it's not fair tho that they could do their edit without me getting a chance to vote, and now I have to prove that my first version was correct
2021-09-25 26819, 2021
dominikh
I'm inclined to side with accurate lengths over poorly rounded and cargo-culted ones
2021-09-25 26820, 2021
Erin
wait
2021-09-25 26829, 2021
Erin
if you go to his original edit
2021-09-25 26834, 2021
Erin
he links apple, deezer, and spotify
2021-09-25 26840, 2021
Erin
they all show 16, 23, 22, 14
2021-09-25 26847, 2021
Erin
which he is getting rid of
2021-09-25 26812, 2021
derwin
Erin: as a brief piece of chat meta, my personal opinion is that your line lengths could be a little bit longer, to avoid scrolling chat as much. especially with single word lines like "wait" :)
2021-09-25 26832, 2021
King_DuckZ
lol
2021-09-25 26841, 2021
derwin
King_DuckZ: ;P
2021-09-25 26801, 2021
Erin
looking at the other link he has that includes the decimals
2021-09-25 26836, 2021
Erin
..... i just cant find anything in this to support his conclusions
2021-09-25 26854, 2021
Erin
he's basically saying he would like to apply his own rounding preferences instead of the one literally /everyone/ uses
well I'd appreciate if you guys could jump in and vote, at least to break the tie otherwise it's my opinion vs his
2021-09-25 26858, 2021
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2021-09-25 26859, 2021
dominikh
yeah I don't get it. Track 1 in iTunes is 256050 ms. how does that round to 4:17?
2021-09-25 26837, 2021
Erin
technically, 00-49 round down, and 50-99 round up
2021-09-25 26853, 2021
Erin
but thats only rounding, not just some kind of "all things must follow this rule"
2021-09-25 26817, 2021
dominikh
even so, 256050 ms is 4 minutes and 16.05s. that doesn't round to 4:17 :P
2021-09-25 26832, 2021
Erin
realistically, there's nothing out there that says mathematical rounding is preferable over truncation, or something like that, or that we somehow prefer to disagree with published versions
2021-09-25 26857, 2021
Erin
so what this other guy is doing essentially is just saying his preference for how the fraction is resolved is greater thant he value of matching publication, which is .... false
IIRC both musicbrainz importing from existing data, and Picard, round instead of truncate
2021-09-25 26846, 2021
King_DuckZ
well if he's right then he's right, just in all releases I made based on mora.jp I copy-pasted the info from there, and I'm not going to check the millisecond duration and doing rounding by hand on each track (I don't even have the files, sometimes). I think it's best to keep the published length, picard is able to tell that 1 second difference doesn't matter anyways
2021-09-25 26804, 2021
King_DuckZ
but if you all agree then I'm fine with dropping this edit
2021-09-25 26836, 2021
dominikh
well apparently we're not all agreeing :P
2021-09-25 26848, 2021
dominikh
does Picard ignore a 1s difference, or does it round?
2021-09-25 26833, 2021
King_DuckZ
that I noticed, every time length is off by 1 it's not marked in orange