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      • CatQuest
        ack, why am I getting a ISE when trying to add https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ5AY8Bf5C8 as a recording to https://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/c2218494-af69…
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      • CatQuest
        hmm maybe because i accidentally used isrc for the duration instead? stupid me
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      • CatQuest
        anyway it works in a diff browser
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      • github
        [critiquebrainz] gentlecat opened pull request #151: Reference MetaBrainz-wide contribution guidelines (master...contributing) https://git.io/v5vPt
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      • psolanki
        I am modifying CB api for ratings. Should it support values other than 20, 40, 60, 80 or 100 like MusicBrainz ws?
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      • psolanki
        Gentlecat, bitmap: ^
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      • Gentlecat
        psolanki: no
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      • Gentlecat
        accept number of stars
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      • Gentlecat
        and convert it for storage
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      • Gentlecat
        same for output
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      • psolanki
        Ok. So, client will deal with 1-5 or None
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      • github
        [critiquebrainz] gentlecat closed pull request #151: Reference MetaBrainz-wide contribution guidelines (master...contributing) https://git.io/v5vPt
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      • iliekcomputers
        :D
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      • ruaok
        Brilliant! I wish to go and pay my respects in March...
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      • iliekcomputers
        Rock garden, Chandigarh is the place :)
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      • Freso
        zas: Ping? Can you log in to the Discord server instance and do `cd /var/discourse; git pull; ./launcher rebuild app`?
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      • Freso
        Sophist-UK: I've mentioned it a couple of times, but AFAIK no one has started work on it.
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      • Sophist-UK
        Thx.
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      • Freso
        Gentlecat: Why not support 0-100 input like MusicBrainz and convert it to 1-5 scale for display? I thought that was what was agreed upon in earlier discussions.
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      • Gentlecat
        we agreed to keep it the same in the backend to make the transition in the future easier
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      • Gentlecat
        but having 0-100 ratings just doesn't make sense to me
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      • Freso
        Accepting it on the WS/API side will allow people to import from players with 1-10 systems etc., without losing data.
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      • Gentlecat
        idk what the history is behind current implementation on MB
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      • Freso
        s/import from/synchronise with/
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      • Gentlecat
        we have CB-248 for that and I'd rather make it more correct/clean on CB
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      • BrainzBot
        CB-248: Implement a system that would allow users to set their own rating scales https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/CB-248
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      • Freso
        But what if they use one player using 1-5, one using 1-10, one using 1-3, one using 👍/👎, one using 1-100.
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      • Gentlecat
        what players are we talking about?
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      • Freso
        This was just theoretical.
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      • Gentlecat
        well, then that's what kind of scale we are providing from the start and if someone wants to use CB API that's what they'll have
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      • Freso
        Some streaming services are 👍/👎 pretty much at least. Last.FM is star-or-nothing-at-all. Kodi uses 1-10.
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      • Gentlecat
        we can't possibly support every case
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      • Gentlecat
        not with the system we have now
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      • Freso
        No, but 1-100 would not make the system less flexible than it is now with MusicBrainz.
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      • Freso
        1-5 will.
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      • Gentlecat
        it's also about keeping things simple
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      • Gentlecat
        it's easier to build the UI that way, easier for users of the API to understand how to work with it
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      • Gentlecat
        having a flexible system described in CB-248 would be much better than trying to figure out what scale is used by looking at one value
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      • BrainzBot
        CB-248: Implement a system that would allow users to set their own rating scales https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/CB-248
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      • Gentlecat
        let's say we have support for 👍/👎. how we know which sale is used then?
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      • Freso
        I think it's a bad idea and will ultimately make it harder to entirely move ratings backend from MB to CB.
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      • CatQuest
        inherent problem with 👍/👎 rating systems :)
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      • Gentlecat
        that would also make calculating averages much more difficult. how would you calculate averages from different scales?
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      • CatQuest
        also some systems only have 👍 that is ♡ or star
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      • CatQuest
        noting for "i don't like"
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      • Freso
        I don't know, but I think that would be up to whomever makes a script to import those ratings to MB/CB to figure out.
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      • Freso
        *whoever
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      • CatQuest
        why not whomever?
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      • Freso
        whoever is more often correct than whomever, and I'm not sure whomever is correct here.
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      • CatQuest
        hmm i just take it on feel, :D
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      • CatQuest
        whom looks right there to me.. but well i wouldn't *know*
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      • Freso
        Yes, that's why I "corrected" it.
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      • CatQuest
        because it feels andlooks right but you aren't sure?
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      • CatQuest
        that's more "*or whoever?" than "*whoever"
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      • CatQuest
        but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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      • CallerNo6
        one of the farces of highschool was that they tried to teach us e.g. der/dem/den when we couldn't even use who/whom correctly. and most of us still can't.
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      • CallerNo6
        hmm. "follies", not farces, though there were plenty of both.
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