and I worked on some new postgres/pgpool/repmgr containers which are kinda working, but I need to test the failover functionality more
2018-05-14 13440, 2018
LordSputnik
iliekcomputers: thanks :)
2018-05-14 13409, 2018
ruaok
also exciting!
2018-05-14 13409, 2018
bitmap
fin, yvanzo ?
2018-05-14 13424, 2018
yvanzo
hi!
2018-05-14 13427, 2018
Freso
(People still up: Freso, rsh7, bukwurm, Leo_Verto, kartikeyaSh_ircc, drsaunder. Anyone else, please let me know explicitly ASAP.)
2018-05-14 13434, 2018
rsh7 is here
2018-05-14 13436, 2018
yvanzo
I fixed beta MBS, updated it, and finally pushed it to production after two days.
2018-05-14 13451, 2018
yvanzo
I reviewed some of bitmap’s fine pull requests and addressed some display/WS bugs.
2018-05-14 13459, 2018
yvanzo
I updated PG sys doc, soon to be obsolete, so I started to read about pgpool2 and barman.
2018-05-14 13424, 2018
yvanzo
go rsh7!
2018-05-14 13440, 2018
rsh7
hi o/
2018-05-14 13453, 2018
ruaok keeps wonder what remote shell version 7 is all about
2018-05-14 13409, 2018
rsh7
Last week I did some left over work of #257 and #261 AB. I read about replication packets and it’s working which I’m gonna use in my project.
2018-05-14 13400, 2018
rsh7
Discussed the project work for first month with iliekcomputers. For the first week, I would start with adding more entities to the direct connection PR and today I started working on the ‘artist’ one.
2018-05-14 13417, 2018
rsh7
Done with the exams last week and came back home yesterday. :)
2018-05-14 13420, 2018
rsh7
fin!
2018-05-14 13434, 2018
rsh7
Freso: go!
2018-05-14 13436, 2018
Freso
🙋
2018-05-14 13412, 2018
Freso
I finally caught up with the Monday meeting notes I've been behind. So that's one less thing I'm behind on… until half an hour from now anyway. 🙈
2018-05-14 13447, 2018
LordSputnik
Freso: me :)
2018-05-14 13428, 2018
Freso
I also finally got around to writing up the board meeting minutes from the last board meeting, just in time for the board meeting tomorrow. Next up on my agenda is getting the still-unpublished minutes posted on the blog.
2018-05-14 13445, 2018
Freso
Other than that, I've been around and about on IRC and forums, handling the occassional forum flags and keeping an eye on some suspicious IRC activities. (Thanks to christel for giving me a heads up! And thanks to the people in here and in #musicbrainz for just reverting the vandalism without paying it (too) much attention.)
tax season is finally over so you should see more of me around here i guess
2018-05-14 13425, 2018
Freso
🙌
2018-05-14 13428, 2018
drsaunder
bukwurm...hit it!
2018-05-14 13433, 2018
ruaok
yay!
2018-05-14 13438, 2018
bukwurm
Hi everyone
2018-05-14 13407, 2018
bukwurm
This week I was busy wrapping up my other projects so that they don't collide with the coding period
2018-05-14 13432, 2018
bukwurm
I worked on schema changes for import
2018-05-14 13457, 2018
bukwurm
Will be making a PR today shortly after a discussion with LordSputnik
2018-05-14 13424, 2018
bukwurm
That would conclude first major aspect for this week's job
2018-05-14 13434, 2018
bukwurm
That's it for me. :)
2018-05-14 13439, 2018
bukwurm
Leo__Verto: ?
2018-05-14 13442, 2018
Leo__Verto
thank you!
2018-05-14 13446, 2018
Leo__Verto
I played devil's advocate regarding the GDPR stuff and tried to find ways in which MeB could be violating it.
2018-05-14 13447, 2018
Freso
(Only kartikeyaSh and LordSputnik still up. Anyone else, now's the last time to let me know.)
2018-05-14 13455, 2018
Leo__Verto
Then I had to deal with a lovely root SSD failure on one of my servers and learned a valuable lesson about not cheaping out on hardware and talked to zas about monitoring for that kind of stuff.
2018-05-14 13404, 2018
Leo__Verto
I also got to fly in an 86 year old plane which was pretty neat but also a good reminder of how comfortable modern jetliners are.
2018-05-14 13426, 2018
bukwurm
Cool!
2018-05-14 13432, 2018
Leo__Verto
fin.
2018-05-14 13438, 2018
Leo__Verto
LordSputnik, go!
2018-05-14 13446, 2018
LordSputnik
Ooo
2018-05-14 13450, 2018
ruaok
expensive but needed lesson, Leo_Verto. :)
2018-05-14 13455, 2018
LordSputnik
Ok so I didn't do much coding this week
2018-05-14 13445, 2018
LordSputnik
I worked out the best way to move all our editing logic from the site repo into a more structured set of functions in the data repo
2018-05-14 13422, 2018
LordSputnik
I also think I have a good idea of how to do BB account deletion based on what bitmap has said on the ticket
2018-05-14 13448, 2018
LordSputnik
I had a weekly meeting with bukwurm yesterday
2018-05-14 13405, 2018
LordSputnik
And he's ready to do some good work this week
2018-05-14 13408, 2018
Darkloke joined the channel
2018-05-14 13453, 2018
LordSputnik
We're also planning to stop storing birthday and gender in BB, as it's unnecessary personal information that isn't relevant to our operation
2018-05-14 13403, 2018
LordSputnik
So no future birthday greeting emails :P
2018-05-14 13404, 2018
Freso
LordSputnik: … for users.
2018-05-14 13428, 2018
LordSputnik
Freso: huh?
2018-05-14 13434, 2018
LordSputnik
Oh yeah
2018-05-14 13438, 2018
LordSputnik
Not for entities
2018-05-14 13443, 2018
Freso
LordSputnik: You're not going to stop storing birthdays and genders for Authors? :p
2018-05-14 13444, 2018
LordSputnik
Just editor data
2018-05-14 13445, 2018
Freso
Right. :)
2018-05-14 13412, 2018
LordSputnik
Then besides that we'll also update to the MeB privacy policy very soon
2018-05-14 13448, 2018
LordSputnik
Might need to work out a way to use MB emailing to send out an email update to everyone about that
2018-05-14 13454, 2018
LordSputnik
That's it from me :)
2018-05-14 13401, 2018
Leo__Verto
… there were birthday emails? :O
2018-05-14 13405, 2018
ruaok
MeB privacy policy update?
2018-05-14 13410, 2018
ruaok
what is needed?
2018-05-14 13413, 2018
Freso
LordSputnik: You can probably just "piggy-back" on the blog post ruaok is going to write about this.
2018-05-14 13432, 2018
Freso
Sending a bunch of unsolicited e-mails is Not Cool™.
2018-05-14 13441, 2018
Freso
Anyway. kartikeyaSh, go!
2018-05-14 13444, 2018
Freso
Last one up!
2018-05-14 13446, 2018
LordSputnik
ruaok: BB doesn't have an official privacy policy, I just mean we'll adopt the new MeB one
2018-05-14 13455, 2018
kartikeyaSh
Hi
2018-05-14 13457, 2018
ruaok
got it.
2018-05-14 13408, 2018
LordSputnik
Freso: if that's enough to inform people then sure
2018-05-14 13418, 2018
ruaok
and yes, please piggy back into my blog post. we're going to avoid sending emails if we can possibly help it.
2018-05-14 13437, 2018
Freso
LordSputnik: Maybe do like ruaok and write a forum topic about it too, and then repeat it in the blog post.
2018-05-14 13438, 2018
kartikeyaSh
Had my last exam today. I had a little talk with iliekcomputers about MessyBrainz, nothing much to tell about the week. Finally, I can get started with the MessyBrainz work from tomorrow.
2018-05-14 13442, 2018
kartikeyaSh
fin!
2018-05-14 13401, 2018
ruaok
kartikeyaSh: I hope to have more feedback for you tomorrow.
2018-05-14 13405, 2018
Freso
Thanks kartikeyaSh, and reosarevok, and everyone who gave updates!
ruaok: I'm waiting for the feedback! Let's make MessyBrainz less Messy !
2018-05-14 13409, 2018
drsaunder
basically i had been working this in my head for a while and i think its something we need and would benefit mb a great deal
2018-05-14 13416, 2018
Freso
(LessMessyBrainz is not as catchy though.)
2018-05-14 13428, 2018
drsaunder
and i'm looking for 2 things from the people in this room
2018-05-14 13454, 2018
drsaunder
1) feedback/opinions how can we do a program like this in the most efficient and effective manner
2018-05-14 13425, 2018
Freso
I meant to have a look at it today, but unfortunately kept being distracted by other things. :( I'll read it over tonight or tomorrow to see what I'm being signed up for more in-depth.
2018-05-14 13429, 2018
drsaunder
2) buy in...i'm hoping to get as many of you on board as possible, ideally most of the people in the room here now would be my original group of pilot mentors
2018-05-14 13400, 2018
Freso
I think our editor-mentors from GCI might be an excellent starting pool of people, if they're up for it.
2018-05-14 13422, 2018
drsaunder
well yes this is new for everyone, so give a week for everyone to read and come up with comments and i guess discuss again next week?
2018-05-14 13422, 2018
ruaok
as for my two cents on this -- I'm going to hang back a bit and listen to community feedback before I chime in. Just FYI.
2018-05-14 13437, 2018
ruaok
sounds like a plan, drsaunder
2018-05-14 13418, 2018
Freso
Ping: reosarevok, CatQuest, Major_Lurker, Leo__Verto, … who was else on that team? Some of these are obviously busy with other things, but might be a good starting point for the "initial batch".
2018-05-14 13418, 2018
Leo__Verto
I wonder whether it would make sense to allow some sort of seperation by genre? I have no idea about classical editing style and I can't read Japanese but there are some other editors who have specialized working on those
2018-05-14 13420, 2018
drsaunder
so guys...please..you have a week...hopefully i can get all of you to spend 5 mins comtemplating a mentorship program would be great
2018-05-14 13422, 2018
reosarevok
I really like the idea. I'm already trying to do this a bit, so having a more organized way would be great
2018-05-14 13440, 2018
CatQuest
we kidna used to have a informal thing lie kthis
2018-05-14 13454, 2018
drsaunder
i'd like to formalize it
2018-05-14 13405, 2018
Freso
Alright. So let's keep the item in the /topic for next week and revisit there. :) drsaunder, any chance you may want to post about it on the forums too?
2018-05-14 13413, 2018
CatQuest
you'd sort of mentor a person and it usually ended with electing hme as autoeditor
2018-05-14 13424, 2018
CatQuest
like a sort of "always gci" but witouth the competition and tasks?
2018-05-14 13426, 2018
drsaunder
we all would love to help new editors...but too few of them care, so it would be a boon if we know which ones care and want to improve
2018-05-14 13432, 2018
Freso
(I mean, I guess it'll sort of be posted in the forums once I make the meeting notes for tonight. :))
2018-05-14 13432, 2018
Leo__Verto
on the technical side of things, maybe a forum thread could be used to handle the assignments for now and mentors would just subscribe to mentees?
2018-05-14 13400, 2018
CatQuest
i'd lie kthe be able to "subscribe to people" thingy
2018-05-14 13409, 2018
CatQuest
if i see new editors doing stuff
2018-05-14 13425, 2018
CatQuest
i wanna help out and stuff :D
2018-05-14 13437, 2018
Leo__Verto
I feel like trying to find technical solutions to poorly defined people problems doesn't always result in systems that people want to use
2018-05-14 13445, 2018
drsaunder
but one specific mentor per person would be idea....you dont want multiple mentors as thats just confusing, and we want to assist new editors, not beat them down
2018-05-14 13446, 2018
CatQuest
this is true
2018-05-14 13458, 2018
Leo__Verto
imho it's better to go low-tech and build a system from our experiences, if this is something people even want to use
2018-05-14 13402, 2018
ruaok
Leo_Verto: this isn't really a technical solution.
2018-05-14 13413, 2018
ruaok
this is a coordination of a social solution.
2018-05-14 13437, 2018
CatQuest
I don't know about one on one I think the "village to raise an editor" is better honestly
2018-05-14 13447, 2018
CatQuest
sometimes ye designed mentor is busy or has other things
2018-05-14 13454, 2018
CatQuest
it cna quickly becoem a fulltime job
2018-05-14 13455, 2018
Leo__Verto
ruaok, definitely, I'm mostly referring to the "Implementation" part of the wiki page. I don't think we need to do any coding to get the pilot up
2018-05-14 13456, 2018
drsaunder
and the whole social situation speaks to issue #2....where we really need to build more of a base of 1%ers
2018-05-14 13407, 2018
CatQuest
having severla folunteers helping out and beign friendly about it isn't a probplem
2018-05-14 13410, 2018
Freso
Alright. Let's continue discussion about this post-meeting, because there's no way we're going to get a resolution of anything in the next 10 minutes.
2018-05-14 13421, 2018
CatQuest
infact it would help to illustrate the collaboratory aspect of mb
2018-05-14 13430, 2018
Freso
So let's continue talking and thinking and revisit next week. Does this sound okay?
2018-05-14 13434, 2018
ruaok
k
2018-05-14 13440, 2018
drsaunder
just day one, get you guys thinking on this and hopefully backing me up :-)
2018-05-14 13453, 2018
Freso
drsaunder: I think it's a great initiative!
2018-05-14 13406, 2018
drsaunder
i had dmpanda and teleguise to mentor me
2018-05-14 13407, 2018
ruaok
drsaunder: I the sentiment of "knowing who wants to be a better editor"
2018-05-14 13415, 2018
drsaunder
and i mentored murdos
2018-05-14 13435, 2018
ruaok
maybe that is what we ought to focus on as well. ways find these people... and then to coax them into mentorship.
2018-05-14 13448, 2018
ruaok
anyways, gotta run.
2018-05-14 13450, 2018
Freso
I don't hear anyone speak against my proposition, so I'll call the meeting off now, but please stick around and continue the talk/discussion. :)
2018-05-14 13457, 2018
ruaok promises to think.
2018-05-14 13457, 2018
Freso
Thanks for your time everyone!
2018-05-14 13400, 2018
Freso
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2018-05-14 13415, 2018
drsaunder
in other words we need to find more of these OCD people and focus their addiction to musicbrainz
2018-05-14 13441, 2018
Leo__Verto
I'm trying to find that graph loujine made about % of editors who make X edits
2018-05-14 13420, 2018
CatQuest
[19:54] <drsaunder> i had dmpanda and teleguise to mentor me
2018-05-14 13420, 2018
CatQuest
heh I had dupuy and uh nikki and ... kinda hma >_<
