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r_dunn
Sup peeps, there's a small mistake on this documentation page, anyone around that'd care to fix it?
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r_dunn
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CallerNo6
r_dunn, sure, what's the problem?
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CallerNo6
(and it *is* a wiki -- anybody can fix it)
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r_dunn
I thought as much, but I looked about and couldn't see where to edit. Actually, there's more than one mistake, some of the example queries don't work, they're missing characters etc.
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r_dunn
*Actually, the second one was my ignorance, but the first is def a mistake.
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SothoTalKer
r_dunn: documention pages are transcluded from the wiki. at the very bottom there is a link. but you need a wiki account to edit.
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SothoTalKer
r_dunn you could also file a ticket on the bug tracker. but that requires an account, too :D
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r_dunn
meh, it's only a small mistake, anyone worth their salt will realise what's wrong with the URI. Cheers though!
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CallerNo6
if you point out the mistake, I'm happy to fix it
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r_dunn
well that's embarrassing, i double checked and there's no mistake!
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SothoTalKer
CallerNo6: the freedb discid link gives an error, though ;)
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SothoTalKer
maybe update it with a discid that exist :3
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CallerNo6
SothoTalKer, yeah, I was about to add "other than freedb, which doent't work anymore"
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CallerNo6
er, *doesn't*
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SothoTalKer
on my first search query i got a server error ;)
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SothoTalKer
oh my god, look at the time '-'
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CallerNo6
an ISE or something else?
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SothoTalKer
ISE
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CallerNo6
Not unheard of, will probably sort itself out.
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CallerNo6
Yeah, I just got an ISE too. Refreshed and it worked.
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CallerNo6
freedb searches, however, are 404. I assue I can remove freedb from the search docs altogether, right?
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CallerNo6 reads https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/pull/409
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SothoTalKer
this would mean: yes
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SothoTalKer
why not comment it out first ;)
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r_dunn
Can anyone tell me how the "ext:score" of a release-group is calculated?
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r_dunn
nm, found info on it...
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r_dunn
Something seems iffy about the lucene scoring algorithm. The following search for Nirvana's "Nevermind" scores it joint second after "Nevermind Sessions" and on par with "Nevermind, It's an Interview".
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r_dunn
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r_dunn
Anyone know if I'm doing something wrong?
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r_dunn
Meh, the document length normalisation is messing up the ordering. Nobody here that's worked on the search engine?
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SothoTalKer
european fellows
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SothoTalKer
mayhem is responsible for search server, at least he's listed as project lead on the bugtracker ^-^
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Leo_Verto
r_dunn, just search for the artist "Drake" :P
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Leo_Verto
the current search algo is really not optimal
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Leo_Verto
I think CatCat fixed most of it but a polish folk group called "Drake" was listed as having done a few collaborations with high profile pop stars
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r_dunn
Yeah, it's kinda annoying to use the API programmatically if you have to write a client side search algorithm as well. :/
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SothoTalKer
eh, search is not responsible for linking the wrong artists to recordings and releases :D
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SothoTalKer
that's what people do. and other people try to untangle that mess again :x
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Leo_Verto
well, but it should probably order artists of the same name by "popularity" whatever that metric is
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CatQuest
I did? I don't remember that :D
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SothoTalKer
look at the time '-'
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r_dunn
In my example above, it's all Nirvana, but it's ranking longer release-group names as being more relevant
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r_dunn
this is possibly a really simple fix, just balancing the normalisation weights..
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r_dunn
I'll ask on the forums...
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CatQuest
but I've been editing for over 10 years, go knows I've done in odd things
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CatQuest
hey Leo_Verto, do you know if the bookbrainz is operational now? last i heard it's a bit on the bink?or is that erranous
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Leo_Verto
what do you mean by operational? was it broken?
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Leo_Verto
either way, I don't really know, haven't worked on BB in quite a while
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CatQuest
I dunno. i seem to remember some sort of "it's broken" but it seems working at
bookbrainz.org :)
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CallerNo6
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r_dunn
lol, and just about 3 seconds after I start a new thread on the forums... :D
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CallerNo6
The scoring is kind of a mystery. The search server is known to be idiosyncratic. The original dev isn't involved anymore (afaik).
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CallerNo6
It's (the search server) been adopted recently by an active dev.
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r_dunn
Cool, thanks for the info. Do you know if it's running Lucene? I'm kinda assuming it does given the API format...
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CallerNo6
Yes, it is. The goal is to move over to solr.
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CallerNo6
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CallerNo6
oops. wait, wrong link
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CallerNo6
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CallerNo6
So you can use some lucene syntax in your queries, if that's what you were wondering.
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r_dunn
No, I was looking at the lucene scoring algorithm
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r_dunn
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r_dunn
*To figure out why the order was messed up.
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r_dunn
But it's bedtime for me I'm afraid, I've bookmarked those links and will take a look tomorrow, cheers!
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BrainzBot
PICARD-933: MP3/ID3 Tags corrupted on save
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samj1912
I will proceed with PICARD-257 once this is merged :)
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BrainzBot
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zas
samj1912: yes, 586 looks ok to me, but i will not merge it before 1.4.0 in a week, features/strings are frozen
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samj1912
ah okay :)
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samj1912
anything I can do right now?
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samj1912
for 1.4.0?
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samj1912
also I never knew we could replace cover art using drag drop before completing PICARD-258 :P
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BrainzBot
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samj1912
shouldn't we provide some kind of tooltip/clue for that?
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zas
yup can be handy, though i think we could use a better handling of drag'n'drop for cover art, it doesn't work very well
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zas
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BrainzBot
PICARD-935: Icon colour incorrect after 503 and refresh
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zas
until release, i will accept fixes for current features
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samj1912
zas yeah, I saw that
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samj1912
happens to me as well at times?
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zas
after the release, we'll have prolly a bunch of bug fixes to do
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samj1912
yeah
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zas
so 1.4.1 will come soon after
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samj1912
also its hard to replicate that bug because 503 happens randomly
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samj1912
but I have experience it too sometimes
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zas
you can simulate them, adding some debug code
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samj1912
hmm, let me try :)
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github
[picard] samj1912 opened pull request #587: Add tooltip for Scan toolbar button (master...gui)
https://git.io/vM5Uz
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