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      • Lotheric
      • 2020-10-12 28603, 2020

      • Lotheric
        MetaBrainz is a non-profit right? :)
      • 2020-10-12 28636, 2020

      • ruaok
        yes.
      • 2020-10-12 28605, 2020

      • ruaok
        they sponsored our summit last year, but yet have to pay us.
      • 2020-10-12 28605, 2020

      • livingsilver94_ has quit
      • 2020-10-12 28629, 2020

      • livingsilver94 joined the channel
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      • alastairp
        hi ruaok, we spoke last week about a bunch of feedback stuff on troi and dataset hoster. any thoughts on how to make that feedback physical?
      • 2020-10-12 28637, 2020

      • alastairp
        I don't think we had any major show-stoppers, it might be easier if I do some PRs for code cleanups
      • 2020-10-12 28647, 2020

      • alastairp
        and as you said, good time to start adding tests
      • 2020-10-12 28605, 2020

      • ruaok
        the troi stuff is mostly in progress already.
      • 2020-10-12 28605, 2020

      • alastairp
        should we set jenkins up for it too while we're here?
      • 2020-10-12 28609, 2020

      • alastairp
        (should I) :)
      • 2020-10-12 28622, 2020

      • ruaok
        did we have concrete issues for the dataset hoster?
      • 2020-10-12 28625, 2020

      • ruaok
        and yes, lets.
      • 2020-10-12 28613, 2020

      • alastairp
        no, nothing major - just a few style checks I think
      • 2020-10-12 28639, 2020

      • ruaok
        I dont recall the details -- maybe open a ticket?
      • 2020-10-12 28642, 2020

      • alastairp
        perfect
      • 2020-10-12 28653, 2020

      • alastairp
        I'm at ISMIR this week, with a kind of weird time schedule to fit everything in. I'll be in and out for the next few days
      • 2020-10-12 28615, 2020

      • alastairp
        some super interesting stuff related to us already, including a full analysis of AB high-level features!
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • ruaok
        I've got troi running web, but I need more time to tie up lose ends tomorrow.
      • 2020-10-12 28622, 2020

      • alastairp
        will get some more information about this and report back
      • 2020-10-12 28658, 2020

      • ruaok
        oh, I'm really curious about the high level AB stuff. I'm mostly distrustful, so it would be good to get an expert opinon
      • 2020-10-12 28620, 2020

      • alastairp
        yeah, the results aren't good (for our data)
      • 2020-10-12 28643, 2020

      • alastairp
        some HL values seem to have very strong correlation with things like "version of ffmpeg", or "bitrate of mp3 file", which is a bit worrying
      • 2020-10-12 28616, 2020

      • v6lur has quit
      • 2020-10-12 28620, 2020

      • ruaok
        my fears exactly.
      • 2020-10-12 28633, 2020

      • ruaok
        but, knowing is half the battle, so we can correct the models.
      • 2020-10-12 28637, 2020

      • alastairp
        again, talking about being open with our stuff, this would be great information to add to our stats page
      • 2020-10-12 28602, 2020

      • alastairp
        I know the supervisor of the student who did this work, I'll send them a note to see if we can integrate that work into AB
      • 2020-10-12 28623, 2020

      • ruaok
        and have them send PRs to fix things, maybe?
      • 2020-10-12 28647, 2020

      • alastairp
        I'd like to get them to contribute code to automatically generate graphs, for sure
      • 2020-10-12 28610, 2020

      • alastairp
        fixing things: I suspect that's going to come down to building new models. but that's great, we have the new infrastructure for that
      • 2020-10-12 28633, 2020

      • alastairp
      • 2020-10-12 28600, 2020

      • alastairp
        live stream of the keynote talk happening today at the ISMIR conference
      • 2020-10-12 28609, 2020

      • alastairp
        Dr. Safiya Noble - Taking on Big Tech: New Paradigms for New Possibilities
      • 2020-10-12 28654, 2020

      • alastairp
        ruaok: when we last talked about CB in a meeting we decided to meet today and decide if our work towards it has been useful and if we should continue
      • 2020-10-12 28616, 2020

      • alastairp
        however in light of what we talked about during the summit, I think we've already make our minds up
      • 2020-10-12 28657, 2020

      • alastairp
        do you think that there's anything else that we should discuss about this topic today?
      • 2020-10-12 28606, 2020

      • ruaok
        No, agreed. Let's keep on with CB as discussed last week.
      • 2020-10-12 28649, 2020

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews
      • 2020-10-12 28633, 2020

      • Freso
        <BANG>
      • 2020-10-12 28633, 2020

      • Freso
        It’s World Sight Monday!
      • 2020-10-12 28633, 2020

      • Freso
      • 2020-10-12 28645, 2020

      • Freso
        And welcome "back" from summit etc. :)
      • 2020-10-12 28654, 2020

      • Freso
        I have received two mailed in reviews…
      • 2020-10-12 28611, 2020

      • Freso
        bitmap says…
      • 2020-10-12 28612, 2020

      • Freso
        """
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • Freso
        Last week I worked on MBS-10221 and MBS-11156.
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • Freso
        Converted our Selenium tests from their obsolete .html format into JSON5, to make writing those easier.
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • Freso
        Fixed up https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/… and documented our Flow setup in HACKING.md.
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • Freso
        Submitted https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/… to resolve longstanding bugs in our ISE pages.
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • Freso
        Worked on migrating to Webpack v5 to help with watch mode performance issues (at least on macOS).
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • Freso
        Also started working on MBS-11092. Should have a patch today or tomorrow.
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • Freso
        Other than that, did code review and resolved some load issues on yehudi related to sitemaps over the weekend.
      • 2020-10-12 28618, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-10221: Track Parser not filling in artists https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-10221
      • 2020-10-12 28618, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-11156: Track parser unsets "Various Artists" track artist credits https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-11156
      • 2020-10-12 28619, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-11092: Some issue with userscripts/plugins and beta site https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-11092
      • 2020-10-12 28621, 2020

      • Freso
        Fin.
      • 2020-10-12 28621, 2020

      • Freso
        """
      • 2020-10-12 28635, 2020

      • Freso
        Mr_Monkey says…
      • 2020-10-12 28637, 2020

      • Freso
        """
      • 2020-10-12 28646, 2020

      • Freso
        Hi everyone!
      • 2020-10-12 28646, 2020

      • Freso
        Last week was pretty productive; I investigated and fixed a couple of bugs with the relationship editor (BB-545, BB-546) and a few more related to edition group creation/selection in the edition editor (https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…)
      • 2020-10-12 28646, 2020

      • Freso
        These new features and bug fixes were deployed last week, with a follow-up deployment today.
      • 2020-10-12 28646, 2020

      • Freso
        Nothing but a quick mention of fixing ORG-45.
      • 2020-10-12 28646, 2020

      • Freso
        I’ve generated a report for works without an author to publish to the community, who is steadily fixing all of them. It’s really time to start having proper reports on the website.
      • 2020-10-12 28646, 2020

      • Freso
        And finally a bit of PR reviewing, some database cleanup and some forum discussions.
      • 2020-10-12 28647, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        BB-545: Relationships are not being deleted https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/BB-545
      • 2020-10-12 28647, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        BB-546: Not all editions are shown on a related work (sometimes) https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/BB-546
      • 2020-10-12 28648, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        ORG-45: Link to blog from BB repo and API docs https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/ORG-45
      • 2020-10-12 28648, 2020

      • Freso
        That’s it for me, back to Freso ! Take care everyone !
      • 2020-10-12 28653, 2020

      • Freso
        """
      • 2020-10-12 28615, 2020

      • Freso
        zas: Go!
      • 2020-10-12 28620, 2020

      • zas
        Hye
      • 2020-10-12 28637, 2020

      • zas
        usual supervision, upgrades, etc
      • 2020-10-12 28652, 2020

      • zas
        also working on releasing Picard this week, mainly code reviews
      • 2020-10-12 28628, 2020

      • zas
        plus upgraded jira server (to get more memory)
      • 2020-10-12 28606, 2020

      • zas
        not sure it was strictly needed though after yvanzo found out the issue wasn't really memory so we may downgrade to reduce costs
      • 2020-10-12 28609, 2020

      • Freso
        (Other people up: yvanzo, reosarevok, Freso, ruaok, alastairp, shivam-kapila, CatQuest, _lucifer, jmp_music – anyone else, please let me know ASAP. :))
      • 2020-10-12 28622, 2020

      • zas
        fin. yvanzo ?
      • 2020-10-12 28627, 2020

      • yvanzo
        Hi!
      • 2020-10-12 28638, 2020

      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] reosarevok merged pull request #1700 (master…MBS-11117-long_discids_report): MBS-11117: Create report for too long discIDs https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
      • 2020-10-12 28640, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-11117: Report for mediums with very long durations from discID https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-11117
      • 2020-10-12 28648, 2020

      • yvanzo
        Last week, I indeed upgraded MetaBrainz Tickets to the latest Jira LTS 8.13.
      • 2020-10-12 28601, 2020

      • yvanzo
        I also enabled SSO login with either MusicBrainz account or GitHub account.
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • yvanzo
        A few notes about that:
      • 2020-10-12 28620, 2020

      • reosarevok
        I guess it's not possible to transfer one's account to the MB one, or?
      • 2020-10-12 28651, 2020

      • yvanzo
        1. There is a small display bug that makes these options barely visible on the starting page for now, I reported it upstream already.
      • 2020-10-12 28600, 2020

      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: to "transfer"?
      • 2020-10-12 28604, 2020

      • CatQuest
        SSO login with either MusicBrainz
      • 2020-10-12 28604, 2020

      • CatQuest
        :O
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • yvanzo
        2. It compares account’s emails (which need to be public on GitHub).
      • 2020-10-12 28612, 2020

      • CatQuest
        so what obut us that hae both already
      • 2020-10-12 28615, 2020

      • yvanzo
        3. It intentionally creates a new account if email doesn’t match any.
      • 2020-10-12 28630, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Oh, so if your existing jira account shares the MB email you can log in with MB?
      • 2020-10-12 28636, 2020

      • yvanzo
        You can still use password, no problem.
      • 2020-10-12 28636, 2020

      • CatQuest
        hm
      • 2020-10-12 28624, 2020

      • yvanzo
        Motivations were to make it easier for newcomers (from either MB or GH) to report issues.
      • 2020-10-12 28653, 2020

      • CatQuest
        👏 good
      • 2020-10-12 28655, 2020

      • Freso
        👍
      • 2020-10-12 28655, 2020

      • reosarevok
        !m yvanzo
      • 2020-10-12 28655, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, yvanzo!
      • 2020-10-12 28600, 2020

      • yvanzo
        (Nothing really changes for existing users.)
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • yvanzo
        Before that I reviewed MBS PRs (beta upcoming today) and SEARCH PRs.
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • yvanzo
        I also added development setup for both MB Solr and SIR in MB Docker.
      • 2020-10-12 28654, 2020

      • yvanzo
        But that was after releasing a new version of MB Server (see blog), which was after a applying patches for bugs reported in beta, thanks to beta users btw!
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • yvanzo
        The week before, I mostly reviewed MBS PRs and updated https://beta.musicbrainz.org.
      • 2020-10-12 28622, 2020

      • yvanzo
        Also investigated a localization bug reported by mfmeulenbelt, fixed by bitmap.
      • 2020-10-12 28637, 2020

      • yvanzo
        Finito, go CatQuest!
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • CatQuest
        Meow! `😺`
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • CatQuest
        its been pretty hecktic this week
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • CatQuest
        did an actual instrument ticket! \o/
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • CatQuest
        uhh. still trying to gather my thoughts. u
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • CatQuest
      • 2020-10-12 28610, 2020

      • CatQuest
        fin, go
      • 2020-10-12 28616, 2020

      • CatQuest
        reosarevok
      • 2020-10-12 28627, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Hi!
      • 2020-10-12 28633, 2020

      • Freso
        (People still up: Freso, ruaok, alastairp, shivam-kapila, _lucifer, jmp_music – anyone else, please let me know ASAP. :))
      • 2020-10-12 28612, 2020

      • reosarevok
        I worked on MBS-11146 quite a bit
      • 2020-10-12 28612, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-11146: Add "Reviews" tab for CritiqueBrainz https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-11146
      • 2020-10-12 28640, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Which seems to be readyish, but let's see what the reviewers think - it's also waiting for a CB ticket to be implemented and released, ideally
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Also MBS-11163
      • 2020-10-12 28617, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-11163: Show type descriptions when editing entities https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-11163
      • 2020-10-12 28626, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Which might help people pick the right types for stuff more often? Maybe :)
      • 2020-10-12 28653, 2020

      • reosarevok
        And finally merged MBS-8725 again, hopefully without awful data eating bugs this time ....
      • 2020-10-12 28653, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-8725: Allow mediums to have an unknown tracklist https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-8725
      • 2020-10-12 28629, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Finally, I started running a bot to do MBBE (MusicBrainz Batch Editing) tasks, like setting stuff to HTTPS or setting closed website links as ended etc
      • 2020-10-12 28644, 2020

      • reosarevok
        (and I opened a bunch of small PRs, did some code review, the usual)
      • 2020-10-12 28601, 2020

      • reosarevok
        I've also been cleaning up Schumann, feel free to help ;p
      • 2020-10-12 28613, 2020

      • reosarevok
        30 pages down to 15 now, running out of easy bits :p
      • 2020-10-12 28620, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Freso: what about your week? :)
      • 2020-10-12 28629, 2020

      • Freso
        o/
      • 2020-10-12 28610, 2020

      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: yes (previous question)
      • 2020-10-12 28630, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Oh, neat! (sorry, Freso)
      • 2020-10-12 28623, 2020

      • Freso
        So still not much to show for my time. I looked into some reports and such, but haven’t taken any actions yet, even if there are some that I need to do something about somewhat urgently. I did run and stream the summit last weekend, which I felt went really well. I haven’t looked over the 11 hours of footage to check whether everything went perfectly, but AFAICT from the streaming side, there were no hiccups. 🙌
      • 2020-10-12 28618, 2020

      • Freso
        fin.
      • 2020-10-12 28623, 2020

      • Freso
        ruaok: Go!
      • 2020-10-12 28633, 2020

      • ruaok
        yo yo
      • 2020-10-12 28653, 2020

      • ruaok
        last week alastairp and I discussed and worked on troi and the dataset hoster stuff.
      • 2020-10-12 28614, 2020

      • ruaok
        I've implemented some of the things we talked about already and have the basics of troi in web working.
      • 2020-10-12 28603, 2020

      • ruaok
        and most interestingly enough, the first real recommendation feature is coming into focus now: I'm stealing pristine___'s Daily Delight (which is a take on Spotify Daily Mixes) and calling them Daily Jams.
      • 2020-10-12 28643, 2020

      • ruaok
        the daily jams are already fun to listen to and there two more improvements to make before I left everyone loose on playing with them. very promising.
      • 2020-10-12 28600, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        !m roaok
      • 2020-10-12 28600, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, roaok!
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • shivam-kapila
        !m ruaok
      • 2020-10-12 28608, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, ruaok!
      • 2020-10-12 28611, 2020

      • ruaok
        it also dovetails very nicely into the current discussions around recommendation feedback -- we will need that in order to improve these mixes.
      • 2020-10-12 28642, 2020

      • ruaok
        still, some filtering (e.g. Never play these artists) can be done in troi so that we have a workaround in the meantime.
      • 2020-10-12 28605, 2020

      • ruaok
        besides that I also did meb busywork and have more of that coming this week.
      • 2020-10-12 28632, 2020

      • ruaok
        all in all a pretty decent week and I'm looking for surfacing the first real bits of recommendation work.