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      • diru1100
        Installed MB locally and testing it's connectivity with SB API
      • Registered myself to NickServ and got myself a cloak thanks to Freso :D
      • Attended the Linux OSSummit and heard the keynote session by Linus
      • All the things are coming together wrt SB, the model + API + MB. Connecting all of them will be super fun
      • Thank you, and hope everyone is doing great
      • jmp_music: go?
      • CatQuest
        :O
      • jmp_music
        Hi everybody!
      • CatQuest
        hi!
      • jmp_music
        Last week, I worked a lot with alastairp to install the latest version of gaia into a docker image and run some experiments. Some PRs were opened based on some issues we found and were later resolved.
      • Thanks to his guidance, everything now runs fine.
      • I also did research on how to parallelize some processes in data preprocessing and started to develop these methods.
      • next: _lucifer?
      • _lucifer
        hi all
      • I worked on trying to compile an android version of essentia ready
      • It took some time to cross compile its dependencies and automate the process
      • but it seems to work
      • i am now working on the music extraction algortihm acousticbrainz uses to analyse audio files
      • thats it for me
      • ishaanshah: next?
      • ishaanshah
        Thanks!
      • Hey Everyone!
      • Last week I worked on frontend for Listening Activity stats
      • Took longer than expected, hoping to finish it by tomorrow
      • thats about it.
      • fin! shivam-kapila go!
      • shivam-kapila
        Thanks
      • Freso
        (Only myself and Cyna left, and Cyna doesn’t seem to be around! Final call for anyone else who may want to give review!)
      • shivam-kapila
        Last week I worked on finalising the LB dashboard along with Mr_Monkey and ruaok
      • Scrolled through a lot of designs for inspiration
      • Made some mockups
      • Was away for some time due to some personal things
      • Now we have almost finalised the design and I will move to code them
      • a sec please
      • DjSlash
        <3
      • shivam-kapila
        This is what we have almost finalised with the top nav being some tweaks away
      • Thats it I guess
      • fin
      • CatQuest
        hmmm
      • shivam-kapila
        Freso: go!
      • Freso
        🙋
      • shivam-kapila
        (DjSlash: Thanks)
      • Freso
        Pretty much the same as last week: spending hours in the sun and skulking about the community at night. I’ve been poking at reports and tracking down more sockpuppeteering thanks to the new tools bitmap made me. ❤️
      • !m bitmap
      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, bitmap!
      • CatQuest
        bitmap äge!
      • Freso
        Not really much else to report. Still in somewhat summer mode. :x
      • CatQuest also
      • fin!
      • Still no Cyna around, so I guess that wraps up the reviews! Thank you everyone for yours. :)
      • One more item on today’s agenda:
      • reosarevok: STYLE-724
      • BrainzBot
        STYLE-724: The artist entity “Various Artists” should be in brackets https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-724
      • reosarevok
        Hi!
      • CatQuest
        hi!
      • reosarevok
        So, for a long time people have mentioned how "Various Artists" is a special artist and should really be "[Various Artists]"
      • I usually dismissed it because I assumed people would kill me
      • ruaok
        oh no.
      • not in 2020!
      • reosarevok
        But it does by now have 9 votes in Jira
      • CatQuest wants [various artists]
      • So clearly some people *do* want that
      • Freso doesn’t care either way
      • At least 10 of them :D
      • ruaok
        any idea how much shit that is going to break?
      • reosarevok
        Freso: apparently you voted for it, so you should care? :p
      • CatQuest
        why would it break anything?
      • Freso
        reosarevok: Omg. Does it say when that was?
      • reosarevok
        It shouldn't break anything as such in theory
      • Since nobody should be using just the artist name instead of the GID
      • Freso
        If anyone is checking only on name, it’s already broken.
      • CatQuest
        freso: wants it so bad he forgot it
      • reosarevok
        (we have other artists named Various Artists)
      • I'm sure plenty of people do just that, but
      • CatQuest
        infact this would *fix* that
      • but yes
      • alastairp
        does this have an effect on taggers? does this mean that filenames will have [] in them?
      • Freso
        Until someone decides to call themselves [various artists] :p
      • CatQuest
        i think we actulaly have one called that already. but
      • reosarevok
        alastairp: I dunno? We already have [unknown] and whatnot
      • CatQuest
        sigh artists
      • reosarevok
        So in theory, they should be able to deal with that as it is
      • Can they? I dunno!
      • Freso
        alastairp: I think Picard allows you to enter your own string for the VA special-cased MBID.
      • ruaok
        wait. hang on.
      • CatQuest
        I belive picard has an ability to say exaclty wht yo uwant VA to be called
      • reosarevok waits and hangs on
      • Freso: jinx :D
      • Freso
        reosarevok: Don’t let go!!
      • ruaok
        won't this trigger a COMPLETE reindex of all the search indexes for VA albums?
      • CatQuest
        hang onn!
      • Freso
        >_>
      • CatQuest
        oh no
      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: ^ will it trigger that?
      • CatQuest
        oh no
      • ruaok
        serisouly, can we please wait until 2021?
      • only half joking.
      • CatQuest
        what happens in 2021?
      • oh
      • ruaok
        its no longer 2020.
      • Freso
        CatQuest: We’re out of 2020.
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: yes.
      • CatQuest
        :P
      • can we uh. make it od that in stages?
      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: does that mean it's a really really bad idea because it will cause a huge ass mess?
      • ruaok
        yes.
      • CatQuest
        oh no
      • reosarevok
        Can the huge-ass mess be avoided in any way?
      • CatQuest
        :C
      • ruaok
        I *know* that we've told people to not assume that VA is one string or another.
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: yes.
      • ruaok
        but we know that people never follow our instructions.
      • CatQuest
        we could write a blogpost that we intend to do this,
      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: to which question? :D
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: yes.
      • CatQuest
        and saif "some date in 2021"
      • reosarevok
        yvanzo: ok :D
      • ruaok
        before this is done, someone needs to do complete test.
      • reosarevok
        This sounds like we could do it *but* once the indexing can cope
      • alastairp
        I tend to agree with ruaok here. there's technically correct, and then there's "break everyone's code"
      • reosarevok
        And if we fix the indexing to cope, then have 6 months notice at least
      • CatQuest
        yea. a notice
      • reosarevok
        Not that it would matter, since people only do something when their stuff breaks
      • reosarevok sighs at all the freedb emails
      • ruaok
        -100 from me.
      • Freso
        Mhm.
      • ruaok
        reosarevok: exactly.
      • yvanzo
        Plus, it might break some stuff client-side, even though "Picard allows you to enter your own string ..."
      • alastairp
        you can say "oh but we told you to never match against this" but that's not going to stop people from doing it, and then complaining when it stops working
      • CatQuest
        +101 for mme :P
      • ruaok
        alastairp: that.
      • reosarevok
        I can deal with the complaining, which would all come at me anyway
      • But the indexing is a bigger issue
      • CatQuest
        but since when do we let other peoples whteve rdictate mb data right or wrong?
      • yvanzo
        I'm okay with the idea of renaming it, but it really needs to be thoroughly checked beforehand.
      • reosarevok
        So there's a clear reason to postpone until then at least
      • CatQuest agrees with fixing the indexes first and testing
      • yvanzo: do we have a ticket for the indexing issue? If not, can you make one and link as a dependency of that ticket?
      • (and once that is fixed, we can then decide whether we actually want to make the change at all)
      • Btw, somewhat relatedly, what kind of changes to va would trigger such a thing? Only a rename?
      • Or are there other things I need to be wary of changing? :)
      • CatQuest
        :o
      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: There are a lot of localizable strings in server code too.
      • And tests using this string.
      • ruaok
        dont we have better things to do?
      • are we done?
      • Freso
        reosarevok?
      • CatQuest
        hmm
      • Freso
        I don’t know if reosarevok is writing something really long or if he disappeared. :|