Hi all: I've uploaded data for a CD with Christmas music and credits two performers, but not any composers. But I entered the composer name in the "Artist" field. How can I add credits for the performers, and indicate that "Artist" is actually the composer?
2022-12-12 34607, 2022
bobjonkman
...and how should I have done this correctly in the first place?
2022-12-12 34656, 2022
bobjonkman
Also, the two performer entries I created were deleted by ModBot, before I had the chance to add them to the recordings... Annoying...
I did read the fine manual (wiki), but it has not cleared things up for me
2022-12-12 34618, 2022
rdswift
bobjonkman, the performers should be listed as the artists on the tracks (unless it is classical music), and then the tracks should be linked to the appropriate works using the relationship editor. Because all of these are well known works, I expect thatthe composers should already be attached to the works.
2022-12-12 34630, 2022
bobjonkman
thx rdswift. Because many tracks are traditional/old/well-known I thought this was more like classical music than modern pop. I'll re-edit the CD to put the performer in as "Artist".
2022-12-12 34613, 2022
bobjonkman
All in all, I find the term "Artist" somewhat ambiguous. I'd much rather have explicit fields like "Performer", "Composer", "Arranger", &c.
2022-12-12 34659, 2022
rdswift
Those are actually identifed as relationships on the tracks (but not composer, which is attached to the work).
2022-12-12 34629, 2022
rdswift
i'll add the work for the first track so you can see what I mean.
2022-12-12 34635, 2022
rdswift
Sorry, I guess arranger is also attached to the work.
2022-12-12 34638, 2022
bobjonkman
I'll get the hang of it eventually. I'm the self-appointed librarian for a community radio station, so I understand the importance of getting things right (and even more importantly, being consistent!)
2022-12-12 34652, 2022
rdswift
Think of "artist" as a sort of generic term for the person or group doing the work, and the relationship specifies their role with respect to the entity.
2022-12-12 34658, 2022
rdswift
The entities are things like "Albums / Releases", "Tracks", "Recordings" and "Works".
2022-12-12 34659, 2022
rdswift
When entering things like performer relationships against a track, you can specify many different types of roles from things like "Recording Engineer" to "Mixer" to "Producer", and even what instruments a performer played on a track.
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bobjonkman
Bumper sticker: "Oh no, not another learning opportunity!"
<bobjonkman> Bumper sticker: "Oh no, not another learning opportunity!" Yup. ;-)
2022-12-12 34607, 2022
rdswift
The system is pretty powerful and thus a bit complicated, but once you work with it a while before long it actually begins to make sense.
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Lotheric
aerozol, what is the link to the unofficial discord server ?
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Lotheric
nm found the link in the forum
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CatQuest
idislike that this excists fwiw
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CatQuest
well it's not bad it *excists*
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CatQuest
but important edit discussion should NOT take place tere
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reosarevok
I mean, I get it - Discord is a lot more understandable for younger people than IRC :p
2022-12-12 34630, 2022
reosarevok
As long as edit notes are added for stuff, then it's fine
2022-12-12 34602, 2022
Lotheric
I prefer IRC, but apparently there is an album of the week thing going on there and I'm curious to listen
2022-12-12 34623, 2022
Lotheric
in fact, I dislike Discord heh
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reosarevok
I did say *younger* people
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reosarevok hides
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Lotheric
Let's sahre a BBS node...
2022-12-12 34641, 2022
Lotheric is 48!
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Lotheric
teehee
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Lotheric
hrm
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Lotheric
"Titled Bad MFs, the 14-track project is exclusively available through the Metaverse for a limited time"
2022-12-12 34617, 2022
Lotheric
do we have a [metaverse] area ?
2022-12-12 34622, 2022
Lotheric
^_____^
2022-12-12 34604, 2022
Lotheric
Mt. Westmore — the rap supergroup comprised of West Coast legends Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, Too $hort and E-40 — has released its debut album via blockchain-based platform Gala Music.
2022-12-12 34649, 2022
Lotheric
I guess it's a 'store'
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reosarevok
That's just digital, but wannabe fancy :p
2022-12-12 34613, 2022
Lotheric
I have an extension (userscript) to play a MB release on ListenBrainz.. how does that work exactly ? releases are matched to youtube by track names ?
2022-12-12 34638, 2022
Lotheric
I'm listening to an explicit version but LB is pushing me clean versions :p
2022-12-12 34620, 2022
Lotheric
Is there something I can do to fix the match ?
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aerozol
Lotheric: I would ask lucifer in #metabrainz, but tbh that kind of matching seems impossible to get perfect :S
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aerozol
(Which means lucifer could probably still do it :p)