Hello Everyone👋 Myself Yash Pimple I am interested in working on BookBrainz📕 Looking forward to connecting and learning from you all.
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monkey
Hi and welcome YashP !
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pbryan
Hi YashP!
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pbryan
KassOtsimine, monkey: How would you deal with books that contain short stories (some possibly quite short) but were probably never published individually? Example: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/richmal-crompto….
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KassOtsimine
õh
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KassOtsimine
i got the example! look up neil gaiman!
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pbryan
Heh.
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pbryan
Are there any times where Gaiman's short stories get anthologized in other editions?
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pbryan
Like, that would make this an easy question to answer, I think.
Create a Work for each story, it doesn't matter in how many Editions it was pusblished in, I would say.
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kellnerd
In my opinion there's even value in having works for stories/novels where it is known that they were were written but never published.
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pbryan
OK. I *think* I'm mostly there. We don't make a work for each named chapter of a book.
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pbryan
So I'm trying to put my finger on what constitutes a work vs. an integral part of a work.
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kellnerd
Yes, chapters aren't really a work which stands on its own and are unlikely to be published separately. But for short stories you can imagine that it might happen. (My rule of thumb)
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pbryan
If a chapter were to be published in some other anthology (I've seen this) would you then call it out as a separate work, and link it to the greater work?
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pbryan
Not necessarily doing so for the other chapters...
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kellnerd
Depends on how they were presented. Do they stand on their own or are they just promoting the whole book? In the first case having a separate work might make sense, in the second case I would prefer to have a different relationship or an attribute "excerpt", similar to MusicBrainz "partial (recording of)".
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pbryan
Huh, OK.
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pbryan
Makes sense.
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pbryan
Thanks.
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KassOtsimine
oh yea. there are a few of his short stories thatwas inabnother compilation, and soem thrat had reworks as comics
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KassOtsimine
kellnerd> Yes, chapters aren't really a work which stands on its own and are unlikely to be published separately. But for short stories you can imagine that it might happen. (My rule of thumb)
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KassOtsimine
yes (but exeptionas are : small short storiues that was thne reworked to be a bigger part of a work. eg girl with al lthe gifts, and the grave yard book)
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KassOtsimine
both had parts that started out as short stories
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pbryan
Indeed, I've already entered a work that started out as a published short story then was expanded to a full novel.
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pbryan
Another question, illustrators. I see that works can be illustrated, so can editions. Any advice on where to attach illustrators? I'm tending to do so on editions.
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KassOtsimine
oh
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KassOtsimine
yes
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KassOtsimine
in general it is editions, yes. but it depends. liek a comicwould have the illustrator on the work
