monika_.19: Sorry, just seeing the message now. Did you run into any issues while doing the database setup?
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monkey[m]
If you already had a database set up, you might need to run migration scripts, in this case specifically `sql/migrations/2024-02-07-credit-section/up.sql`
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muxxerexe[m]
Are visual novels consdierable for BBz?
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muxxerexe[m]
s/consdierable/considerable/
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monkey[m]
If you have psql the postgres utility installed on your computer, run psql -h localhost -d bookbrainz -U bookbrainz -f sql/migrations/2024-02-07-credit-section/up.sql
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muxxerexe[m]
I mean, the only difference between a visual novel and an ebook or an illustrated book is that they are semi-interactive
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monkey[m]
Followed by psql -h localhost -d bookbrainz -U bookbrainz -f sql/scripts/create_triggers.sql
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muxxerexe[m]
* and an audio ebook or
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monkey[m]
muxxer.exe: IMHO yes they have their place there, specifically because usually the content is delivered through text or accompanied with text.
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monkey[m]
Not sure if it fits into one of the existing categories
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monkey[m]
(for the edition format)
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monkey[m]
I feel like none of these fit perfectly
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reosarevok[m]
Is Disco Elysium a book?
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monkey[m]
Don't know it. Is the story delivered through text?
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reosarevok[m]
I mean, it has more text than many books
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reosarevok[m]
Plenty of VNs in my experience have you walk and whatnot, what's the limit? :)
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reosarevok[m]
I guess if it's one of those "it's static images but you get to click to choose your own adventure" then that's just a digital choose your own adventure book 😅
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reosarevok[m]
Where the limit is seems complex
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monkey[m]
Indeed
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muxxerexe[m]
reosarevok, do they?
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reosarevok[m]
Well, stuff people call VNs, anyway
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muxxerexe[m]
I mean, the majority of VNs are simply like:... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/OPyLYUuJLLZxwxJSPQyOKwJB>)
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reosarevok[m]
Maybe there's different definitions in the VN community vs the wider games community
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muxxerexe[m]
As in, merely a background, sprites of characters and then the text, and in some cases maybe some videos and voice acting
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muxxerexe[m]
But, in general, "VN" refers to games which have most or the entirety of their gameplay based around merely text.
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reosarevok[m]
The kinds where there's no "gameplay" other than clicking seem to fit, I guess - so does Zork :)
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muxxerexe[m]
Clannad, for instance, is an example of a regular visual novel.
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muxxerexe[m]
Some games, say the one I'm playing now: Snowbreak, are a mix.
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muxxerexe[m]
The story is provided through visual novel scenes, but the gameplay is that of a shooter.
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reosarevok[m]
Of course, it'd be a lot better to have GameBrainz 😅 but
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muxxerexe[m]
as for the format, "eBook" would be the closest from the list, but I don't think Visual Novels could so much be considered as editions as they should be considered works.
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muxxerexe[m]
Well, I have proposed it and I have modelled a database for a GamesBrainz project
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muxxerexe[m]
In fact, I *have* in mind to start the project sometime later, but given my experience on website design is rather basic and doesn't extend beyond regular CRUD stuff, I don't see myself developing a decent site without some extra help.
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muxxerexe[m]
But a lot of people are probably not too interested; big project, lots of work, and some just don't care because there already exist other databases for videogames, although I personally think they're shit.
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muxxerexe[m]
Best vidya database I know is VNDB, since it's very extensive and well-kept.
2024-10-30 30451, 2024
muxxerexe[m]
In any case, going back to the original topic: I imagine visual novel scripts can be considered valid works for BookBrainz, I suppose?
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monkey[m]
IMO yes, but if you want a broader consensus you can open a forum post and ask the wider community
