#musicbrainz

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      • aerozol
        Still stuck on how to link 'themes' or 'leitmotif's' that appear on multiple songs. Any classical pros want to have a peek I'd be grateful :)
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      • aerozol
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      • CatQuest
        ah
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      • CatQuest
        i had an old idea for that actualy. a new work-work relationship: "contains compositional elements from"
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      • CatQuest
        i had in mind more for popular music than classical, but
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah - right now all we have is "based on"
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      • CatQuest
        popular music borrow compositional bits from classical
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      • CatQuest
        tink only of the many many many that have bits of bethovens 5th for exampke
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      • reosarevok
        Classical does that from classical very often too :)
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      • CatQuest
        hah
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      • CatQuest
        actually that'd be interesting information
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      • CatQuest
        what do you think of my idea reo?
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      • reosarevok
        For stuff like "variations on piece X" I've always used "based on", but for stuff like "this contains a brief quotation of Beethoven's Emperor piano concerto" we have nothing rn
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      • CatQuest
        yea!
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      • reosarevok
        There's probably a ticket for something like this already, and it probably makes sense
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      • reosarevok
        We just need to word it clearly so that people won't use it stupidly, but I'm not against the idea
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      • CatQuest
        I had never made a ticket for "contains compositional elements" (ir "contaisn a brief quotation") becasue my idea was back in the dakr ages of style
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      • CatQuest
        hench why "compositional elements". I like the "brief quote too"
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      • CatQuest
        eh. "brieft quote" too
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      • reosarevok
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      • BrainzBot
        STYLE-348: Add relationship: Musical Quotation/Reference
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      • reosarevok
        aerozol: is that kinda your use case too? ^
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      • CatQuest
        i' say for melody, but i thikn the lyrics one is a different egg
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      • reosarevok
        IIRC there's a second ticket to have a separate rel for lyrics :)
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      • reosarevok
        So yeah, they could be separate
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      • CatQuest
        yes. they need to be separ.. yes
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      • CatQuest
        yea my "compositional elements" isn't even linked in the wikipage
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      • CatQuest
        !m reo
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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, reo!
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      • Erin
        thats an interesting idea for sure
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      • Erin
        cause it doesnt just apply to classical music
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      • Erin
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      • Erin
        i think these two songs would use the same relationship, if it existed
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      • derwin
        what is the difference between a "quotation" and an "interpolation"?
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      • CatQuest
        well. they're basically the same oncept, I'd say :D
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      • CatQuest
        concept even
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      • reosarevok
        Releasing prod, forgot to say :)
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      • aerozol
        Oh yeah, that would do the trick! I guess I assumed this kind of thing would already be used as it seems like something that would be used throughout parts of symphonies etc. But I guess it's probably so 'obvious' that symphony parts would include similar motifs that it's redundant there.
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      • aerozol
        Not sure about the terminology re. 'quote' but that's what I would use. CatQuest nailed it too
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      • aerozol
        But this convo is already helpful, I will link this stuff via 'based on' for now. Some of the Halo tracks have little pieces of a few other tracks in there (like 3) but I think it will be fine
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      • antlarr
        hi, if an artist releases a song (just a track that is not part of an album) in youtube and bandcamp, should that be added as a single to musicbrainz? or as a standalone recording?
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      • reosarevok
        Bandcamp usually means single IMO, but
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      • reosarevok
        link?
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      • antlarr
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      • reosarevok
        Oh, yes, even a specific cover art and whatnot
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      • reosarevok
        100% single I'd say
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      • antlarr
        perfect, thanks!
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      • antlarr
        ah, I looked for the track name and found many recordings but not this one. It was a good idea to check the artist first, since it was already in the database
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      • Erin
        if they wanted to be good trolls, they'd make that a song, and use that as their artist name, and publish it
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      • Erin
        then it _would_ make sense to have XD
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