either way, but I don't think that it's an "error" to unfollow someone who you're not following
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      • _lucifer
        i am fine either way as well. ruaok, Mr_Monkey, iliekcomputers thoughts?
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      • Mr_Monkey
        I agree that it shouldn't throw an error
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      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        _lucifer: OK, let's just remove that check then (and make sure that the call to `db_user_relationship.delete` doesn't fail if there's no such relationship)
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      • _lucifer
        👍
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      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] reosarevok opened pull request #2014 (master…MBS-9310): MBS-9310: Link to relationship type in Add Relationship Type edits https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
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      • BrainzGit
        [brainzutils-python] release v1.17.0 has been published by github-actions[bot]: https://github.com/metabrainz/brainzutils-python/…
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      • alastairp
        _lucifer: ^
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      • _lucifer
        alastairp: shouldn't we also merge ratelimit prs or sentry prs in BU? or do we intend to do separate releases for each of that?
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      • alastairp
        I was thinking that we should do separate releases
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      • alastairp
        otherwise there are too many things changing (and we should also update CB/AB/MeB when we do the ratelimit/sentry pr, so that's a bunch of extra work)
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      • alastairp
        I see that there are a handful of small commits since the last release
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      • _lucifer
        agreed.
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      • alastairp
        Mr_Monkey: did we release your fix for the charts? it appears to not be released yet
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      • Mr_Monkey
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      • Mr_Monkey
        Merged but not released yet
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      • alastairp
        yeah, that one