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samj1912
ah looks like new edismax config is slightly broken :\
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12:02 PM
TheFaR8
Hi
12:02 PM
yvanzo
hi
12:05 PM
TheFaR8
In bookbrainz, seems like the creator's name isn't present in their work, or edition or publication.. what do you guys think about adding the name to the menu at the create work menu?
12:07 PM
yvanzo
LordSputnik, Leftmost ^
12:10 PM
reosarevok
TheFaR8: IIRC that's because relationships aren't properly in yet but LordSputnik is working on it, but he can give you a better answer :)
12:11 PM
samj1912: should I be seeing anything different yet?
12:12 PM
TheFaR8
okay can't wait :)
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github
[musicbrainz-server] yvanzo closed pull request #669: Use the edismax endpoint for advanced searches (master...edismax)
https://git.io/vpxnp
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yvanzo
reosarevok: no
12:18 PM
(not sure)
12:18 PM
samj1912
not yet
12:19 PM
yvanzo: can you build a new test image for mbs?
12:19 PM
yvanzo
samj1912: should I deploy a new test.mb.o now?
12:19 PM
ok :)
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ruaok
12:25 PM
US, UK, IT. lol
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\ø jesus2099
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jesus2099
12:31 PM
BrainzBot
MBS-9716: Release editor: Cannot make changes in Recordings tab
12:31 PM
jesus2099
Hi ruaok! How are you?
12:31 PM
ruaok
improving. you?
12:32 PM
enjoying the rail strikes? |-)
12:32 PM
jesus2099
I see you’re all very busy with GDPR stuff! I’m very fine, beautiful weather helps a lot
12:32 PM
ruaok
great to hear that. :)
12:32 PM
yvanzo
hi jesus2099: on which release?
12:32 PM
jesus2099
I’m lucky enough to work near my home, so strikes are no issue for me! B-)
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12:33 PM
samj1912
12:33 PM
this broke everything :P
12:35 PM
yvanzo: let me know when new test.mb is deployed
12:35 PM
yvanzo
build is not finished
12:38 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: you can then test via enabling the advanced search (the simple search will return the wrong results)
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reosarevok
jesus2099: does it work if you specifically click "Done" after selecting the new recording?
12:45 PM
If so, that's a duplicate
12:48 PM
yvanzo
samj1912: test.mb.o is deployed
12:49 PM
samj1912
cool
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12:49 PM
reosarevok: there ya go :D
12:49 PM
ruaok: its up :D
12:51 PM
ruaok
great, thanks samj1912 and yvanzo !
12:51 PM
Leo__Verto
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12:51 PM
samj1912
Leo__Verto: feel free to test some more :P
12:51 PM
ruaok
12:52 PM
Leo__Verto
I wonder whether it still makes sense to show the score? it's kind of visual clutter, no?
12:52 PM
samj1912
it is, maybe we can remove that from the UI and keep it WS only
12:53 PM
ruaok
the scores have neven been well received, but mostly because they sucked.
12:53 PM
+1 samj1912
12:53 PM
samj1912: what is your plan for making !!! work?
12:53 PM
samj1912
I have no idea :P
12:53 PM
looking into it :P
12:53 PM
ruaok
ok.
12:53 PM
samj1912
can you give me more stuff that doesn't work?
12:53 PM
ruaok
looking now!
12:54 PM
reosarevok
So how does this ranking work now?
12:54 PM
ruaok
also, was there a specific case that made sure that !!! works?
12:54 PM
(in the old code)
12:54 PM
samj1912
I dont think so
12:54 PM
reosarevok
(Bach is still meh, but at least it's in the top 10)
12:54 PM
samj1912
let me check which analyzers it uses
12:54 PM
Leo__Verto
12:54 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: I think we might need to boost bach manually :P
12:55 PM
ruaok
!!!, p!nk dpn
12:55 PM
don't work as expected.
12:55 PM
Leo__Verto
I love how Freso shows up on that search even though his artist page doesn't include the term "MusicBrainz" at all
12:56 PM
reosarevok
12:56 PM
Are we weighing name higher than primary aliases?
12:56 PM
If so, maybe we shouldn't
12:57 PM
samj1912
hmm
12:57 PM
we are weighing name more than alias
12:57 PM
Leo__Verto
12:58 PM
I think artists just called "Bach" showing up before the composer is okay but six other Bachs?
12:59 PM
ruaok thinks we're going to crash the DB server by all loading JSB
12:59 PM
seems like there is a fine line when trying to weight higher profile artists above exact matches at the risk of hiding the exact matches under more popular artists
13:00 PM
ruaok
yeah.
13:00 PM
strictly speaking those bach results are great.
13:01 PM
but because socially we're accustomed to just saying Bach, the results are not correct to social standards.
13:01 PM
reosarevok
How does it decide which U2 or Nirvana is top right now?
13:01 PM
I see it gets it right, but how? Does it weigh number of releases?
13:01 PM
Leo__Verto
well, I'd be fine with JS Bach being third but some self-help audiobook artist is in front of him
13:01 PM
ruaok
reosarevok: number of entities that refer to that artist.
13:02 PM
ruaok gets a 504 on JSB.
13:02 PM
does JSB have an alias for "Bach"?
13:02 PM
reosarevok
So if we just add another 300 Bach albums, it might be third?
13:02 PM
Leo__Verto
13:02 PM
ruaok
GAAAAAAAH
13:02 PM
samj1912
lol :P
13:02 PM
Leo__Verto
ruaok, he does
13:03 PM
ruaok
yeah.
13:03 PM
I don't know how to solve that aspect of our JSB problem.
13:03 PM
Leo__Verto
as "Artist Name" though, not as search hint
13:03 PM
reosarevok
Also JS Bach and J.S. Bach and Bach (1685-1750) and and
13:03 PM
Leo__Verto
if that's something that is considered
13:03 PM
ruaok
oh -- let's add bach as a search hint and see if that helps.
13:03 PM
Leo__Verto
also lol @ "Johann Sebastion Bach"
13:03 PM
reosarevok
Wait, are search hints valued more?
13:03 PM
ruaok
Leo__Verto: thanks for volunteering. should I reset your pwd again?
13:04 PM
reosarevok
If so, I'd argue it should be the other way around
13:04 PM
ruaok
:laug
13:04 PM
grr.
13:04 PM
reosarevok
(real names should be more weighted than typos)
13:04 PM
ruaok
😆
13:04 PM
Leo__Verto
hah, thanks, I got this one
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13:05 PM
samj1912
Leo__Verto: its hard coded :P
13:05 PM
Leo__Verto
oh wow
13:05 PM
samj1912
10 mbids are hardcoded :P
13:06 PM
ruaok
which is why I want to go to a !!! concert with the snarky sign.
13:06 PM
Leo__Verto
yeah, now I get why you want to replace it
13:06 PM
samj1912
13:07 PM
reosarevok
On the other hand, if hardcoding it is what it needs to match expectations for specifically these, is that so big a problem?
13:07 PM
Leo__Verto
whyyy
13:07 PM
ruaok
samj1912: interesting.
13:07 PM
does the new artist analyzer remove punctuation characters?
13:07 PM
reosarevok
Leo__Verto: to make it work :p
13:07 PM
ruaok
if so, it shouldn
13:07 PM
tt
13:07 PM
samj1912
ruaok: I can fix that
13:07 PM
ruaok
that might make !!! and p!nk work.
13:07 PM
please do.
13:07 PM
samj1912
p!nk works?
13:07 PM
Leo__Verto
added "Bach" as search hint, not showing up on the test server alias page though, does it use a replicated DB?
13:07 PM
ruaok
no
13:08 PM
Leo__Verto: add it on production.
13:08 PM
samj1912: is live updating on right now?
13:08 PM
samj1912
13:08 PM
ruaok: it should be
13:08 PM
Leo__Verto
13:09 PM
ruaok
samj1912: sorry, my bad. forgot the stupid checkbox. I can't wait for the to go away.
13:09 PM
samj1912
!!! does not work, but p!nk does
13:09 PM
ill have to do something about !!!
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13:10 PM
hmm things are in the retry queue
13:10 PM
I wonder why
13:10 PM
let me see
13:10 PM
ruaok
that explains why it had no effect on JSB.