ruaok and other Barcelonians: I will spend a few days in Barcelona around April 1st
2017-02-27 05815, 2017
loujine
how about I pass by the metabrainz HQ? (and bring some icelandic chocolate of course)
2017-02-27 05821, 2017
ruaok
you should come and visit us in the office?
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
ruaok
yep. :)
2017-02-27 05826, 2017
loujine
\o/
2017-02-27 05851, 2017
ruaok
wooo, that sounds great. maybe in the late afternoon and then we can go for dinner afterwards?
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
loujine
I'll have to check, I'm coming for a long week-end with some friends so I don't know yet when I'll be free
2017-02-27 05847, 2017
loujine
I'll probably leave on Monday evening or Tuesday
2017-02-27 05848, 2017
ruaok
k, ping us closer to the time and we'll sort it. that weekend seems clear so far.
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
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loujine
cool
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
r_dunn
Doe's anyone know where I can find a definitive list of "joinphrases", like: ' & ', ' feat. ', ' vs. ' ?
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
r_dunn
*Does.. (doe's?)
2017-02-27 05801, 2017
ruaok
there isn't a definitive list, except for the contents of a database table
2017-02-27 05820, 2017
ruaok
meaning that we don't have pre-set list. people enter whatever they need.
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
ruaok
the list is 4,221 items long. :)
2017-02-27 05826, 2017
Lotheric
avec, med, con, x
2017-02-27 05828, 2017
Lotheric
;)
2017-02-27 05859, 2017
ruaok
feat
2017-02-27 05809, 2017
r_dunn
right.. thanks for the info
2017-02-27 05814, 2017
ruaok
posting this list would likely be a good hint at what needs cleaning up. there are lots of things that don't look right.
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2017-02-27 05829, 2017
CallerNo6
Question about the server css and the docs. If anybody remembers. Were the header styles on the server chosen with the docs in mind? Or is it a sitewide thing that just happens to be applied to docs as well?
2017-02-27 05810, 2017
CallerNo6
MBS-5906 is a result of header styles in layout.less, from what I can tell.
Leftmost: have you coffeed? (is it morning where you are?) are you avail for some BB questions?
2017-02-27 05807, 2017
ruaok isn't sure why Leftmost is still up
2017-02-27 05821, 2017
Leftmost
It's very early where I am, but I'm up late and for the foreseeable future. (And I've had a significant quantity of masala chai.)
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
Leftmost
ruaok, I've been sick over the last week. My sleep schedule is now all over the map.
2017-02-27 05852, 2017
ruaok
booo, sucky. hope you get well soon.
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
ruaok still has bits of a hacking cough from the last week
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
Leftmost
Thanks.
2017-02-27 05853, 2017
Leftmost
I love Missoula, but it has two disadvantages: the nature of the valley lends itself to sinus infections, and it's not technically recognized as part of Canada yet.
2017-02-27 05801, 2017
Quesito
mmmmm chai, complex and quite delicious....let me know if you are up for some q's, if not we can touchbase another time. hope you get to feeling better :)
2017-02-27 05834, 2017
Leftmost
I'm up for some questions, as long as I don't have to move my toes out from under warm blankets.
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
Leftmost is proud of the chai: he used homemade chai masala for it.
2017-02-27 05810, 2017
Quesito
Missoula--I think i had a pretty epic sandwich there once....
2017-02-27 05835, 2017
Leftmost
Hmm. Epic sandwich... Staggering Ox?
2017-02-27 05835, 2017
Freso
reosarevok: We should ask the BBC to be better at telling artists how to find their MBID.
2017-02-27 05853, 2017
reosarevok
Yeah, I guess - but who?
2017-02-27 05856, 2017
Freso
And by "we" I mean whomever has contact with the BBC.
2017-02-27 05859, 2017
reosarevok
njh maybe
2017-02-27 05804, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: sounds close to what i remember.
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
reosarevok
ruaok: do we have any better BBC contact to pester or is njh still the most appropriate?
2017-02-27 05802, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: can you tell me a little general bit at where you are at with BB?
2017-02-27 05840, 2017
ruaok
even njh is appropriate anymore -- he's off on some BBC tangent right now. and Sara G has left to you YT. And she didn't pass off the relationship yet, meh.
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
ruaok
I guess I need to chase this up and then let you know who it is. I'll get back to you.
2017-02-27 05814, 2017
Leftmost
We're able to take in data, but our editing interface is pretty terrible. We've been focusing on improving that; the new interface for the first of the five entity types is in place, but we need to finalize designs for the other four, which will be trickier. We have no web service, and some tech debt to address before we can get started on one.
2017-02-27 05815, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: I googled--yes I believe epic sandwich was from staggering ox. now I'm hungry.
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
reosarevok
Thanks ruaok. thuaok
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
Leftmost
(Is that sufficiently clear? Let me know if you need more.)
2017-02-27 05803, 2017
Quesito
yes--what kind of tech debt?
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
ruaok
thouak from the jungle is glad to help!
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
Leftmost
Our data access layer is a bit of a nightmare. It does the job right now, but it will make constructing the objects for the web service unnecessarily difficult.
2017-02-27 05854, 2017
Leftmost
The idea is to make it present the useful objects as-is, so the web service can just be a translator between routes and objects.
2017-02-27 05815, 2017
Leftmost
(Which will also make for more useful objects in the site code.)
Leftmost: no no worries (at least for the moment) Can you tell me the goals of BB?
2017-02-27 05820, 2017
samj1912
It's another Foss org, they are looking for an open source audio fingerprinter and audio analyzer, I was thinking of recommending acoustid and acoustic brainz to them
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
Freso
I think they had a GSoC task last your for doing some music/audio analysis stuff, and I went to tell them about AB and essentia.
2017-02-27 05830, 2017
Freso
*year
2017-02-27 05834, 2017
samj1912
Yeah :p
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
samj1912
They have the same this year
2017-02-27 05845, 2017
Freso
But yes, go ahead and go and tell them about it. ;)
2017-02-27 05847, 2017
samj1912
And I did the same :p
2017-02-27 05858, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: I'm looking for more overview--but it also helps to know your sticking points at the moment.
2017-02-27 05859, 2017
Freso
:)
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: it also seems the openlib has last been touched in 2015, is there any relationship with them (besides our CAA) ?
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
samj1912
Acoustid is open-source too right?
2017-02-27 05827, 2017
Freso
5:40 hours until GSoC org. reveal!
2017-02-27 05829, 2017
Freso
samj1912: Yes.
2017-02-27 05847, 2017
Freso
Also, IIRC, AcousticBrainz as such isn't really relevant to what they do, but Essentia might be.
2017-02-27 05848, 2017
samj1912
Cool :D
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
samj1912
They wanted beat detection
2017-02-27 05817, 2017
Leftmost
For me, I see the goal being to create a resource which can provide for books what MB does for music: sufficient comprehensiveness to be useful to the average user, sufficient simplicity to allow most anyone to jump in and add something, sufficient potential for complexity to at least be expandable to serve a wide variety of needs.
2017-02-27 05840, 2017
Freso
"You will write Analyzers to calculate [a number of things]" - this is what Essentia does.
2017-02-27 05850, 2017
Quesito
ok this is what I assumed/hoped :)
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
samj1912
Not sure if acoustic brainz might help with that, but since they wanted to tag audio assets, i just recommended it to them in case they wanted to expand on that
2017-02-27 05816, 2017
Leftmost
And an editing system which is both easy to work with (easier than MB's) and powerful enough to keep our data quality high.
2017-02-27 05829, 2017
Freso
samj1912: Yes, but beat detection is in the low-level, so that's by essentia. Essentia is a step before AB. :)
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
Freso
AcoustID might work well for the fingerprinting though.
2017-02-27 05803, 2017
Leftmost
As far as OL, there's no direct relationship. I'd like to keep track of OL IDs as one of our possible identifiers, but that's all on our side.
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
Freso
Ah, except that they want "to provide song detection (like shazam)". AcoustID can't do that.
2017-02-27 05833, 2017
Quesito
ok, and right now as explained above you are trying to fix the editing interface
2017-02-27 05810, 2017
Quesito
Do we have a lot of data in BB currently?
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
Leftmost
Part of the reason I wanted to create BB was that OL was struggling even that many years ago and didn't make contributing code easy. In the end, I think they had different goals anyhow.
2017-02-27 05826, 2017
Leftmost
Some, but not a lot.
2017-02-27 05816, 2017
Quesito
It does seem that OL exists...but is not being used...
2017-02-27 05852, 2017
Quesito
ok--so you need quite a bit of work on the editing interface, what else do you need?
