#metabrainz

ruaok: I hear you on the "not much data". Maybe not enough to produce any statistically significant information. As for the GDPR issue, would that also apply to collections marked as "Public"?

I am not sure if the public data is free for processing. likely to be in the grey zone -- I suspect that it would be best to ask our users for explicit permission.

Sounds like the best solution, if it ever comes to that. May not be worth the effort.

there will come a day when we're hunting for more data sources.

In the meantime, kepstin had an interesting suggestion about adding some functionality to Picard to update a user's collection automatically when they tag something. Might encourage a larger data set when the time comes.

I've long felt that picard needed to have features like that.

never gotten around to it, saldy.

I'll see if there's a ticket and add one if not. It shouldn't be that difficult to add. (Famous last words... :-) )

reosarevok: look, this is why I am wrong so often! https://www.inc.com/scott-mautz/jeff-bezos-says...

yes, that is the explanation. honest!

[bookbrainz-site] MonkeyDo opened pull request #290 (master…fix-BB-347): fix: Fix BB-347 remedy null date for Editions without a releaseDate https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site/p...

BB-347: Date-related error being thrown when creating a new Entity https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/BB-347

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Just added PICARD-1526 as per the discussion.

PICARD-1526: Allow auto update user collection when saving tagged files https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/PICARD-1526

reosarevok: if there are more than 500 recordings on the release, we don't return any recording-level-rels

Is there any way around it?

Request it in smaller chunks somehow?

the only way is to request each recording individually, afaik

heh, that release barely loads even without the relationships

hi bitmap & reosarevok: what is the current status of beta?

probably 'cause we thought it was a good idea to output all of bach's aliases inside all 1000 tracks, lol

is there anything else we want to include in the next release?

I'm reviewing the collaborative collections pr again today

we should honestly include that if it's working at least, and have another week of testing if needed

I didn’t know beta was freezed already https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metab...

beta has been updated just after latest mbs release I think, but there is no much changes into it?

it was?

bitmap: have you checked the forms submit button of my latest code ?

Cyna: no, I haven't

the form submit button is not working, I've checked other buttons and passed params accordingly

ok, what is not working?

still they are not working

well the button is getting pressed but im getting redirected anywhere

neither is the edit getting submitted

does it reload the page?

bitmap: the current beta has been inline for ten days already, would you prefer to have it released right now (it is mostly about OPTIONS/CORS preflight), or to push master to beta and wait for normal release?

s/inline/online/

checking it again right now

I'd prefer to focus on getting https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... reviewed & merged and delay the release until then

bitmap, reosarevok: IIRC we used to not touch master during beta period so as to ease backporting beta hotfixes to master, but we can just be cautious about not merging potentially conflicting patches?

before 2015 I guess? but yeah, if there's some kind of merge conflict then that requires attention

most hotfixes are pretty small and easy to backport, at least

alright :) dunno before 2015, my first patch is 2016, really involved since 2017 ;)

oh, right lol

maybe there were some cases where we did decide to freeze master temporarily, I forget

bitmap: The page is refreshing all right, but there are ni changes

*no

might some of the fields have errors that aren't being displayed?

[bookbrainz-site] MonkeyDo merged pull request #290 (master…fix-BB-347): fix: Fix BB-347 remedy null date for Editions without a releaseDate https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site/p...

BB-347: Date-related error being thrown when creating a new Entity https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/BB-347

gr0uch0mars: hi

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I wonder how our privacy poly would fare in this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/12/...

CatQuest and anyone else interested: Automatic creation of Edition Group is up on test.bookbrainz.org . Could you please try it out and let me know if you find any issues/improvements?

And so is the new date picker, by the way !

bitmap: *could* we provide a better way of doing it?

Say, if there's over 500 recordings, add some sort of notification message with the response and allow some other endpoint that queries smaller chunks without requiring 500+ queries?

hrm, I forgot you can browse recordings by release, so that's another available option

I'm not sure adding something like requesting individual media would be any better than that (probably slower)

Mr_Monkey: Hi!

Hi akhilesh ! How's it going?

Mr_Monkey: are you available now for some help?

Not at the moment, starting to prepare dinner. But I always encourage you to write your questions, that gives me the time to start thinking about it, and respond later

Ok

I will comment on PR Mr_Monkey.

OK, perfect

I've put all the field errors right and yes nothing is displayed

Mr_Monkey: :O

first thang: when I go from https://test.bookbrainz.org/search?q=grove+dict... to "edition" (then probably I'd want the "name" to be pre-populated with the search string (unrelated to what oy uasked to search for but ))

still no "copy" next to "guess" on sortname..

date picker: i can't actually choose a year

it won't set

also selecting am onth

it requires date

(also just having a field i cna paste soem dateinto woudl be prefferable)

hmm interesting date thing https://test.bookbrainz.org/edition/09fb0a5c-9e...

cool

+1111 for editiong group creation on edition creation <3

!m Mr_Monkey

You're doing good work, Mr_Monkey!

but it'd be usefull to be able to set which "type" it is

also eccoing what reosarevok? was it who said about having "identifiers" be shown always (not a popup, something on the page)

but over all i'm very pelased with this feature finalyl beign part here

all the new "thre is no $ help us add to BookBrainz" buttons are neat too

akes things faster isntead of going to the menu and stuff

all we really really need now is merging and i think we cna say we're in beta isntead of alpha :D

<3

Mr_Monkey: https://test.bookbrainz.org/revision/10326

ruaok: "Only Immanuel Kant’s famously difficult “Critique of Pure Reason” registers a more challenging readability score than Facebook’s privacy policy." ... thanks for the link, interesting

I lol'ed at that.

The [Google] policy became more readable at the expense of brevity after the introduction of the General Data Protection Regulation, the European Union data privacy protection framework that went into effect a year ago

ruaok: compare the privacy policy to that from the BBC :)

The data viz on that article is great.

SothoTalKer: Did you read the article?

of course

Alright.

reboot.

Offtopic for anyone who wants to be depressed for 5h and hasn't watched it yet: the Chernobyl HBO series is great

+1 to that (though haven't finished it yet)

yvanzo, bitmap: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/is-musicbrai... did we change anything that might affect this?

(the speed of that query)

not that I know of

(it doesn't take 15s for me either though so not clear why it does for them, maybe transient)