streaming replication still isn't working between them, but I've made a lot of progress on that
2016-10-03 27733, 2016
bitmap
mostly silly networking and file permission issues
2016-10-03 27704, 2016
bitmap
yvanz / chirlu started submitting more mbs prs, so I was also reviewing / merging those :)
2016-10-03 27732, 2016
Freso
!m yvanz / chirlu
2016-10-03 27732, 2016
BrainzBot
You're doing good work, yvanz / chirlu!
2016-10-03 27745, 2016
bitmap
at the the hack weekend I was mostly messing with consul with help from zas, and it seems to be running properly now
2016-10-03 27702, 2016
bitmap
he did 99% of the work though
2016-10-03 27703, 2016
Freso
bitmap: Over the jetlag yet?
2016-10-03 27710, 2016
bitmap
yes, I think so
2016-10-03 27720, 2016
Freso
:)
2016-10-03 27728, 2016
bitmap
(fin)
2016-10-03 27747, 2016
ruaok
bitmap, Gentlecat: coming to the office tomorrow? I was stuck doing accounting today.
2016-10-03 27758, 2016
ruaok
but I want to chat/pick your brains about the repos you started today.
2016-10-03 27709, 2016
ruaok
I need to do all that for the search stuff.
2016-10-03 27726, 2016
Freso
bitmap: Pick next one when you've answered ruaok :)
2016-10-03 27752, 2016
bitmap
ruaok: yeah, I should come tomorrow
2016-10-03 27705, 2016
bitmap
uhh Freso?
2016-10-03 27710, 2016
ruaok
great. lets get lunch too.
2016-10-03 27711, 2016
Freso
🙋
2016-10-03 27720, 2016
Freso
Yay! Lunch! 🙌
2016-10-03 27737, 2016
Freso
Anyway. I have also been in BCN last weekend.
2016-10-03 27742, 2016
Freso
Then I went home.
2016-10-03 27749, 2016
Freso
And then I went home from my old home.
2016-10-03 27701, 2016
Freso
Ie., I'm now in BCN again.
2016-10-03 27718, 2016
Freso
And it's weird, man.
2016-10-03 27743, 2016
gcilou
Freso: do you have a place yet? or just crashing ruaok's?
2016-10-03 27743, 2016
Freso
It hasn't quite settled with me. Will probably feel more real once I actually have a place to live etc. :)
2016-10-03 27748, 2016
Freso
gcilou: ^
2016-10-03 27749, 2016
gcilou
ah
2016-10-03 27703, 2016
ruaok
crashing on my couch right now.
2016-10-03 27726, 2016
Freso
Anyway. BCN round 1 and the dev./hack "weekend".
2016-10-03 27720, 2016
Freso
We were off to a slow start as bitmap came a day later than originally planned, but it was nice getting the core developers together.
2016-10-03 27711, 2016
Freso
We met up on Friday and had a briefing (ended up being the only briefing we had the weekend) about where we were and where we wanted to be and how we should probably get there.
2016-10-03 27756, 2016
Freso
Ie., dockerise all the things - with a lot of focus on getting musicbrainz.org fully dockerised and copied to NewHost so we can start (stress) testing it.
2016-10-03 27718, 2016
Freso
We weren't fully there on Monday, and I'm not sure how far we've gotten during the week.
2016-10-03 27706, 2016
Freso
Anyway, this is basically what zas, ruaok, bitmap, and Gentlecat worked on as chirlu was working on some other scripts to help with the testing part once we've actually gotten the servers up.
2016-10-03 27739, 2016
chirlu
DoS-ing NewHost!
2016-10-03 27756, 2016
Freso
We managed to see fireworks on the beach, projections on the city center, and of course the correfoc during the Merce.
2016-10-03 27717, 2016
Freso
And managed to get amazing gelato on the very last night.
2016-10-03 27720, 2016
ruaok
I went to anohter correfoc and learnt that when you get burnt on a burn, that it doesn't feel so good.
2016-10-03 27738, 2016
Freso
FeelsBadMan.jpg
2016-10-03 27715, 2016
ruaok
fin?
2016-10-03 27717, 2016
Freso
I managed to catch up ever so slightly on my community management duties during last weekend, when I was not looking stuff up or fetching food.
2016-10-03 27746, 2016
Freso
But then I went home and was fully absorbed into packing and cleaning mode, so I expect to be quite a bit behind again. :(
2016-10-03 27754, 2016
Freso
I hope to be able to get caught up this week.
2016-10-03 27756, 2016
Freso
Fin.
2016-10-03 27759, 2016
Freso
LordSputnik!
2016-10-03 27704, 2016
LordSputnik
ACK
2016-10-03 27724, 2016
LordSputnik
So, these past two weeks I've been making steady progress on the new editing interface for BookBrainz
2016-10-03 27711, 2016
LordSputnik
Most of the client-side JS is now written, and I'll start moving on to making some small updates to the server code before opening a PR
2016-10-03 27729, 2016
LordSputnik
It'll also be up for some testing/feedback once I have a stable IP address here :P
2016-10-03 27742, 2016
LordSputnik
Redux is pretty fantastic
2016-10-03 27754, 2016
LordSputnik
fin.
2016-10-03 27739, 2016
LordSputnik
(I'll also push about 30 commits once I get some decent internet)
2016-10-03 27725, 2016
LordSputnik
zas next? or has he been?
2016-10-03 27731, 2016
zas
I was in BCN, happy to meet people there :) We discussed about the new architecture, docker, swarm, etc.... I upgraded (and rebooted) servers multiple times due to (mainly) openssl vulnerabilities fixes, also we have a silly clock on good ol' wiley, nothing much to do (and we move to new servers soon). I wonder about JIRA (it is the last thing on wiley) and
2016-10-03 27731, 2016
zas
how we should handle the move for it.
2016-10-03 27732, 2016
ruaok
pick the next person.
2016-10-03 27732, 2016
Freso
zas is still up.
2016-10-03 27708, 2016
ruaok stumbled across this earlier https://goo.gl/photos/zWSnrByyDuqxGjPn9
I haven't seen any life sign from CatQuest or anyone else speaking up, so I think we're through.
2016-10-03 27726, 2016
Freso
ruaok: docker review!
2016-10-03 27737, 2016
ruaok
aight.
2016-10-03 27753, 2016
ruaok
so, it seems that Gentlecat and bitmap (and soon me) are blocked by getting gateways going.
2016-10-03 27756, 2016
ruaok
what is left, zas?
2016-10-03 27746, 2016
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: docker review (ruaok), HTTPS conversion of Wikipedia links (chirlu), translation of documentation (yvanz), weekly office gatherings (ruaok)
2016-10-03 27702, 2016
ruaok
oh za-as!
2016-10-03 27702, 2016
zas
Well, i think most is done but we need a lot of glue
2016-10-03 27723, 2016
ruaok
any chance you can get something going in the mornign?
2016-10-03 27708, 2016
zas
not sure, but i'll try to get something up tomorrow for sure, so we can start tests
2016-10-03 27734, 2016
ruaok
anything, as long as it passes traffic in some way.
2016-10-03 27749, 2016
ruaok
that should be the next goal, above all else right now.
2016-10-03 27758, 2016
alastairp
ruaok: they had the fiesta major on the superilla a few weeks ago, it was awesome
2016-10-03 27701, 2016
zas
It is for me
2016-10-03 27710, 2016
ruaok
zas: ok, great.
2016-10-03 27725, 2016
ruaok
alastairp: just saw that. I didn't get a chance to make it. :(
2016-10-03 27727, 2016
zas
but i still have to clean up old configs and tune them for new architecture
2016-10-03 27745, 2016
ruaok
can that be put off until something provisionary is in place?
2016-10-03 27727, 2016
ruaok
bitmap: tomorrow I would like to see about deploying the search stuff to see if it can connect to postgres.
2016-10-03 27754, 2016
ruaok
Gentlecat: bitmap: is there anything else blocking you guys right now?
2016-10-03 27719, 2016
bitmap
hmm not that I know of
2016-10-03 27722, 2016
ruaok
and just so that everyone knows: Our last day at digital west is on Nov 7.
2016-10-03 27722, 2016
Gentlecat
don't think so
2016-10-03 27727, 2016
ruaok
ok, very good.
2016-10-03 27740, 2016
Gentlecat
I just need to keep converting/testing stuff
2016-10-03 27745, 2016
ruaok
Nov 7, worst case Nov 8, I am going to go to our rack and shut everything down.
2016-10-03 27750, 2016
bitmap
search stuff will be nice to see if MBS can connect to it
2016-10-03 27758, 2016
Gentlecat
perhaps figure out what to do with dumps/backups in CB
2016-10-03 27701, 2016
ruaok
bitmap: we should be able to test that tomorrow.
2016-10-03 27708, 2016
bitmap
ok, good
2016-10-03 27709, 2016
Gentlecat
and replication packets in MeB
2016-10-03 27727, 2016
ruaok
Gentlecat: great, lets do that. each machine comes with a few hundred gigs in backup space.
2016-10-03 27751, 2016
ruaok
k. I'll put off more accounting nonsense until after bitmaps heads back.
2016-10-03 27704, 2016
ruaok
see if we can get search working and mbs requests going out
2016-10-03 27718, 2016
ruaok
anything else on search servers?
2016-10-03 27730, 2016
ruaok
err docker?
2016-10-03 27701, 2016
ruaok
also, I won't be around from the 14th - 18th. Or sparsely depending in net connectivity on the barge on the canal du midi.
2016-10-03 27710, 2016
ruaok
or on the farm in the alps in .ch. we'll see.
2016-10-03 27712, 2016
LordSputnik has quit
2016-10-03 27713, 2016
Freso
Guess not.
2016-10-03 27724, 2016
Freso
ruaok: Got anything else?
2016-10-03 27732, 2016
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: HTTPS conversion of Wikipedia links (chirlu), translation of documentation (yvanz), weekly office gatherings (ruaok)
2016-10-03 27734, 2016
ruaok
then on the 26th I head to the states and will pretty much not be available for actual real work then.
2016-10-03 27736, 2016
ruaok
fin.
2016-10-03 27740, 2016
Freso
chirlu: HTTPS conversion of Wikipedia links!
2016-10-03 27729, 2016
chirlu
So, as is generally known, a number of sites MB links to has turned HTTPS-only, and we’ve been converting Wikidata and Discogs URLs.
2016-10-03 27759, 2016
mihaitish joined the channel
2016-10-03 27728, 2016
chirlu
Now next up would be Wikipedia URLs. Arguments in favour: same as for WD/Discogs. Possible argument against: WP links are deprecated anyway, so we might not bother.
2016-10-03 27752, 2016
chirlu
However, in practice they will probably stay around for a year or longer.
2016-10-03 27714, 2016
chirlu
Decision problem: Convert Wikipedia URLs (s/^http:/https:/), too?
2016-10-03 27726, 2016
Freso
I'm usually all for HTTPSifying, but I'd say not to bother.
2016-10-03 27758, 2016
Freso
I mean. The URLCleanup should probably do it, but I wouldn't bother with correcting old entries.
2016-10-03 27715, 2016
bitmap
I agree with Freso
2016-10-03 27718, 2016
yvanz
Aren’t WP links sometimes more accurate than WD ones?
2016-10-03 27731, 2016
chirlu
Yes, URL cleanup does it. One issue with having both is that duplicates occur.
2016-10-03 27757, 2016
chirlu
I.e. people may add the HTTP and the HTTPS version of the same URL to different entities, and it isn’t immediately obvious.
2016-10-03 27712, 2016
Freso
How frequent is that?
2016-10-03 27713, 2016
yvanz
If we are going to drop all WP links in the end, I would support Freso’s opinion too.
2016-10-03 27724, 2016
chirlu
(Or, more practically, may add HTTPS when an old HTTP already exists somewhere else.)
2016-10-03 27731, 2016
Freso
yvanz: That's the plan/goal.
2016-10-03 27732, 2016
bitmap
maybe we need a report for urls that are the same other than the scheme
2016-10-03 27747, 2016
chirlu
Freso: Hard to tell. For WD/Discogs, it was a few hundred each.
2016-10-03 27755, 2016
Freso
bitmap: That's a good idea.
2016-10-03 27741, 2016
chirlu
I’m for conversion, actually. The amount of work involved is less than creating a new report.
2016-10-03 27759, 2016
chirlu
(Though the report might be useful for other types of URLs, too.)
2016-10-03 27705, 2016
Freso
But the report would wo... yeah.
2016-10-03 27753, 2016
bitmap
I'm also not against conversion if someone else wants to do the work, as before :)
2016-10-03 27708, 2016
yvanz
Since the reports will cover WP links as well, I wouldn’t bother about them for now.
2016-10-03 27721, 2016
Freso
Yeah.
2016-10-03 27747, 2016
Freso
I'm not gonna vote for rejecting the conversion if someone does the work for it.
2016-10-03 27711, 2016
chirlu
Well, the work was done by a cron job, but bitmap would have to update it. :-)
If *and only if* (since main efforts have to go to hosting switch) that can be *easily* installed on wiki.metabrainz.org, we could start to add localized pages, first about MB localization status for instance, before trying to translate real bits of documentation and to adapt MB-Server code to display it based on user preferred language.
