#metabrainz

and I chatted with Mr_Monkey about how to fix our pesky listen pagingation problems.

and I hope we can also work to speed up listen page loading times on LB while we're mucking with things there on wednesday.

and the top similar users page which identifies spammers and sockepuppeteers should go live soon. then we can have more realistic user similarity values.

fin. bitmap ?

hi!

I mostly worked more on schema change tickets, fixing bugs, writing tests & starting to test migration a bit more

the pgtap tests for the materialized artist release / RG tables are taking a bit longer than I hoped, but the triggers for those aren't very simple, so I want to make sure the tests cover them well

(Only myself and yvanzo left on my list. Last call for anyone else who may want to give review!)

I also wrote a patch to increase the relationship page sizes on beta, rebased my relationship editor branch and made some bug fixes there

I'll be spending a bit more time on that this week to make sure the dialogs are usable for any possible GSoC project on the external links editor.

fin. yvanzo go!

hi!

Last week I reviewed GSoC draft proposals for MB posted on community forums by Cyna[m] and yyoung, thanks to them.

I worked on a schema change ticket too, and did usual MBS PR reviews and support.

Finito, go Freso!

o/

I spent some time looking at and dealing with some flagged forum posts and editor reports. Other than that, the usual lurking around.

fin!

one sec.

any idea when you can get around to looking at LB spammers? https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/LB-733

LB-733: Warn spammers & prepare to block accounts

And that’s everyone for reviews! (Maybe?)

Eh. After tomorrow.

I’ll write a note for Wed to look at it.

ok, I'd like see you make progress on this this week please.

we'll review next week, ok?

Sure.

thanks. onward.

Alright!

Thanks everyone who gave reviews!

We have two items on the agenda for today, so let’s move on to those. First off:

zas: FTP

well, recent browsers tend to drop FTP support

sad days

so, how should we serve files nowadays?

for what? our dumps?

for our main FTP

ok sorry

fortunately the main FTP site has an HTTP mirror (OSUOSL)

yes

so we need one for our setup, yes?

yes

Perhaps .torrent for large files?

we ran into this particularly for picard, where users trying the EU mirror failed to be able to download

I wonder if a bog standard nginx setup can actually do the job?

nginx can

lets solve one problem at a time, please.

adding torrent support is another problem entirely.

lets focus on FTP.

anyone know anything that is better than nginx for this purpose?

I like the torrent idea

(in addition?)

oh sorry

nginx is probably fine, and what "we" already know.

I suspect that an nginx container would be easy to setup -- we don't need a lot of navigation abilities.

I could do that

since we mostly link to the downloads from our web pages.

does nginx do automatic index generation?

yes

great

(Also, could be good to look at HTTPS in addition to HTTP, like https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/MusicBrainz/ has.)

zas: lets try that and see if it is sufficient.

Freso: thats automatic.

ok, I'll create an MBH ticket for it

great, thanks.

CatQuest: Don’t think anything is wrong per se (except no encryption), just that it is very rarely used nowadays.

thanks zas

zas: fin then? :)

yes ok for me

Alright! Last item on the agenda:

outsidecontext: Weblate

hi

web late or we blate

rdswift: the torrent made sense for MB VM images as they were available for a long time. that is not the case for most of our dumps that change weekly.

yvanzo: aaahhhh

Good point.

indeed

outsidecontext is taking a while

there had been some discussions about moving away from transifex in the last. after recent forum discussion at https://community.metabrainz.org/t/transifex-my... zas and I thought about trying weblate instead for Picard, to have a use case. If it turns out to be useful for us other MB projects could follow

Maybe his web is late

Oh, damn, went and messed it up halfway

you blated

CatQuest: weblate like translate https://weblate.org/de/

outsidecontext: whoo hooooo

:cross fingers & toes:

I put up some notes here: https://gist.github.com/phw/0b31e93179f19eada2c...

basically looking for a open source solution and better integration with git / github

+1

on the forums there were some concerns about the UI, which is kind of a matter of taste, though. personally I like weblate better in this regard also

is there a hosted version of weblate we can pay for?

I also (and that's saying something XD)

what we suggest here is to migrate Picard (and related stuff) to it first, but migrating others projects would make sense (so we can totally get rid of transifex)

the less we host the better.

yes

yes, for now only picard, then we could decide for more

I’m def a fan of eating more of the dog food we are proponents of. :)

ruaok: yes: https://weblate.org/en/hosting/

I'm a proponent of not overloading zas.

me too ;)

so you can remove all pro argument about self-hosting

ruaok: yes, hosted is possible. the guy developing this provides free hosting for open source projects, but also payed hosting. could be interesting if we want faster access (the open source server is sometimes a bit slow) and more customization

25 a momth is doable.

notbad.png

see if we can get by with 17.

but this is better than zas doing it.

momth? is that liek a your'moma joke?

:D

I think it would also be fair, given that MB is a rather large project

outsidecontext: which level of customization, does it include some of the potential self-hosted arguments?

and we also had this discussion a while back about contributing back to open source projects, so paying for it is nice

I approve of the this plan -- especially with starting with Picard.

25eur or $? a month is.. really not much

seems there is consensus around this.

Agreed

yvanzo: probably. I have only experience with self hosted and the open source hosted version. the latter does not allow you full access to the configuration

outsidecontext & zas: please proceed and let me know which account level to sign up for.

I think with the payed hosted this is different, so yes it does

*paid

ok, we'll plan this for upcoming 2.7 (outsidecontext ?)

:p

if this goes through I probably can start trasnalting again. whoooo

ok, I'll take a look at the paid offerings and what we might need

fin?

or, you know, translating

fin from my side :)

Alright!

I did try self-hosted weblate too

We used FLOSS-hosted weblate for MusicBottle too, way back in the day.

FWIW.

Anyway.

yvanzo: What would you like to discuss further?

I mean we technically have 20 mins left

go go yvanzo

what's left yvanzo ?

how will you handle shared resources between Picard and other MB projects?

what I like about weblate is not only the software, but also the development behind it. The guy managed to make this open source project a business, and he is very responsive.

I guess that’s one of the things this trial will try and figure out?

yvanzo: they'll stay on transifex for now

Transifex has now the ability to search for similar translated texts in other resources of the same project.

probably so does weblate?

it seemed liek that the time i tested it