If I want to create a new release and there is already a Digital Media for my CD release, should I add it to the existing Release Group or create a new one?
2021-08-27 23937, 2021
freijon
I'll create a new one and if you say it should be the same I can still merge it (I remember it's easier to merge than to un-merge)
2021-08-27 23938, 2021
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derwin
hi
2021-08-27 23934, 2021
derwin
in general the same release (same tracklist etc.) but different media should be in the same release group
2021-08-27 23937, 2021
derwin
what is the release?
2021-08-27 23959, 2021
derwin
also, thank you for staying long enough for me to reply, a lot of people come in, ask their question, and leave before there's a chance for anyone to reply.
But when attaching the CD TOC I noticed differences in the track lengths
2021-08-27 23915, 2021
freijon
In the meanwhile I have another question. It seems Artists can be multi-lingual in the sense that when I search for the German name it shows me the original (French) name. In the Digital Release has the German term whereas I am only able to pick the original term. How can I pick the German one?
2021-08-27 23946, 2021
freijon
nvm. the Digital Release changed the "as credited" field to the German term. I'll do the same.
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derwin
freijon: a few notes
2021-08-27 23948, 2021
derwin
2) track duration differences of a second between CD and digital release doesn't suggest to me that they're different releases or recordings
2021-08-27 23902, 2021
derwin
(or two, or three)
2021-08-27 23936, 2021
derwin
I would consider those two releases to belong in the same release group
2021-08-27 23954, 2021
aerozol
Release groups are meant exactly to group stuff like that :) So that you can find all the versions of an album grouped together.
2021-08-27 23912, 2021
aerozol
Including different formats, bonus track editions, remasters, etc
2021-08-27 23932, 2021
aerozol
Great addition anyway, I'll put in an edit to merge the two
2021-08-27 23955, 2021
derwin
do the smurf for what it's worth
2021-08-27 23903, 2021
freijon
derwin: thank you, I'll remove the annotation. I assumed the annotation is intended for texts like these
" You should never add copyrighted content copied from other resources, be they online or printed. More generally, you really shouldn't copy/paste any kind of content, unless it's purely factual. "
2021-08-27 23944, 2021
derwin
in case you're looking for the reference
2021-08-27 23908, 2021
freijon
OK, thank you for pointing me to the wiki
2021-08-27 23927, 2021
freijon
I now started the merge process for the two release groups
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freijon[m]
if I attach a CD TOC to an existing release, should I also correct the track lengths?
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aerozol
If there isn't already a TOC and you have the CD in hand then yes please! You are the A++ most excellent data source in that case.
2021-08-27 23941, 2021
freijon[m]
that's also what I assumed. The durations differ up to 8 seconds but I have the physical CD, the barcode is the same and it's an existing CD release without disc IDs
2021-08-27 23948, 2021
aerozol
Even if it's just from a rip log it's almost certainly better than what's there tbh
2021-08-27 23944, 2021
aerozol
Nice! Usually in that case track times are copied from a digital release, from an online source, or typed in off the packaging, and in all of those cases your TOC is definitely better
2021-08-27 23911, 2021
freijon[m]
great, thanks :)
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derwin
I wonder what a report on the variance of track lengths for otherwise-identical releases (track titles, order) would say the average variance is in terms of seconds. Probably between 1 and 2 seconds?
2021-08-27 23912, 2021
derwin
or 0 and 1..
2021-08-27 23926, 2021
derwin
because probably most releases have identical track lengths.
2021-08-27 23912, 2021
derwin
I wonder what the variance would be if the corpus excluded exact matches? iow "for those which differ, what is the average variance?" I would think *that* would be between 1 and 2, because most would differ by 1.
