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      • YashP
        Hello Everyone👋 Myself Yash Pimple I am interested in working on BookBrainz📕 Looking forward to connecting and learning from you all.
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        Hi and welcome YashP !
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        Hi YashP!
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      • KassOtsimine, monkey: How would you deal with books that contain short stories (some possibly quite short) but were probably never published individually? Example: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/richmal-cromp....
      • KassOtsimine
        õh
      • i got the example! look up neil gaiman!
      • pbryan
        Heh.
      • Are there any times where Gaiman's short stories get anthologized in other editions?
      • Like, that would make this an easy question to answer, I think.
      • OK, found one
      • kellnerd
        Create a Work for each story, it doesn't matter in how many Editions it was pusblished in, I would say.
      • In my opinion there's even value in having works for stories/novels where it is known that they were were written but never published.
      • pbryan
        OK. I *think* I'm mostly there. We don't make a work for each named chapter of a book.
      • So I'm trying to put my finger on what constitutes a work vs. an integral part of a work.
      • kellnerd
        Yes, chapters aren't really a work which stands on its own and are unlikely to be published separately. But for short stories you can imagine that it might happen. (My rule of thumb)
      • pbryan
        If a chapter were to be published in some other anthology (I've seen this) would you then call it out as a separate work, and link it to the greater work?
      • Not necessarily doing so for the other chapters...
      • kellnerd
        Depends on how they were presented. Do they stand on their own or are they just promoting the whole book? In the first case having a separate work might make sense, in the second case I would prefer to have a different relationship or an attribute "excerpt", similar to MusicBrainz "partial (recording of)".
      • pbryan
        Huh, OK.
      • Makes sense.
      • Thanks.
      • KassOtsimine
        oh yea. there are a few of his short stories thatwas inabnother compilation, and soem thrat had reworks as comics
      • kellnerd> Yes, chapters aren't really a work which stands on its own and are unlikely to be published separately. But for short stories you can imagine that it might happen. (My rule of thumb)
      • yes (but exeptionas are : small short storiues that was thne reworked to be a bigger part of a work. eg girl with al lthe gifts, and the grave yard book)
      • both had parts that started out as short stories
      • pbryan
        Indeed, I've already entered a work that started out as a published short story then was expanded to a full novel.
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      • Another question, illustrators. I see that works can be illustrated, so can editions. Any advice on where to attach illustrators? I'm tending to do so on editions.
      • KassOtsimine
        oh
      • yes
      • in general it is editions, yes. but it depends. liek a comicwould have the illustrator on the work
      • since a comic adaption would be it's own work
      • pbryan
        Ah, OK. Makes sense. :-)
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