Anyway, I'm all for adopting a "beginner" label as well.
2017-01-02 00240, 2017
CatQuest
also true, a house size is huge to me
2017-01-02 00250, 2017
CatQuest
a planet would be near impossible
2017-01-02 00208, 2017
CallerNo6
Anyway, I agree with samj1912 that labels should be used to help newcomers find "starter" issues
2017-01-02 00224, 2017
chirlu
There are only 45 unresolved tickets with a size estimate in total.
2017-01-02 00224, 2017
CatQuest agrees too
2017-01-02 00235, 2017
Freso
CatQuest: We tried renaming them when we decided to use the size estimates, but realised it'd be too cumbersome, as Jira didn't have a good way of renaming the "sizes".
2017-01-02 00217, 2017
chirlu
And we didn’t find five different stone sizes that worked in every English variety. :-)
2017-01-02 00217, 2017
CatQuest
i for one is wht i don't use them, since ithey don't really map to what i feel are"sizes" a house sised taks is like, hell washing the entire house, thats a day's work rightthere
2017-01-02 00221, 2017
Freso
Newer Jira might have made this more approachable, so we may try and look into it again.
2017-01-02 00237, 2017
CatQuest
how about just "beginner" "easy" medium" etc? i mena ,seriously
2017-01-02 00237, 2017
yvanz
I think we miss tickets review just like we have code review.
2017-01-02 00217, 2017
samj1912
I think having just beginner/easy is enough, anything else depends on the dev imho
2017-01-02 00240, 2017
CatQuest
like, regular add instrument ask are really fast and easy, but the alias ones are harder for me
2017-01-02 00246, 2017
dseomn has quit
2017-01-02 00254, 2017
CatQuest
there is a diff between easy and beginner thoguh, as stated
2017-01-02 00235, 2017
CatQuest
also I think maybe having a "easy but timeconsuming" migt be abpliable
2017-01-02 00239, 2017
tigranl
Freso: Machine Learning is mentioned in organization description on the GCI page of MetaBrainz. Where is it used exactly?
2017-01-02 00256, 2017
CatQuest
applicable
2017-01-02 00257, 2017
anshuman73
tigranl: in AcousticBrainz and ListeBrainz
2017-01-02 00204, 2017
anshuman73
ListenBrainz*
2017-01-02 00220, 2017
Freso
CatQuest: But that difference is mostly dependent on the dev. (Gentlecat's comment, as I read it, was more that a small task might be difficult (e.g., add instrument aliases for an instrument), but a large task (add all African instruments) might be easy.)
2017-01-02 00223, 2017
Nulxis_
:)
2017-01-02 00224, 2017
Nulxis_
Freso
2017-01-02 00230, 2017
Nulxis_
meeting over?
2017-01-02 00242, 2017
CallerNo6
"beginner" seems more important than "easy" to me. "beginner" implies "if you're new to the codebase, this is a good place to start".
2017-01-02 00248, 2017
Freso
anshuman73 tigranl: And MessyBrainz, I think.
2017-01-02 00251, 2017
samj1912
yeah
2017-01-02 00254, 2017
Freso
And mbspotify.
2017-01-02 00201, 2017
samj1912
I agree with CallerNo6
2017-01-02 00204, 2017
CatQuest
Freso: exactly why "easy but time consuming" contra hard (large)
2017-01-02 00210, 2017
Freso
Nulxis_: Yes. The </BANG> signified the end of the meeting.
2017-01-02 00210, 2017
Nulxis_
Freso
2017-01-02 00211, 2017
CatQuest
+1 CallerNo6
2017-01-02 00214, 2017
Nulxis_
Freso I submitted :)
2017-01-02 00219, 2017
Freso
The stuff between <BANG> and </BANG> is the meeting.
"beginner", "small", "small but time consuming", "medium" "big but easy" "large" "this is never getting done" "something something you mama"
2017-01-02 00253, 2017
samj1912
lol :P
2017-01-02 00203, 2017
CatQuest
Freso: i was here when yo usaid that, and thne yo usaid about new jira maybe beign better for it so i'm commig up with ideas
2017-01-02 00219, 2017
CatQuest
dude, I'm a bit tired, not completely blind :P
2017-01-02 00231, 2017
yvanz
Freso: -7 on a soft curve desillusion.
2017-01-02 00232, 2017
samj1912
night people its 2:50 and I have a flight to catch in the morning :P
2017-01-02 00240, 2017
CatQuest
anyway i should make myself soem food while i ignore my stupid neigbour
2017-01-02 00247, 2017
CatQuest
\o samj1912
2017-01-02 00234, 2017
CatQuest
but my point about it not being a f.ex logaritmic scale still stands, we can easily label them (if we can rename them) with things more spesific to different levels of work" effort, so mundane timeconsuming tasks which are easy, contra a big, "difficult" task which might not at al lbe to long to do
2017-01-02 00258, 2017
samj1912
vacations end and college begins day after :P Ill try to keep up with the vacation mode me in terms of contributing :)
2017-01-02 00208, 2017
CatQuest
s/ contra a big, task which might not at all be to diificult
2017-01-02 00213, 2017
CatQuest
contra big long and timeconsuing tasks
2017-01-02 00221, 2017
CatQuest
contra ditto but also difficult
2017-01-02 00226, 2017
yvanz
CatQuest: At least, when closing a ticket, you know you did as much as a “house”, it is still better than a “peanut” or something. :)
2017-01-02 00205, 2017
CatQuest
honestly adding an instrument like this is like.. idk, a chair, some are almsot a sofa
2017-01-02 00219, 2017
CatQuest
the aliases are definitely an entire room to a house
2017-01-02 00221, 2017
Freso
samj1912: We're still a hobby for you. Be sure to give enough attention to your studies. We'll still be here. :)
2017-01-02 00245, 2017
CatQuest
and if everything goes right you might become a hired dev some day :P
2017-01-02 00205, 2017
Freso
CatQuest: Just put "doll" in front of everything. "Doll house", "doll village", "doll city", ...
2017-01-02 00206, 2017
yvanz
CatQuest: Everyone appreciate sofas!
2017-01-02 00214, 2017
CatQuest
what, me groom our gci students? perish the thought!
2017-01-02 00233, 2017
CatQuest
the frank is a doll city? like lego?
2017-01-02 00248, 2017
yvanz
!m samj1912, the flying picard.
2017-01-02 00248, 2017
BrainzBot
You're doing good work, samj1912, the flying picard.!
2017-01-02 00259, 2017
CatQuest
XD
2017-01-02 00212, 2017
CatQuest
what do I do to wanna add a languageto the locale thinger?
2017-01-02 00226, 2017
CatQuest
for example there is this instrument that's called su' in the Jakaltek language
2017-01-02 00230, 2017
Freso
CatQuest: Make an MBS ticket, I think.
2017-01-02 00235, 2017
CatQuest
ak
2017-01-02 00237, 2017
CatQuest
erh ok
2017-01-02 00215, 2017
chirlu
No, locales can’t be added like that.
2017-01-02 00231, 2017
CatQuest
neihei
2017-01-02 00235, 2017
chirlu
Languages can. (More precisely, they can be activated if they already are in the list.)
2017-01-02 00203, 2017
Nulxis_
Freso :)
2017-01-02 00247, 2017
CatQuest
so the asnwer is_: ask someone to see if "Jakaltek" is in it, and if so please activate it, but if it isn't it's.. uh
2017-01-02 00250, 2017
CatQuest
uh somehow my linked thing in my review was wrong
2017-01-02 00256, 2017
CatQuest
and i didn't notice until now
2017-01-02 00200, 2017
CatQuest
ugh stupid discourse
2017-01-02 00228, 2017
yvanz
chirlu: What about the qaa-qtz range?
2017-01-02 00236, 2017
Freso
And that "asking someone" is still basically "make a Jira ticket".
2017-01-02 00255, 2017
Freso
And if Jakaltek isn't in, that Jira ticket is used for tracking if/when it makes it in.
2017-01-02 00255, 2017
CatQuest
hmm having the hira have the same favico as discourse is confusing :/
2017-01-02 00212, 2017
CatQuest
so I *do* the mbs or then
2017-01-02 00228, 2017
CatQuest
also cna you give me a link to the place in the chatlogs where i started talknig about it?
2017-01-02 00232, 2017
CatQuest
please thank you
2017-01-02 00237, 2017
chirlu
yvanz: What about it?
2017-01-02 00239, 2017
Freso
I'd file it under MBS, yes.
2017-01-02 00247, 2017
Freso
CatQuest: In a second. About to review a video.
2017-01-02 00201, 2017
yvanz
chirlu: We could use it to add Jakaltek and other languages.
2017-01-02 00236, 2017
chirlu
Even if we could (I don’t think we should, but that’s immaterial), it would only give a language, not a locale.
2017-01-02 00210, 2017
chirlu
So you could mark a work as being written in $language, but not an alias as being from one of $language’s locales.
2017-01-02 00212, 2017
CatQuest
Freso: no worries: take your time, no stress
2017-01-02 00241, 2017
CatQuest
chirlu: and that's... actually pretty usefull if we coudl do that
2017-01-02 00201, 2017
yvanz
chirlu: Right, it just about language and it would not help on CatQuest issue.
2017-01-02 00204, 2017
CatQuest
or rather, if one could makr something as being a "script" rather thna langauge/locale
2017-01-02 00256, 2017
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github
[musicbrainz-server] anshuman73 opened pull request #424: MBS-7307: Show linkedIn URLs in the sidebar (master...linkedin_sidebar_integration) https://git.io/vMm8f
2017-01-02 00256, 2017
github has left the channel
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chirlu
That’s a completely different topic again.
2017-01-02 00228, 2017
Nulxis_
CAn someone apprive the meeting task?
2017-01-02 00250, 2017
CatQuest
well it's at the very least tangiental
2017-01-02 00211, 2017
CatQuest
, it has to do with things being easier to alias
2017-01-02 00230, 2017
Nulxis_
Freso why did you send it back??
2017-01-02 00249, 2017
Freso
Nulxis_: Are there are comments with a question on the task?
2017-01-02 00250, 2017
CatQuest
freso is currently reviewing another persons taks
2017-01-02 00253, 2017
Freso
*any
2017-01-02 00258, 2017
Nulxis_
Submitted
2017-01-02 00258, 2017
Nulxis_
:)
2017-01-02 00201, 2017
Nulxis_
THE nick :)
2017-01-02 00219, 2017
chirlu
bitmap: Not sure if you saw MBH-462. It’s likely it can only be investigated before the next release/deployment.
