17:48 PM
kartikeyaSh
ruaok: okay I'll wait until then
17:48 PM
samj1912
cool :D
17:48 PM
reosarevok
artist still looks ok
17:48 PM
I think :)
17:49 PM
CatQuest wil lbe afk for dinner
17:49 PM
CatQuest
i'll be back tomoroow?
17:49 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: it hopefully should :P
17:49 PM
CatQuest
is that ok?
17:49 PM
reosarevok
I think release is good rn, would suggest doing the same for RG and then seeing if anyone has complaints
17:49 PM
samj1912
cool
17:49 PM
reosarevok
When doing further testing I mean
17:49 PM
samj1912
ill freeze that then
17:49 PM
reosarevok
WHAT KILLED THE DINOSAURS??? THE ICE AGE
17:50 PM
(sorry, I think of Mr. Freeze every time)
17:50 PM
samj1912
lol XD
17:50 PM
CatQuest
aaaactualy it was a comet and or volcanic action+ deseases
17:51 PM
sorry palaeontology nerd here.
17:51 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: how much weight for rg vs release for rg conf?
17:52 PM
CatQuest
17:52 PM
instrument credits work different than aritst credits, however
17:52 PM
samj1912
CatQuest: int creds are not indexed iirc
17:53 PM
aliases and named only
17:53 PM
CatQuest
hmm!
17:53 PM
samj1912
*names
17:53 PM
CatQuest
what about artist, places, etc?
17:53 PM
reosarevok
I think relationship credits are likely to not be indexed while actual ACs are
17:53 PM
But not sure :)
17:53 PM
CatQuest
yea
17:54 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: releases v/s rg boosts for rg? I am thinking 1.5/2?
17:54 PM
reosarevok
Oh, there's that
17:54 PM
Sounds reasonable to me
17:54 PM
Will it boost it like a ton if it's both rg and release?
17:54 PM
I guess that wouldn't be wrong anyway
17:55 PM
CatQuest
hmm . perhaps for release group something about bootlegs? (if there are only bootlegs but if there is a bootleg named ooddly. migh be a corner case though)
17:55 PM
samj1912
it will boost a ton :P
17:56 PM
CatQuest
not important
17:56 PM
samj1912, reosarevok \o
17:57 PM
reosarevok
Sounds sensible
17:57 PM
Prioritizing stuff with official releases (like on the main interface) might make sense
17:57 PM
But it's probably not very important if not trivial
17:57 PM
CatQuest
exactly
17:58 PM
samj1912
17:59 PM
reosarevok
What's releasegroupaccent?
17:59 PM
Anyway, from the stuff available to index, I think that looks OK
17:59 PM
samj1912
basically for things that contain diacritics
18:00 PM
solr removes accents, so yeah
18:00 PM
reosarevok
Will it cause for things that have no diacritics to be weighed double?
18:00 PM
samj1912
releaseaccent preservers it
18:00 PM
reosarevok: it will
18:00 PM
reosarevok
Hmm.
18:01 PM
CatQuest
hmm
18:01 PM
something that annoys me: if I search for like "fær" I get "fær" and "faer" etc.
18:01 PM
reosarevok
18:01 PM
bukwurm_
LordSputnik: Hi, let's have a discussion regarding use of records anytime you're free this week. :)
18:02 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: yeah because releaseaccent has it stored with the marks
18:02 PM
reosarevok
Sure, but I was worried it would also weigh "Nino" equally heavily because both are 2x
18:03 PM
Seems it's fine though
18:03 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: that's because of the query
18:03 PM
CatQuest
18:04 PM
samj1912
CatQuest: not sure if it works for ligatures
18:04 PM
reosarevok
samj1912: what do you mean?
18:04 PM
samj1912
it works for diacritics only afaik
18:04 PM
reosarevok: well you query has a diacritic
18:05 PM
reosarevok
Oh, so it does not evaluate it without the diacritic too or anything. Good
18:05 PM
CatQuest
I mean. I don't *want* to get "haer" when i search for "hær"
18:05 PM
reosarevok
Well, it might be useful to find when people have entered it wrong and it needs fixing, CatQuest :p
18:05 PM
(but in general it'd be annoying I guess, yeah)
18:05 PM
CatQuest
yes, but
18:05 PM
yes
18:05 PM
reosarevok
samj1912: it looks ok to me anyway
18:06 PM
samj1912
cool
18:06 PM
reosarevok
If we test it further in use and we find something weird, I'll pester you again :D
18:06 PM
samj1912
cool
18:06 PM
ill push the RG changes too
18:06 PM
CatQuest
*however* finding på when searching for paa and visa versa would be good
18:06 PM
samj1912
CatQuest: that works as expected
18:06 PM
coz thats a diacritic and not a ligature
18:06 PM
CatQuest
it finds it?
18:07 PM
samj1912
it should
18:07 PM
CatQuest
18:07 PM
reosarevok
Actually nothing seems to be named på in recording search...
18:07 PM
CatQuest
it's finding everyting that's pa instead of thing including på
18:07 PM
reosarevok
Oh, it is
18:07 PM
samj1912
CatQuest: coz that's artist search :P
18:07 PM
oh wait, recording
18:07 PM
CatQuest
it's arecording search
18:08 PM
samj1912
CatQuest: do it for releases
18:08 PM
CatQuest
ok i'll test
18:08 PM
reosarevok
Hmm
18:08 PM
18:08 PM
... that's beta. duh
18:08 PM
CatQuest
wait what ma i doing
18:08 PM
reosarevok
18:08 PM
CatQuest
ja!
18:09 PM
bra!
18:09 PM
reosarevok
(it does not work with "paa" though, it does with "pa" but it's fairly low because there's a lot of actual "pa" before it)
18:09 PM
samj1912
the advanced search might have better results
18:09 PM
CatQuest
på should really find på though, only vry low
18:09 PM
reosarevok
18:10 PM
Wonder if we should weigh accent higher than normal?
18:10 PM
CatQuest
18:10 PM
yes please!
18:10 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: I can
18:10 PM
let me
18:10 PM
CatQuest
also ligatures
18:10 PM
reosarevok
Like, 2 for accent 1.5 for normal or something
18:10 PM
samj1912
cool
18:10 PM
CatQuest
:D
18:12 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: that however might be due to accent not being boosted in phrasal queries
18:12 PM
18:12 PM
reosarevok
it's the same in both basic and advanced though
18:12 PM
Wheee
18:12 PM
samj1912
lol :P
18:12 PM
reosarevok
That seems good :)
18:13 PM
Recording probably similar
18:13 PM
CatQuest
it doesn't diff between types of acents?
18:13 PM
reosarevok
If we didn't do it yet
18:13 PM
CatQuest
18:13 PM
hör is not hør
18:14 PM
reosarevok
hör is after hør so that must be an unaccented match?
18:14 PM
Still a bit odd that "Hor Hor" is first tho
18:15 PM
CatQuest
18:16 PM
ehh
18:16 PM
18:16 PM
explorer?
18:16 PM
reosarevok
well, it contains orer :D
18:16 PM
samj1912
CatQuest: ngrams
18:17 PM
CatQuest
I would except "hører" before "explorer" for a search of "ører"
18:17 PM
nkil. but what?
18:17 PM
nkilo*
18:17 PM
kill my own joke
18:17 PM
reosarevok
Are there any hørers?
18:18 PM
Anyway, I'm off for a short walk, back in a short bit
18:18 PM
CatQuest
at the end on page 8
18:18 PM
reosarevok
What's left? Assuming this is okayish anyway
18:18 PM
CatQuest
alos dører, etc
18:18 PM
reosarevok
I think ngrams are probably unaccented or something
18:18 PM
CatQuest
sorry my ngrama -nkilos joke as bad
18:18 PM
(i don't know what ngrams are)
18:19 PM
anyway how to explain, i don't see ø and å as "accented"
18:19 PM
even if they supposedly are for unicode
18:19 PM
they are separate letters
18:20 PM
we also have the accented é in some words
18:20 PM
reosarevok
Sure, it's the same with ñ and Estonian letters, but I suspect solr doesn't know better :(
18:20 PM
CatQuest
also æ is a letter not a "ae" combo only. it's jsut the idea. a norwegian (and dane i'm sure) will come and expect that it's treated as a "letter"
18:20 PM
:(
18:21 PM
it's what you get with english people writing this initially :P
18:21 PM
had it been written by a dane thing would have been differnt :D
18:21 PM
samj1912
reosarevok: yup, ngrams are unaccented
18:21 PM
CatQuest
what are ngrams