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pbryan

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Good morning CatQuest.

hi

I want to run a couple of questions by you. 🙂

you caugt me just before i gt out so good!

post them!

OK, so...

1. https://books.google.ca/books?id=YaxrDla061QC

Each of these discourses should be a separate work, and I would use their title separately.

Where I'm caught-up is ordering, as it's much like a track list in a release in MB.

I found a JIRA ticket for an RFE to allow ordering, but it's a bit more than that.

It's the arrangement in books.

oh yea we don't really yet have arrangable rels

what i've done is add the works in the order they come

If I don't encode what book each of the work is in, that's essentially lost information.

we really need orderable rels

Yeah, your technique works when creating the edition... usually.

ok so you have to explain a bit, what mean "ordering in books" here?

BB has maybe a bug where adding a work, especially to an existing release, does not add it to the bottom.

assume i have no idea about this wspesific book

hm

frm work side or edition side?

but yea, that is showing of the limits of our model as of now :/

The "Books" were probably arbitrary by whomever compiled the anthology originally.

bug shub and or monkey >:D

oh

hm

so several books (editions) with various works attaced

So, it's pertinent to the edition, but not to the works, I think.

same as different antologies with many short stories. or things like "the collected works of x" type dealies

I don't think there's any reason to break Discourses into separate editions for each "Book", it's like Part I, II, etc. in an opera I would say.

i uh.. don't understand sorry, you have to explain what you mean from a "i have no idea" place :/

wait soo..

the "book" is parts?

Yes.

that sounds like "book" is a work too

works cn have "is a part of" work-work rels

Yes, I've used that a couple of times.

ok

But I don't see Book I, Book II as being determined by the author.

no, but the "arranger" would be then i suppose

It's probably by some ancient Roman who compiled Epictetus's discourses.

Broadly grouping them by what they thought was subject matter.

So, I can ignore books entirely when creating the works.

And I can "luck out" when I order them in an edition.

yea that ordering issue is not something i can help with yet, sorry :(

But unless I encode it in the work title, we would lose "which book" each work was in.

OK.

I mean, pr welcome and all that

well you can put ut in the annotation for now

Yeah, OK, I can think more about it. I think ordering in edition goes a long way.

OK.

indeed

So, other question, hopefully easier...

yay!

(i need to go out soon btw)

OK.

ok?

Untitled poems.

I'm going with the convention of using the first verse, in quotes with an ellipsis.

(scroll to near bottom you'll see many like that)

mhm.. my first knee yerk reaction is to like use [unofficial name] "first sentence" etc

yep, i'd keep that yes

"first line..." i say thats fine

OK.

Thanks!

no prob!

Byee! 🙂

hopefully i was a bit of help!

Yes, thanks.

Mostly some confirmation of sanity.

:)

those are good, and works both ways!

Thanks.

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