so you get to se the pattern of how old they are contra how old they where whne they joined
2017-08-03 21549, 2017
Quesito
Leo_Verto: do we wanna do some graphs perhaps for a "presentation of results" or such?
2017-08-03 21557, 2017
CatQuest
yes!
2017-08-03 21557, 2017
Leo_Verto
I know, I'd love to do that, but users responded to the survey under the impression that I wouldn't cross-reference the demographic data with anything else (e.g. to find out the MB usernames or email addresses of industry people)
2017-08-03 21558, 2017
Leo_Verto
yes
2017-08-03 21559, 2017
Leo_Verto
definitely
2017-08-03 21500, 2017
CatQuest
those are cool
2017-08-03 21500, 2017
Leo_Verto
graphs all the way
2017-08-03 21501, 2017
Leo_Verto
and a map
2017-08-03 21520, 2017
Quesito
maybe close down the survey a few weeks ahead of Oct 1st then....
2017-08-03 21542, 2017
CatQuest
Leo_Verto: but isn't "demographics" also the sort of things like "members by age, gender(orwhatever) shoesize, time joined" etc?
2017-08-03 21548, 2017
CatQuest
maybe i understnad the word wrong..
2017-08-03 21502, 2017
Leo_Verto
the language and country questions will need some cleanup but I'm really looking forward to the map of users worldwide
2017-08-03 21508, 2017
CatQuest
:O
2017-08-03 21512, 2017
CatQuest
that soudns really cool
2017-08-03 21514, 2017
Quesito
me too Leo_Verto!!!
2017-08-03 21519, 2017
Quesito
sound super cool
2017-08-03 21543, 2017
CatQuest
oh so not "avarage age by continent" is not ok?
2017-08-03 21500, 2017
Quesito working on artists worldwide right now....
2017-08-03 21502, 2017
Leo_Verto
CatQuest: the "for how long have you been using MB"-question is not part of the demo data
2017-08-03 21503, 2017
CatQuest
aww, but I love silly things liek that :O
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Leo_Verto
"average age by continent" is fine
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CatQuest
Leo_Verto: it wasn't???
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CatQuest
oh.
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CatQuest
i thoguht it was
2017-08-03 21529, 2017
Leo_Verto
but I'm going to seperate the demo data from the rest and scramble the order of both
2017-08-03 21506, 2017
CatQuest
no wai, I remember explicitly telling for how long
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Leo_Verto
well yeah, it's part of the first section
2017-08-03 21504, 2017
CatQuest
uhh.. ok i don't understand and probably it's becasue attentino or english
2017-08-03 21521, 2017
Leo_Verto
hmm, let me try to explain it
2017-08-03 21536, 2017
Leo_Verto
we've got the general MB questions and the demo questions
2017-08-03 21549, 2017
Leo_Verto
in the survey, I promised to process and analyze the demo data seperately from the rest
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CatQuest
yea the test survey
2017-08-03 21504, 2017
CatQuest
wait? that was to be included?
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Leo_Verto
with the idea that people may be more open if they know that their personal data isn't referenced to their other answers, including their username or email
2017-08-03 21510, 2017
Leo_Verto
so what I'm going to do is split them into two datasets, one of general questions and for demo
2017-08-03 21526, 2017
CatQuest
but the demo was jsut for testing???
2017-08-03 21506, 2017
Leo_Verto
both of those are going to be released (without usernames and emails of course) and I'll analyze both in seperate blog posts, using only the data that is publicly released
2017-08-03 21529, 2017
Leo_Verto
and that means I can't cross-reference them or people would be able to figure out which demo data entry is associated to which general data entry
2017-08-03 21539, 2017
CatQuest
but what if someone added bogus info i nthe test version+ I mena i basically copy pasted my answers
2017-08-03 21502, 2017
Leo_Verto
oh, I'm not really talking about that right now
2017-08-03 21512, 2017
Leo_Verto
the test version answers are not going to be included
2017-08-03 21518, 2017
CatQuest
uh.. so what is "demo"
2017-08-03 21526, 2017
Leo_Verto
I've got the response date as part of the data after all
2017-08-03 21528, 2017
Leo_Verto
demographics data
2017-08-03 21543, 2017
CatQuest
oh
2017-08-03 21513, 2017
CatQuest
uh bit as i took it i was unaware that some parts were "demograpic" and others wher "nope"
2017-08-03 21550, 2017
CatQuest
anyway I am not suggestings 1-1 cross refrencials. I am talking about a grap that shows the general trend of "how old" vs "how long in mb"
2017-08-03 21502, 2017
CatQuest
those shouldn't be able to refrence to things lie kusernames
2017-08-03 21542, 2017
CatQuest
nor should you be able to pinpoint that *this* 50 year old is *this* long in mb* is *this spesifc person with other answers*
2017-08-03 21514, 2017
CatQuest
it's bsically to answer this question i was wondering: the majority of our 50 or ouler, did they start mb when 50 or older or wher ethey 40 or older at the time :D
2017-08-03 21516, 2017
Leo_Verto
that'd require at least some fuzzying of the data or outliers (like the one 81-year-old) would still be indetifiable
2017-08-03 21546, 2017
CatQuest
hmm..
2017-08-03 21556, 2017
CatQuest
well aren't most grpahs a it fuzzy?
2017-08-03 21504, 2017
CatQuest
:D
2017-08-03 21505, 2017
Quesito
now we get into data ethics....:D
2017-08-03 21516, 2017
CatQuest
but ok, I think I get your objectino now
2017-08-03 21520, 2017
CatQuest
i was very confused :)
2017-08-03 21524, 2017
Quesito
Leo_Verto: I'll keep trying with the reminders on twitter and such...I go on a bit of holiday till after you return...so maybe we formulate a plan for the closure timing and graph work first week in September?
2017-08-03 21516, 2017
Leo_Verto
sure
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Quesito
right on
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[listenbrainz-server] paramsingh opened pull request #243: Make info view accessible only for logged in current user (production...login-required) https://git.io/v7237
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[sir] gentlecat opened pull request #24: Additional fixes for the wscompat.convert module (master...converter) https://git.io/v72lz
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[sir] gentlecat opened pull request #25: Capture log messages with Sentry (master...logging) https://git.io/v72Bg
I'm trying to see if there are any issues with the implementation
2017-08-03 21502, 2017
Gentlecat
have some issues with release updates
2017-08-03 21513, 2017
Gentlecat
with release-group core and `releases` path I hit an error because I get a PK `release_group` for this selection: `SELECT release_group.id FROM musicbrainz.release_group WHERE release_group.id IN (:ids)`
2017-08-03 21503, 2017
Gentlecat
so I don't have a reference to pick a PK from the original message `{"_table": "release", "id": 1978055}`
2017-08-03 21538, 2017
CatQuest
Zastai: a screensgort of wh you mean would be ace becasue that sounds vey weird
2017-08-03 21523, 2017
Zastai
I created a ticket for it. Basically the tracklist is rendered in grey with the stippled underline and the "deleted, cannot display properly" tooltip
